The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Nothings wrong with him. Had a nice performance this year. Takes 2 sides to make a deal so who knows if he's back. Buffalo also kept 3 RBs this year. So even if Johnson's back there's room. I don't expect Murray back. Evans is a JAG. And Hines is coming off major injury. Hines might get the returnman occasion used in offense Harry role next year. Yet still need a #2 RB with size behind Cook. AJ Dillon was rumored to be I. Our sights last off-season and could be a cheap add or could see drafting a guy like Isaiah Davis late (round 5). 3 minutes ago, appoo said: I’d rather have Gabe over any of those guys. He’s pretty underrated right now because of the struggles of the Bills WRs in general, and because he’s a specialist. Thing is he’s got the tools to be a top 5 downfield WR. It’s not a speed thing. It’s body control, eyes, hands and instinct. But all of that means the Bills probably can’t afford him. I agree. Noah Brown to me under the radar and he did well in Houston last year when asked to step in after a breakout year in 2022 with Dallas. To me he's an ideal Davis replacement as can be a #2-4 type and has similar traits to Davis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 hours ago, babulator said: We need someone that can stretch the field and make room underneath for Diggs, Kincaid and Shakir. If cook could spend some time with the Juggs machine, that wouldn't hurt either. Bills recognized this with the Harty 3 yr signing, he obviously wasn't what we expected but it seems like they realized this is an issue and should address it with a player(s) with higher upside. Harty fooled me, I thought he'd be the next John Brown.. It already shows with the Hamler future signing, Beane is focused on upgrading the speed on O 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Hines might get the returnman occasion used in offense Harry role next year. Yet still need a #2 RB with size behind Cook. AJ Dillon was rumored to be I. Our sights last off-season and could be a cheap add or could see drafting a guy like Isaiah Davis late (round 5). Hines can end up anywhere from RB2/KR to camp casualty depending on how he heals Typically a RB coming off an ACL isn't ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: Hines can end up anywhere from RB2/KR to camp casualty depending on how he heals Typically a RB coming off an ACL isn't ideal. CMC says hello lol but I'd argue RB is one of the easiest positions to come back from an ACL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Hines can end up anywhere from RB2/KR to camp casualty depending on how he heals Typically a RB coming off an ACL isn't ideal. To me you get a bigger body at RB2 and seems to be MCBeane's MO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Bills recognized this with the Harty 3 yr signing, he obviously wasn't what we expected but it seems like they realized this is an issue and should address it with a player(s) with higher upside. Harty fooled me, I thought he'd be the next John Brown.. It already shows with the Hamler future signing, Beane is focused on upgrading the speed on O Or at least be a better McKenzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Or at least be a better McKenzie. They had that with Shakir, Harty was more an outside speedster , McKittrick was a slot guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: They had that with Shakir, Harty was more an outside speedster , McKittrick was a slot guy No McKenzie was our speed/gadget guy 4th WR. We wanted him to be more when honestly he wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: No McKenzie was our speed/gadget guy 4th WR. We wanted him to be more when honestly he wasn't. Think they got pretty good value out of him considering he was a 5th round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, appoo said: Think they got pretty good value out of him considering he was a 5th round pick He was what he was. We just haven't found a suitable Beasley replacement. I know Kincaid can be but we need it in WR form too for our offense to truly be elite again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: He was what he was. We just haven't found a suitable Beasley replacement. I know Kincaid can be but we need it in WR form too for our offense to truly be elite again. Do what I said above - resign Davis, draft a deep threat in R1, and you have both Diggs and Shakir along with Kincaid running those routes Beasley was running and that’s a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, appoo said: Do what I said above - resign Davis, draft a deep threat in R1, and you have both Diggs and Shakir along with Kincaid running those routes Beasley was running and that’s a win Davis is going to be too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 42 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Can't afford to read the article. Check my earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said: Non paywall version, but doesn't show the videos:https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/KZ8dqS If you punch the direct link from the Athletic into 12ft.io, you can see the whole thing. Thanks for posting that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I still have some hope with Justin Shorter 6’4 big body let’s see him catch some of Josh’s passes this next preseason. Hopefully he is a surprise like Shakir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Davis is going to be too expensive. Not if you extend him out 5-6 years and stack his back end years, and give him a really solid signing bonus. You can absolutely fit him in the cap for like 6-8M hit this upcoming season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 14 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Many of us have asked "what is HIS offense" I found an article on the Atlantic that breaks down what Joe's concepts are for his offense. I like how there are option routes underneath which we have been lacking and Kurt Warner even said was missing from our offense. From what all I have read on various articles, Joe's offense needs speed. Diggs still has enough, Shakir has plenty, but we need another really good WR to compete for a top slot, and better depth. Kincaid should thrive in this offense.https://theathletic.com/1606403/2020/02/20/teds-film-room-core-concepts-from-lsu-that-oc-joe-brady-may-use-in-carolina/ The Atlantic? I didn't know they did sports reporting 4 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Davis is going to be too expensive. I don't think that's a given. Certainly very possible, though. If his stats hadn't dropped this year, probably. But I think there is a much wider range of possible outcomes here than people are predicting. The question is how much of his statistical and productive drop is on him in not getting open and how much on the offense for using him as a clear-out guy, a blocker or a 3rd or 4th look on plays. Edited January 31 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Gunner….And what pieces (plural) would those be? Josh has everything he needs with the exception of a WR2 and the possible resigning of his RB2. His OLine, TE, WR1, Slot WR, and RB1 are all cast in stone for 2024. . Well at the moment the only WRs under contract are Diggs, Shakir and Shorter. Not sure Shorter is going to amount to much so it is about making sure not just that they find an impactful guy early in the draft but that they also find depth guys with a bit of dynamism who can have roles on the team and be used in certain packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: To those judging Brady on this year, we haven't seen his real offense yet. He was managing Dorsey's playbook. Im looking forward to seeing what he comes up with his own offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Yes we do. But I pray to God we don’t go after some speed dude with concrete for hands! Remember back a few seasons ago when we had the worst receiver room in the league, and Beane and McDermott went into the next draft repeatedly saying that they wanted receivers that had good hands and speed as a priority…, we need this as a priority again. What we need is (“fast boundary receivers that can run a whole route tree, with great separation skills and glue for hands”) 🤞. We essentially have been running one guy (Diggs) into double teams and two high sets, without a #2 wr that can draw away coverage on a regular basis, this needs to be a priority fix. Don’t care how they do it as long as they are successful implementing it . It will be interesting to see what Joe Brady’s offense develops into with a better # 1b / #2 option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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