Tiberius Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: The world has certainly become a more violent place during the Biden presidency. Very sad. That's true, good thing leadership was there to do something about it. What's next if Trump captures the presidency, bye bye Taiwan? China took Hong Kong on Trump's watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's true, good thing leadership was there to do something about it. What fires have been put out. its only gotten worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's true, good thing leadership was there to do something about it. What's next if Trump captures the presidency, bye bye Taiwan? China took Hong Kong on Trump's watch So many innocent people have died on Biden’s watch. Very sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, JDHillFan said: So many innocent people have died on Biden’s watch. Very sad. Yes, but at least he isn't a surrender monkey like Trump 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, but at least he isn't a surrender monkey like Trump you all were saying the very opposite when we dropped the Moab on the Taliban, or took out the Iranian terrorist at the Bagdad airport? It was all "He is a war criminal", "Congress didn't authorize", it will "escalate the theatre." that was only a few years ago. what changed Edited February 7 by Tommy Callahan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, you are totally wrong. Ukraine is not a dust up. The invasion of Ukraine was the biggest war in Europe since WW2, you know, the war that happened in part because Hitler was appeased The appeasement argument is an academic exercise. You can't know that any action you take today will produce a positive result of stopping the next Hitler (i.e. Putin) and keeping Europe free or negative result leading to a worse scenario such as escalation to nuclear war that destroys all life on Earth. My view is pretty simple. You don't need to fight or win every battle, especially in situations where your direct interests are not threatened, to win the war. But that's what people supporting and advocating the interventionist model believe. Over time its a losing strategy that leaves you unprepared for the fight when the threats are more extreme. The wisdom in Washington is equivalent to a tennis player thinking they need to win every point of every game to win the match. Both are dumb strategies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The appeasement argument is an academic exercise. Y No it isn't. Not supplying weapons threatened with aggression is appeasement. A free nation is in need, you guys are abandoning it for the whims of a real POS in Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No it isn't. Not supplying weapons threatened with aggression is appeasement. A free nation is in need, you guys are abandoning it for the whims of a real POS in Trump Eliminating all political opposition = free? How?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Eliminating all political opposition = free? How?? What’s our resident Trump voter crying about now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 26 minutes ago, BillStime said: What’s our resident Trump voter crying about now? You are a waste of key strokes. Can you answer the question? Of course you can't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: What's next if Trump captures the presidency, bye bye Taiwan? China took Hong Kong on Trump's watch What? The turnover of Hong Kong from British to Chinese control occurred in 1997. What are you suggesting, that the US should have gone to war over this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, sherpa said: What? The turnover of Hong Kong from British to Chinese control occurred in 1997. What are you suggesting, that the US should have gone to war over this? No, the smothering of freedom that Trump barely even took notice of. Taiwan next if Trump take office? You actually support this POS Trump? Biden is way more in line with the foreign policy you profess to follow. Biden is like Reagan, Trump is like Chamberlain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 43 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, the smothering of freedom that Trump barely even took notice of. Taiwan next if Trump take office? You actually support this POS Trump? So now you seem to forget that the agreement was between the UK and China in 1997, and instead state that Trump barely took notice of it. This makes sense to you? Further, for about the one billionth time, (your recall and cognitive abilities are rivalled by the guy who can't remember Hamas, who is alive and who is dead, where is son died, that Mitterrand was French and not German, that his railroad stories are utter nonsense, how to get on/off a stage, can no longer read a teleprompter.....I could go on), I have never supported Trump. This seems beyond your capability to understand, but someone can be embarrassed and ashamed of Biden, yet not support Trump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, sherpa said: So now you seem to forget that the agreement was between the UK and China in 1997, and instead state that Trump barely took notice of it. This makes sense to you? Further, for about the one billionth time, (your recall and cognitive abilities are rivalled by the guy who can't remember Hamas, who is alive and who is dead, where is son died, that Mitterrand was French and not German, that his railroad stories are utter nonsense, how to get on/off a stage, can no longer read a teleprompter.....I could go on), I have never supported Trump. This seems beyond your capability to understand, but someone can be embarrassed and ashamed of Biden, yet not support Trump. F the agreement, they stomp out their freedoms. No biggie, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: F the agreement, they stomp out their freedoms. No biggie, huh? How much lead did u eat as a child? Do u interact with people like this face to face? How fun that must be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: You guys have gone 180 from where the DEMS used to be as far as foreign policy. Just constant war mongering and attacking any sane response with vitriol. You have to forgive them. They only care about Ukraine and believe it is so important because their corrupt leader's idiot son was on the Board of one of their corrupt companies. 5 hours ago, JDHillFan said: The world has certainly become a more violent place during the Biden presidency. Very sad. Not surprising when you have a weak leader. 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: That's true, good thing leadership was there to do something about it. What's next if Trump captures the presidency, bye bye Taiwan? China took Hong Kong on Trump's watch Nice job with the facts. And Joke said he doesn't support an independent Taiwan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Doc said: Nice job with the facts. And Joke said he doesn't support an independent Taiwan. Diplomatic niceties, but weapons are flowing to defend the island with Biden's blessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Diplomatic niceties, but weapons are flowing to defend the island with Biden's blessing Oh, it's "diplomatic niceties." Great euphemism for sucking up to dictators... Anyway, it will be as futile as Ukraine. Taiwan is not a member of NATO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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