juno999 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/31/2023 at 9:01 PM, Einstein said: Josh missed a couple guys today, but overall, everyone was blanketed. It was sad to see. Just zero separation as far as the eye could see. A barren landscape with skin-and-bones antelope running without food in sight. At least 3 drops - Sherfield, Cook, and Murray. Diggs was open on one overthrow. Threw behind Knox but drew a penalty. Shakir and Kincaid had good games. Passing game isn't great right now but Allen is not seeing guys who are open. A season long problem. Plus his interception was terrible. I was at the game, the receiver (Diggs?) was never open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, Cray51 said: You have always been thorough in your assessments, which I respect. I tend to throw a lot of points in one post so pardon any layered thoughts. I agree - what we are seeing KC right now is what the Bills COULD be if they dont address their lack of weapons. Kincaid has shown to be a good receiving TE, can we develop him into a top 5 TE in the league? Does Shakir develop into a slot guy that is truly a differentiator? Do we draft TWO outside options and move Diggs to slot/motion moving forward? What I dont want is next year we go in with Diggs/Shorter on the outside and Shakir in the slot. That's eerily close to KC level of crappy talent. At the end of the day, even without a top end WR room I think the Bills are a playoff team. I just don't think they are a Super Bowl team. Same with KC right now. They are a playoff team, but not a Super Bowl Team. It's important that Beane continues to address holes on the team and drafts well. Things he has shown to do in the past. Unfortunately, this season will ride on Allen's ability to create, and the team's ability to win the turnover battle. We likely aren't going to win in a straight shootout with teams. We need to control our possessions, convert redzone opportunities to TDs, and play sound defense, limiting teams to FGs. In the offseason, we will see where we do in FA and the draft. I remember the reports that the Bills really wanted Jalen Addison.... what could have been! Thanks! It's a legitimate topic for debate, which is why all the ruckus here, LOL, but everything you said in para 2 falls on coaching. People deflect it to the OC, first Dorsey, now Brady, but at the end of the day, another legitimate topic for debate, is that many believe that it befalls the head coach since he's the one A, choosing those OCs, and B, ultimately able to override them, particularly generally speaking and from game to game, which we haven't really seen. What we have seen is a continued focus on highlighting the Defense, seemingly at the expense of a superior Offense. Again, another quite legitimate topic for debate. But here's where I would also throw in, if that's all we're doing, "complimentary football" while minimizing the passing game like Baltimore, why do we need a gunslinger like Allen with the arm strength that he has. Remember, they drafted him for his arm strength and because he could "make every throw." Not for his abilities as a game manager, which seemingly is all that's required under Brady's O. I firmly believe that at least some of Allen's INT issues are related to the play-calling and game management. As to the rest, agree that we're a playoff team, but what's that really saying, but that we're currently not playing anywhere near well enough to advance past the D round if even the WC round pending the matchup. As to your last para, it would seem that the logical thing to do is to formulate your play-calling and game-plans to be able to optimize your strengths and have them shine as a direct result, using the other players/weapons to "compliment" that. Not to minimize one of the best QB/WR tandems in the game, turn a seemingly prolific pass-catching TE into a short-yardage specialist, and otherwise force running the ball when other than for a single game skewing the stats, your star RB is averaging an incredibly poor yards-per-carry average. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 28 minutes ago, Dopey said: Stats are stats. Since 2018(Beanse’s first draft with us): 12 picks in rounds 2 & 3. They picked 3 RBs: Moss and Singletary and Cook. That’s half of a half(1/4) If you want to include 2017 when Beane wasn’t here yet: Zay and Dawkins in the 2nd round. We had no 2nd in the 2017 draft. Since you made it about Mcd: 14 picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for Mcd: 3 RBs and 1 still here. My calculator broke. Is that even a smaller percentage? Not to mention it would be 1/3 of those RBs not here anymore. Just doing my part to try and quell false narratives here. As an aside, since 2018: 20 defensive picks 23 offensive picks Since 2017: 23 defensive picks 26 offensive picks Extra points for you for taking my post so literal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 The passing game is broken. Flat out stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/31/2023 at 7:29 PM, Beast said: I think we all know what we will be calling for in round 1 next April. We had damn well better be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 22 minutes ago, juno999 said: Diggs was open on one overthrow. I wonder if Diggs simply lost the ball in the sky, because that seemed pretty catchable to me. At worst it’s a slight dive and catch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Let's flip the conversation. The Bills are no longer a pass-only offense. Teams have to worry about defending the run too. Is that why we drafted a TE and an OG in the first two rounds? True but the offense is still struggling. As someone said earlier the problem is the Bills don't know what they are on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 44 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: The passing game is broken. Flat out stinks It's definitely not running on all 8 cylinders, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Jrb1979 said: True but the offense is still struggling. As someone said earlier the problem is the Bills don't know what they are on offense. Struggling, but not ineffectual. Did Josh not hit key throws in the 2nd half, including on the final drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Struggling, but not ineffectual. Did Josh not hit key throws in the 2nd half, including on the final drive? While true, you can't tell me that's going to happen every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 44 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: While true, you can't tell me that's going to happen every game. I don't see why it can't. People want to see is way more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/31/2023 at 9:08 PM, The Jokeman said: If Floyd and AJE leave in free agency it's not a crazy thought. Somebody has to start opposite Rousseau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: This is what I am seeing as well. Allen is jittery. He has been jittery a lot this year. He looked like he was getting back with the Eagles and Jets game but now he's back to being jittery and happy feet. He is throwing off of his back foot and off balance a lot. When he steps in and throws it, he looks poised and great. Now he looks like rookie Josh these last few games. I’ve been saying it ever since, and the sentiment is growing traction- Josh has been off since second half of Green Bay game. Josh got clobbered just short of the goal line. That hit had to hurt. Josh jumped right and yelled “I LOVE THIS *****!” Josh has been off since. Josh had so much swag before that it. Come on Josh. Please torch the Dolphins as per usual. Go Josh! Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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