Augie Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: About 10 years ago I was promoted to a job where I had 8 reports, all women. One women in particular was very upset I was promoted, as she wanted the job. 5 months into the job my boss called me out of the blue while I was at the gym, and asked if I had ever considered promoting the women who was upset over not getting the manager job. I told him I hadn't, she had a terrible attitude, and didn't have a college degree which was part of the job requirement to move to a Sr. Position. He said fair enough but I think she has great potential. One month after that conversation my local HR came to me to let me know I was under investigation for sexual harassment. And that corporate HR was coming to investigate me. Wanna guess who filed the complaint? Corporate HR investigated me, interviewed my other reports and came to the conclusion that they couldn't find any wrong doing with me towards my other reports, but because it was her word against mine, I wasn't going to be fired but if anyone ever made a claim against me again I'd be let go. A month later a different department, oddly enough law, offered me a position with no direct reports for a substantial raise. I took it, and 10 years later I am still with the company. My boss was fired after the corporate investigation however because come to find out he was sleeping with the woman who made the claim against me. He was in his 50s and married, she was in her twenties. She was sleeping with him and he was calling all the department heads trying to get her a promotion. Point is, I went to college and worked for a degree. Then I busted my butt to get my career to the point where I was being promoted. Make no mistake, this was a career, not just a job. And it was about to be taken all away because someone made a claim. To this day, I won't go to lunch with a female colleague. I won't be in an elevator or in an office alone with them. I don't talk to a female colleague about anything other than work. Maybe it only takes one but I am not taking the risk the one just happens to be the one I am talking to or alone with. This woman ruined my life for an entire month just because she could. Sorry for the tangent, but I have a college buddy who coaches girl’s high school tennis. I have told him a thousand times to make sure he is never alone with any one of those young, hormonal tennis players. You don’t have to do anything wrong to wind up in a HORRIBLE situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Sorry for the tangent, but I have a college buddy who coaches girl’s high school tennis. I have told him a thousand times to make sure he is never alone with any one of those young, hormonal tennis players. You don’t have to do anything wrong to wind up in a HORRIBLE situation. I have a teenage son. I started telling him the same thing a few years back. If a woman comes into my office, I ask her if it would be ok to move the conversation to a common area or I invite another person to join the conversation. I will never go through what I went through again. My career would have been ruined. Edited October 13, 2023 by thenorthremembers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Bob Jones said: I see this post, and others like it in this thread, as sexist, as it intimates that women should strongly be viewed as liars. You’re saying that even if the break up is “normal”, she will come running to sue with a made up claim. And in some of the other posts, same story, as it’s fact that most sexual harassment claims are brought by women, so their “scenarios” are saying that they’re worried that the woman will scream sexual harassment after the relationship ends. Not all women are liars, just like not all people are liars. I never said she will, but that she could. He would have a harder time filing a claim against the Bills, much less for sexual harassment, so that's why I went with one example of what could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Bob Jones said: I see this post, and others like it in this thread, as sexist, as it intimates that women should strongly be viewed as liars. You’re saying that even if the break up is “normal”, she will come running to sue with a made up claim. And in some of the other posts, same story, as it’s fact that most sexual harassment claims are brought by women, so their “scenarios” are saying that they’re worried that the woman will scream sexual harassment after the relationship ends. Not all women are liars, just like not all people are liars. I think 'normal' is what's up for debate There are a ton of scenarios wherein certain workplace dynamics can create potential for grounds that's why companies try to discourage as much as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) Speaking of sexual harassment, one of the really attractive nurses at work (a manager, on the GI side) just came up to me alone in the hallway that leads to the GI suites and said "X left her phone in the locker room. Let's take a dick pic!" while pointing it at my nether regions. I said "you'll have to back up a bit." Edited October 13, 2023 by Doc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Yeah, it's the NY Post, but they're saying the London trip did them in. https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/top-bills-sabres-execs-fired-over-brazen-romantic-relationship/? Quote The Buffalo Bills’ trip to London ended in an upset and a front office shakeup. John Roth, who was recently named chief operating officer of both the Bills and Buffalo Sabres — which are owned by Terry Pegula — was fired, along with Kathryn D’Angelo, the Bills’ general counsel and senior vice president of business administration, due to their involvement in a romantic relationship in the workplace, according to The Athletic. Things between Roth and D’Angelo “got too brazen” in London, though the exact details of what occurred are unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, it's the NY Post, but they're saying the London trip did them in. https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/top-bills-sabres-execs-fired-over-brazen-romantic-relationship/? The London trip did me in too….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, it's the NY Post, but they're saying the London trip did them in. https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/top-bills-sabres-execs-fired-over-brazen-romantic-relationship/? Quote The Bills announced a new management committee — consisting of Roth, D’Angelo and Josh Dziurlikowski It is the NY Post. Surprised they did not call the new management committee a threesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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