The now public FD1023 the FBI hid from congress, paired with this video...

[ChiGoose]

51 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

The thing that is so incredibly hard for the clickservative crowd to understand is that Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the top prosecutor specifically because the prosecutor wasn’t prosecuting corruption. 
 

Ironically, Joe Biden pressuring for the firing of Shokin made it *more likely* that Burisma would be investigated but that doesn’t fit the narrative so they just make up BS instead. They will swallow any lie so long as it supports their worldview 

[BillStime]

11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

The thing that is so incredibly hard for the clickservative crowd to understand is that Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the top prosecutor specifically because the prosecutor wasn’t prosecuting corruption. 
 

Ironically, Joe Biden pressuring for the firing of Shokin made it *more likely* that Burisma would be investigated but that doesn’t fit the narrative so they just make up BS instead. They will swallow any lie so long as it supports their worldview 

They are desperate AF and it shows. 
 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

22 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

The thing that is so incredibly hard for the clickservative crowd to understand is that Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the top prosecutor specifically because the prosecutor wasn’t prosecuting corruption. 
 

Ironically, Joe Biden pressuring for the firing of Shokin made it *more likely* that Burisma would be investigated but that doesn’t fit the narrative so they just make up BS instead. They will swallow any lie so long as it supports their worldview 

Also not included in this is the fact that Joe Biden was in a coalition of countries. The United States was an acting separately whenever it came to pressuring, for the firing of the Burisma prosecutor

 

It wasn’t Joe Biden acting on his own

[ChiGoose]

10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

They are desperate AF and it shows. 
 

 

 

I think “desperate” gives them too much credit. They would have to have even the slightest grasp on reality to be desperate.

 

It’s just so, so, so much more likely that they are either ignorant or just stupid.

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I think “desperate” gives them too much credit. They would have to have even the slightest grasp on reality to be desperate.

 

It’s just so, so, so much more likely that they are either ignorant or just stupid.

Well, no question they are stupid… but also desperate. How many times can you run into a concrete wall?

 

Thats why:

 

 

[Buffarukus]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

I think “desperate” gives them too much credit. They would have to have even the slightest grasp on reality to be desperate.

 

It’s just so, so, so much more likely that they are either ignorant or just stupid.

 

Umm you guys are pretty certain a crackhead, i repeat a crackhead, was given powerful jobs based on his merit. Oh yeah honest hard working uncorruptable crackheads who video tape hookers would certainly not take bribery...thats ignorant to suggest lol. Or is it the outlandish idea a  politician is getting rich off his name and position by funnling money into accounts illegally through family? Hey chi i also think paul pelosi is incredably good at choosing stocks and has nothing to do with insider trading. The fbi would be all over that!!!  Wheres the proof!! LoL! 

 

Who really has lost touch with reality here buddy. What is likely in this senario? how long do you think a multi billion dollar organization with thousands of employees needs to "investigate" to come up with a answer one way or the other? The same one who knew nothing about russiagate and kept perfectly quite while the labtop was disinformationed for years. Remember that right wing conspiracy? Hmm its like their silence seems to benefit one side only. but its exactly like the dossier! Oh wait, its the exact opposite. 

 

Coincidence.

 

Such childlike innocence in these beliefs that justice is so pure and equal for all. hard working agencies are hard at work protecting the populous from gov corruption and non corrupt themselves. Its like a kid who still believes a fat guy leaves them presents every year. 

 

What ever you need to tell yourself i guess. Your the only sane one.

 

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Buffarukus

[BillsFanNC]

4 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

Umm you guys are pretty certain a crackhead, i repeat a crackhead, was given powerful jobs based on his merit. Oh yeah honest hard working uncorruptable crackheads who video tape hookers would certainly not take bribery...thats ignorant to suggest lol. Or is it the outlandish idea a  politician is getting rich off his name and position by funnling money into accounts illegally through family? Hey chi i also think paul pelosi is incredably good at choosing stocks and has nothing to do with insider trading. The fbi would be all over that!!!  Wheres the proof!! LoL! 

 

Who really has lost touch with reality here buddy. What is likely in this senario? how long do you think a multi billion dollar organization with thousands of employees needs to "investigate" to come up with a answer one way or the other? The same one who knew nothing about russiagate and kept perfectly quite while the labtop was disinformationed for years. Remember that right wing conspiracy? Hmm its like their silence seems to benefit one side only. but its exactly like the dossier! Oh wait, its the exact opposite. 

 

Coincidence.

 

Such childlike innocence in these beliefs that justice is so pure and equal for all. hard working agencies are hard at work protecting the populous from gov corruption and non corrupt themselves. Its like a kid who still believes a fat guy leaves them presents every year. 

 

What ever you need to tell yourself i guess. Your the only sane one.

 

 

 

The KING @ChiGoose

[ChiGoose]

6 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

Umm you guys are pretty certain a crackhead, i repeat a crackhead, was given powerful jobs based on his merit. Oh yeah honest hard working uncorruptable crackheads who video tape hookers would certainly not take bribery...thats ignorant to suggest lol. Or is it the outlandish idea a  politician is getting rich off his name and position by funnling money into accounts illegally through family? Hey chi i also think paul pelosi is incredably good at choosing stocks and has nothing to do with insider trading. The fbi would be all over that!!!  Wheres the proof!! LoL! 

 

Who really has lost touch with reality here buddy. What is likely in this senario? how long do you think a multi billion dollar organization with thousands of employees needs to "investigate" to come up with a answer one way or the other? The same one who knew nothing about russiagate and kept perfectly quite while the labtop was disinformationed for years. Remember that right wing conspiracy? Hmm its like their silence seems to benefit one side only. but its exactly like the dossier! Oh wait, its the exact opposite. 

 

Coincidence.

 

Such childlike innocence in these beliefs that justice is so pure and equal for all. hard working agencies are hard at work protecting the populous from gov corruption and non corrupt themselves. Its like a kid who still believes a fat guy leaves them presents every year. 

 

What ever you need to tell yourself i guess. Your the only sane one.

 

 

Wrong, as usual. 
 

Obviously Hunter was trading on his dad’s name. There’s no reason he would get such a cushy job on his own merit. He’s a classic failson. 
 

But there’s a difference between being perceived as wielding your dad’s influence and actually doing it. 
 

I have no doubt that Hunter talked up his dad and what he could get his dad to do. But what we haven’t seen is actual hard evidence that Joe Biden actually did anything. We have the testimony of one guy saying he bribed two Biden’s. Is he telling the truth? Is Joe one of the Biden’s or is it Hunter and his uncle? Do you have any independently verified evidence that payment was made specifically to Joe Biden?

[Doc]

9 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

The thing that is so incredibly hard for the clickservative crowd to understand is that Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the top prosecutor specifically because the prosecutor wasn’t prosecuting corruption. 
 

Ironically, Joe Biden pressuring for the firing of Shokin made it *more likely* that Burisma would be investigated but that doesn’t fit the narrative so they just make up BS instead. They will swallow any lie so long as it supports their worldview 

 

You know what's even harder?  For naive and/or partisan hacks to point to corruption being prosecuted after Shokin was fired.  Considering, you know, he was impeding it.   He wasn't even charged with corruption despite being removed for exactly that reason.  Yet you guys lap it up because it's your guy. 

[JDHillFan]

4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Wrong, as usual. 
 

Obviously Hunter was trading on his dad’s name. There’s no reason he would get such a cushy job on his own merit. He’s a classic failson. 
 

But there’s a difference between being perceived as wielding your dad’s influence and actually doing it. 
 

I have no doubt that Hunter talked up his dad and what he could get his dad to do. But what we haven’t seen is actual hard evidence that Joe Biden actually did anything. We have the testimony of one guy saying he bribed two Biden’s. Is he telling the truth? Is Joe one of the Biden’s or is it Hunter and his uncle? Do you have any independently verified evidence that payment was made specifically to Joe Biden?

Hunter Biden, a delinquent, was able to squeeze $17,000,000 from foreign entities with them getting absolutely nothing in return other than Hunter talking up what his father might be able to do. Your position is that Hunter Biden outsmarted all these foreign entities to the tune of 17M?
 

Many times you have painted yourself here as the arbiter of common sense and logic. This makes sense to you? This is logical? 

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Hunter Biden, a delinquent, was able to squeeze $17,000,000 from foreign entities with them getting absolutely nothing in return other than Hunter talking up what his father might be able to do. Your position is that Hunter Biden outsmarted all these foreign entities to the tune of 17M?
 

Many times you have painted yourself here as the arbiter of common sense and logic. This makes sense to you? This is logical? 

 

Well, he's the smartest man Joke knows, so...

[BillStime]

👆🤡 And these idiots don’t think Trump’s DOJ/FBI investigated this during their four years?

 

Seriously - f’n idiots 

 

[ChiGoose]

21 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Hunter Biden, a delinquent, was able to squeeze $17,000,000 from foreign entities with them getting absolutely nothing in return other than Hunter talking up what his father might be able to do. Your position is that Hunter Biden outsmarted all these foreign entities to the tune of 17M?
 

Many times you have painted yourself here as the arbiter of common sense and logic. This makes sense to you? This is logical? 

My position is that I need more than a statement from one random guy saying he bribed “two Biden’s” to believe that Joe Biden took a bribe. 
 

You know, something actually showing that Joe Biden actually took a bribe. That whole thing called “evidence”. Maybe subpoena his financial records and see if there’s something there. 
 

Until then, this is a random person saying something with no evidence to back it. Just like the Steele Dossier you all rightfully called out. 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

My position is that I need more than a statement from one random guy saying he bribed “two Biden’s” to believe that Joe Biden took a bribe. 
 

You know, something actually showing that Joe Biden actually took a bribe. That whole thing called “evidence”. Maybe subpoena his financial records and see if there’s something there. 
 

Until then, this is a random person saying something with no evidence to back it. Just like the Steele Dossier you all rightfully called out. 

They don’t need evidence - they don’t need to collaborate the gossip - the cult already told us the better psyop wins! 
 

 

[JDHillFan]

Just now, ChiGoose said:

My position is that I need more than a statement from one random guy saying he bribed “two Biden’s” to believe that Joe Biden took a bribe. 
 

You know, something actually showing that Joe Biden actually took a bribe. That whole thing called “evidence”. Maybe subpoena his financial records and see if there’s something there. 
 

Until then, this is a random person saying something with no evidence to back it. Just like the Steele Dossier you all rightfully called out. 

Let’s move off the bribe, for which there is not currently hard evidence to prove, and consider influence peddling. Does common sense and logic tell you it occurred in exchange for 17,000,000? Or was it just Hunter’s people skills that reeled that in? Did he dupe the world? I’m trying to figure exactly where we should GTFO with facts and logic as you apply them. 

[ChiGoose]

5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Let’s move off the bribe, for which there is not currently hard evidence to prove, and consider influence peddling. Does common sense and logic tell you it occurred in exchange for 17,000,000? Or was it just Hunter’s people skills that reeled that in? Did he dupe the world? I’m trying to figure exactly where we should GTFO with facts and logic as you apply them. 

I’m sure people thought he had influence over his dad.
 

If you’re sitting on a giant pile of money and have the opportunity to pull the son of the VP into your fold, it makes a lot of sense to throw some money at him to see what you could get. 

40 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You know what's even harder?  For naive and/or partisan hacks to point to corruption being prosecuted after Shokin was fired.  Considering, you know, he was impeding it.   He wasn't even charged with corruption despite being removed for exactly that reason.  Yet you guys lap it up because it's your guy. 

I love this argument so much. It’s just so dumb. It requires you to believe that people can see into the future. 
 

This is like sitting there in 2016 and saying “are we sure we fired Doug Marrone because he sucked? We fired him and we still suck. Maybe there’s another reason…”

 

The entire Western world wanted Shokin fired because he was corrupt. Firing him, however, doesn’t immediately end corruption. While Ukraine has made progress on combating corruption, it’s long history of corruption is one of its biggest impediments to fully joining the west. 
 

And for some reason, this is incredibly difficult for some people to grasp. 

[Pokebball]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Wrong, as usual. 
 

Obviously Hunter was trading on his dad’s name. There’s no reason he would get such a cushy job on his own merit. He’s a classic failson. 
 

But there’s a difference between being perceived as wielding your dad’s influence and actually doing it. 
 

I have no doubt that Hunter talked up his dad and what he could get his dad to do. But what we haven’t seen is actual hard evidence that Joe Biden actually did anything. We have the testimony of one guy saying he bribed two Biden’s. Is he telling the truth? Is Joe one of the Biden’s or is it Hunter and his uncle? Do you have any independently verified evidence that payment was made specifically to Joe Biden?

Are we arguing about a narrative? Isn't the real question here is whether Joe personally benefitted from these events?

 

I was speaking to a neighbor the other day, and his argument is that Joe didn't benefit personally and that perhaps many family members did benefit, but Joe didn't, personally.  My response was really? All of Joe's kids benefitted, his grandkids benefitted, and that's OK because Joe himself didn't? Yeah, no benefit to Joe.

 

If Joe peddled influence that benefitted him and/or his family, it's a problem.

[ChiGoose]

6 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

If Joe peddled influence that benefitted him and/or his family, it's a problem.

Absolutely. But I’m not going to believe that on the testimony of one guy saying he bribed two Biden’s. Show me where Joe himself was actually involved. Hard evidence. 

[BillsFanNC]

We also have Hunters former business partner who unequivocally and publicly stated that he would be willing to testify, under oath, that the 10% for the big guy was indeed referring to Joe Biden.

 

But for some odd reason the FBI never called to ask him to put that on the record. 

 

This makes perfect logical sense for the King to ignore and keep hand waving it all away.

 

Truly delusional. 

 

The King. @ChiGoose

 

26 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Are we arguing about a narrative? Isn't the real question here is whether Joe personally benefitted from these events?

 

I was speaking to a neighbor the other day, and his argument is that Joe didn't benefit personally and that perhaps many family members did benefit, but Joe didn't, personally.  My response was really? All of Joe's kids benefitted, his grandkids benefitted, and that's OK because Joe himself didn't? Yeah, no benefit to Joe.

 

If Joe peddled influence that benefitted him and/or his family, it's a problem.

 

Tony Bobulinski. 

[JDHillFan]

56 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I’m sure people thought he had influence over his dad.
 

If you’re sitting on a giant pile of money and have the opportunity to pull the son of the VP into your fold, it makes a lot of sense to throw some money at him to see what you could get. 

You are going with Hunter Biden, crackhead loser, tricked multiple foreign entities out of $17M and they were most likely stunned to learn they were left holding the bag. That’s something!
 

Please reconsider the next time you intend to play the logic and common sense cards. They don’t work when your main impulse is to reflexively defend a 50 year creature of Washington.