T master Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 9:42 AM, ChiGoose said: I am old enough to remember when conservatives were mad about the Steele Dossier because it was just unverified and uninvestigated rumors… Unverified & Uninvestigated rumors that cost American tax payers Millions & caused a sitting POTUS to allow FISA warrants illegally due to the unsubstantiated evidence that caused a 4 year investigation that came up with nothing other than finding out that the dossier was BS ... So there's that . But this is audio & video that shows bragging about having someone fired for doing nothing other than maybe being in the way of something . But nothing to see here folks ... Edited July 26, 2023 by T master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 hours ago, T master said: Unverified & Uninvestigated rumors that cost American tax payers Millions & caused a sitting POTUS to allow FISA warrants illegally due to the unsubstantiated evidence that caused a 4 year investigation that came up with nothing other than finding out that the dossier was BS ... So there's that . But this is audio & video that shows bragging about having someone fired for doing nothing other than maybe being in the way of something . But nothing to see here folks ... The reason that so many people are skeptical of the Biden corruption claims is because they are built on the testimony of people who believe this already debunked crap. Very little in here bears a semblance to reality, but I guess if you try hard enough, you can convince yourself anything is true. 1. The Mueller investigation was not predicated on the Steele Dossier 2. POTUS is not involved with FISA warrants 3. The Mueller investigation resulted in charges against over 30 people and multiple companies with several people being found guilty of crimes 4. The Mueller investigation found that Trump himself had met the elements of obstruction of justice 5. Biden pressured Ukraine to fire Shokin at the behest of the President of the United States with the full support of our allies specifically because Shokin was *not* fighting corruption. But yeah, the Steele Dossier was crap. So I guess you went 1 for 6. Nice job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 7/21/2023 at 10:42 AM, ChiGoose said: I am old enough to remember when conservatives were mad about the Steele Dossier because it was just unverified and uninvestigated rumors… Huh? The Dossier wad fake…conservatives were right to be skeptical…what point are you trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, JaCrispy said: Huh? The Dossier wad fake…conservatives were right to be skeptical…what point are you trying to make? That he is the KING! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Huh? The Dossier wad fake…conservatives were right to be skeptical…what point are you trying to make? That when you have unverified claims, you shouldn’t rush to believe them just because you want them to be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: That when you have unverified claims, you shouldn’t rush to believe them just because you want them to be true. Correct. I was counsel to a law enforcement agency after 9/11 happened. That agency got inundated with tips. Some sounded pretty convincing and downright scary. So-and-so was a money conduit for the 19 hijackers. So-and-so from the same country was trying to get into the same flight training courses. All kinds of things. Many, many tips, upon follow-up, turned out to be from people who got something wrong. Or even worse, from people looking to settle a score with the person who was the subject of the tip. That's why this stuff is considered raw, unvetted, unverified, until it is. Edited July 26, 2023 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: That when you have unverified claims, you shouldn’t rush to believe them just because you want them to be true. Lol!!! Now you’ve come to that conclusion? I wonder what has happened that might of changed your mind in regards to rushing to judgement. Everyone can see through your little charade. 20 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Correct. I was counsel to a law enforcement agency after 9/11 happened. That agency got inundated with tips. Some sounded pretty convincing and downright scary. So-and-so was a money conduit for the 19 hijackers. So-and-so from the same country was trying to get into the same flight training courses. All kinds of things. Many, many tips, upon follow-up, turned out to be from people who got something wrong. Or even worse, from people looking to settle a score with the person who was the subject of the tip. That's why this stuff is considered raw, unvetted, unverified, until it is. Did you believe this when the the whole “Russian interference” was happening against Trump? Maybe someone should tell your little pet chihuahua billstime the Russian interference was a hoax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, Westside said: Russian interference was a hoax It was not a hoax. It happened. The question was whether Trump and the Trump campaign invited it, looked the other way as it happened, coordinated with it, etc. They may not have "colluded" with Russia in the end (although some Trump campaign people got convicted for what anyone would call collusion in common parlance - for example, Manafort sharing Trump campaign polling information with Russians), but yes ... the Russians (and Russia) did most definitely interfere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, ChiGoose said: 1. The Mueller investigation was not predicated on the Steele Dossier 2. POTUS is not involved with FISA warrants 3. The Mueller investigation resulted in charges against over 30 people and multiple companies with several people being found guilty of crimes 4. The Mueller investigation found that Trump himself had met the elements of obstruction of justice 5. Biden pressured Ukraine to fire Shokin at the behest of the President of the United States with the full support of our allies specifically because Shokin was *not* fighting corruption. Using C3's normal MO 1.HOAX 2.HOAX 3.HOAX 4.HOAX 5.HOAX 6.HOAX @ChiGoose , the one and only king! Edited July 27, 2023 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wacka said: Using C3's normal MO 1.HOAX 2.HOAX 3.HOAX 4.HOAX 5.HOAX 6.HOAX @ChiGoose , the one and only king! The thing that I love about this is that these really aren’t in dispute. Even Durham found that the Steele Dossier wasn’t the predicate for the Russia investigation. Bunch of people in here running around screaming the equivalent of the earth is flat. Edited July 27, 2023 by ChiGoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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