BillStime Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Hilarious - I guess pronouns do matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 I don't believe any of this: “The U.S. government should declare America a Christian nation.” “U.S. laws should be based on Christian values.” “If the U.S. moves away from our Christian foundations, we will not have a country anymore.” “Being Christian is an important part of being truly American.” “God has called Christians to exercise dominion over all areas of American society.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I don't believe any of this: “The U.S. government should declare America a Christian nation.” “U.S. laws should be based on Christian values.” “If the U.S. moves away from our Christian foundations, we will not have a country anymore.” “Being Christian is an important part of being truly American.” “God has called Christians to exercise dominion over all areas of American society.” Who would’ve guessed? Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I'll admit that God might be a woman. How else can you explain the highs and lows of our planet throughout history. Crazy mood swings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: Have you ever seen him naked? And Jesus was his son, so he was male too. This is all very gender specific, really no blurred lines or room to debate. Also, Mary was in fact a woman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, TSOL said: Also, Mary was in fact a woman. And a virgin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 1:18 PM, sherpa said: God is a being No need for human gender. By the way, no knowledgeable human thinks that Jesus was "lily white." That is nonsense. He was the same as others of his locale/era. It is mentioned that his appearance never stood out. Yeah but his depiction in paintings, at least in every church and cathedral I've ever seen, is very much white. I've been to quite a few in the US and across Europe and I've never seen anything resembling to what we'd agree would be accurate. It's odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yeah but his depiction in paintings, at least in every church and cathedral I've ever seen, is very much white. I've been to quite a few in the US and across Europe and I've never seen anything resembling to what we'd agree would be accurate. It's odd. There is literally nothing odd about it. When the tradition of stained glass depictions started, the people were generally illiterate, so they could not read the Bible. The statues and stained glass you see in those churches were a way to make the biblical stories more relatable to them. There’s nothing racist whatsoever about it. Geeez! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Have you ever tried to get stained glass in "being" colors? It's very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: There is literally nothing odd about it. When the tradition of stained glass depictions started, the people were generally illiterate, so they could not read the Bible. The statues and stained glass you see in those churches were a way to make the biblical stories more relatable to them. There’s nothing racist whatsoever about it. Geeez! Uh, I wasn't going toward racism but yeah. Modern depictions almost always show him as white as well. I'm aware there are others but I have seen zero in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: There is literally nothing odd about it. When the tradition of stained glass depictions started, the people were generally illiterate, so they could not read the Bible. The statues and stained glass you see in those churches were a way to make the biblical stories more relatable to them. There’s nothing racist whatsoever about it. Geeez! Two Christian scholars disagree: https://www.britannica.com/story/the-long-history-of-how-jesus-came-to-resemble-a-whiteeuropean. I'll post this again right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: Two Christian scholars disagree: https://www.britannica.com/story/the-long-history-of-how-jesus-came-to-resemble-a-whiteeuropean. I'll post this again right here. Oh brother. So you instead choose to believe the people were all literate? 2 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Uh, I wasn't going toward racism but yeah. Modern depictions almost always show him as white as well. I'm aware there are others but I have seen zero in person. There are MANY depictions of a colored Jesus. Again, the intent is to make him more relatable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh brother. So you instead choose to believe the people were all literate? There are MANY depictions of a colored Jesus. Again, the intent is to make him more relatable. the people that commissioned most of the art weren't illiterate. they knew what they were doing. Additionally, per this article, the white Jesus we're all accustomed to is relatively new, when almost everybody was literate. Harvey is very impressive. Read what chris farley posted by him. Edited February 9, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Who would’ve guessed? Really? You'd be for that nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And a virgin? The tolerant left mocking the beliefs of others. Who would have ever thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, JDHillFan said: The tolerant left mocking the beliefs of others. Who would have ever thought? You do believe that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You do believe that then? Today’s left - Christians bad, The Man good. You are free to worship at the altar of government as you do here daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Today’s left - Christians bad, The Man good. You are free to worship at the altar of government as you do here daily. How about not worshipping at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: How about not worshipping at all? You are free to do that also. Everything you post here indicates that’s not an option for you. Whatever floats your boat. As a freedom lover yourself I’m surprised to see you making fun of others beliefs. Maybe you and your ilk on this board are just paying lip service to the whole freedom/tolerance/inclusion thing. Wait, did I say maybe? My bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: You are free to do that also. Everything you post here indicates that’s not an option for you. Whatever floats your boat. As a freedom lover yourself I’m surprised to see you making fun of others beliefs. Maybe you and your ilk on this board are just paying lip service to the whole freedom/tolerance/inclusion thing. Wait, did I say maybe? My bad. Boy, someone has lost it. Are you what they call a snow flake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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