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It's true that people do have thin skin, especially in circumstances like these.  You don't see what's offensive about it?  Well, when your race is put into slavery for over 400 years, then endures more torture and killings at the hands of the Klan during the Jim Crow law/civil rights era, and still has trouble being seen as equals in many aspects of life, then you'd understand a bit more.  Not saying that I am that thin skinned on race issues, but there are plenty of black people who are, and for good reason.

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Don't you know that it is up to white people to decide what black people are allowed and not allowed to find offensive? Get with the program. Those never victimized by racism are quite obviously in a far better postion to determine what is and is not racist. As for the victims of racism, what could they possibly know about racism?

 

Most white people in the US have decided that racism no longer exists therefore it doesn't. Simple, see?

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Don't you know that it is up to white people to decide what black people are allowed and not allowed to find offensive?  Get with the program.  Those never victimized by racism are quite obviously in a far better postion to determine what is and is not racist.  As for the victims of racism, what could they possibly know about racism?

 

Most white people in the US have decided that racism no longer exists therefore it doesn't.  Simple, see?

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Yessuh, Ize doo seez it, suh.

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Don't you know that it is up to white people to decide what black people are allowed and not allowed to find offensive?  Get with the program.  Those never victimized by racism are quite obviously in a far better postion to determine what is and is not racist.  As for the victims of racism, what could they possibly know about racism?

 

Most white people in the US have decided that racism no longer exists therefore it doesn't.  Simple, see?

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Down with whitey!

 

Look man, my ancestors never lynched anybody, never owned a slave. Neither have I. So how is it I'm supposed to pay for the sins of people in the past with whome I've got no connectionother than the color of my skin, huh?

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Location may well have some income bias associated with it as those who accumulate more assets or income would tend to live in the better locations.

 

We also live in a society where because of modern communications and technology we can all share a common culture that would tend to make living in separate locations at least more transparent if not allow for easy movement and mixing between locations as the all share many aspects of the common culture.

 

Yet, despite this general commitment to a merit based society, some sense that location would show a clear merit-based element and despite an unparalelled ease of movement between locations in modern society, what I find is an indication that we have not yet achieved the merit based society we (I) want (it is my fear of the failure of society to be merit based which I find troubling).

 

 

b.s. People gravitate towards those that are most like themselves. It's natural, not segregation. Does it also trouble you that Koreans, Russians, Arabs, etc. all tend to form homogeneous communities within our cities?

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In my High School yearbook, anyone that didnt complete the athletic season after the team photo was taken had "I quit" placed under his picture. Odd, there was no hue and cry over this. I guess I didnt grow up in such prissy times.

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Down with whitey!

 

Look man, my ancestors never lynched anybody, never owned a slave. Neither have I. So how is it I'm supposed to pay for the sins of people in the past with whome I've got no connectionother than the color of my skin, huh?

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Who said you're supposed to pay? All I said was that because of what black people went through for centuries, many do hold a grudge.

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All I said was that because of what black people went through for centuries, many do hold a grudge.

Most of those people are dead, as are their oppressors. So who is perpetuating the grudge? People that want the free ride continued into the 23rd century? I was bused as a kid, and I was denied a job once because I was not a"black female".

I agree with Bill Cosby, it's time for people to get off their lazy @ss and taking responsibility for their own kids instead of letting the state or some sports icon be their role model.

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Sorry, I'm not buying that blather. If I've made enough money to live in a good school district, I don't want MY tax dollars paying for kids from the inner city to attend that school. If their parents want to foot the bill for their kids to attend my district's schools, then so be it. But not my tax dollars.

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Separate and unequal. Great idea for a public school. Why don't we just implement a caste system. Your money should protect you from the 'great unwashed,' right?

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Down with whitey!

 

Look man, my ancestors never lynched anybody, never owned a slave. Neither have I. So how is it I'm supposed to pay for the sins of people in the past with whome I've got no connectionother than the color of my skin, huh?

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Wow!

 

Why? Because there are still millions of racists in America. How long ago was the 1960's? Those same people that hated Black people and raised their kids to hate black people still hate black people. Known Racists are in the minority, but there are many closet Racists and still millions of known racists in America.

 

It wont be gone until that generation dies, and most likely it will still be around.

 

When you have a school of mostly white kids, to lable a girl the "Black Girl", it shows ignorance and a lack of inteligence.

 

I thought more people on this board would understand this. People get all upset whenever the Race card is brought up, BUT THERE IS A BIG REASON WHY IT IS BROUGHT UP.

 

If your a black man in society today, lets say like 30, how old might your Father and Mother be? What major movement did they live through? Thats your answer. It wasnt long ago when Racism was alive and well throughout the country, greater in some places than others. Its still a problem, and instead of asking why do Black people always whine about racism, show sympathy and understanding, or better yet dont say or do anything at all.

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Wow!

 

Why? Because there are still millions of racists in America.  How long ago was the 1960's?  Those same people that hated Black people and raised their kids to hate black people still hate black people.  Known Racists are in the minority, but there are many closet Racists and still millions of known racists in America.

 

It wont be gone until that generation dies, and most likely it will still be around. 

 

When you have a school of mostly white kids, to lable a girl the "Black Girl", it shows ignorance and a lack of inteligence.

 

I thought more people on this board would understand this.  People get all upset whenever the Race card is brought up, BUT THERE IS A BIG REASON WHY IT IS BROUGHT UP. 

 

If your a black man in society today, lets say like 30, how old might your Father and Mother be?  What major movement did they live through?  Thats your answer.  It wasnt long ago when Racism was alive and well throughout the country, greater in some places than others.  Its still a problem, and instead of asking why do Black people always whine about racism, show sympathy and understanding, or better yet dont say or do anything at all.

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It is true that racism still exists. It is also true that there is a small percentage African-Americans that are purposely trying to keep it alive in order to use it as a crutch. Actual racism (white on black, for example) is well documented, so there is no need for me to elaborate. I will focus on the second part of my statement.

 

I have seen first-hand, instances of people using their race as a crutch. For instance, I have seen a student do absolutely no work in a class. Their GPA was below 1.0 as a result. After getting an F on an exam (one in which the student did not write answers to about 95 percent of the questions), immediately jump up and cry that the teacher was racist for giving him an F. The teacher showed that about 95 percent of the answers were missing, but the student insisted that the reason why the teacher gave the student an F was that the student was black and the teacher was white, not that 95 percent of the answers were missing. The student then stormed out of the class and went to the dean to report the teacher. This is just one instance of several I have seen over the years. This does nothing to eliminate racism in our society.

 

Is is because they have seen so much racism in their lives that they automatically assume that anything not going their way is due to racism? Possibly. How do you break that vicious cycle? I don't know. As long as African-Americans are victims of racism, there will always be thoughts of racist activities against them in their minds. As long as African-Americans "play the race card" when there is no evidence of racism, there will continue to be resentment from people. One perpetuates the other, and vise versa.

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All I said was that because of what black people went through for centuries, many do hold a grudge.

Most of those people are dead, as are their oppressors. So who is perpetuating the grudge? People that want the free ride continued into the 23rd century?  I was bused as a kid, and I was denied a job once because I was not a"black female".

I agree with Bill Cosby, it's time for people to get off their lazy @ss and taking responsibility for their own kids instead of letting the state or some sports icon be their role model.

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dib, it's not just "lazy a**" blacks who still remember what atrocities blacks were forced to endure. There are plenty of educated and employed blacks who deal w/ racism on a daily basis. Now, do they use it as an excuse? No. To ASSume that the blacks who still are bitter due to many years of racism are all unemployed and lazy is quite incorrect. I consider myself educated and I've been employed for the better part of the past 18 years and there are still times when I feel the effects of racism. It happens, and will probably happen from time to time for the rest of my life. I can accept that, even if I don't agree w/ it.

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Separate and unequal.  Great idea for a public school.  Why don't we just implement a caste system.  Your money should protect you from the 'great unwashed,' right?

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Motney talks, BS walks, pal.

 

If I'm paying $X every year so that the kids in my district get a top-notch education, why should someone who does not have to share that burden reap the benefits?

 

This ain't the USSR.

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Wow!

 

Why? Because there are still millions of racists in America.  How long ago was the 1960's?  Those same people that hated Black people and raised their kids to hate black people still hate black people.  Known Racists are in the minority, but there are many closet Racists and still millions of known racists in America.

 

It wont be gone until that generation dies, and most likely it will still be around. 

 

When you have a school of mostly white kids, to lable a girl the "Black Girl", it shows ignorance and a lack of inteligence.

 

I thought more people on this board would understand this.  People get all upset whenever the Race card is brought up, BUT THERE IS A BIG REASON WHY IT IS BROUGHT UP. 

 

If your a black man in society today, lets say like 30, how old might your Father and Mother be?  What major movement did they live through?  Thats your answer.  It wasnt long ago when Racism was alive and well throughout the country, greater in some places than others.  Its still a problem, and instead of asking why do Black people always whine about racism, show sympathy and understanding, or better yet dont say or do anything at all.

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Yes, because we should all be forced to either tow the line or have no opinion on the subject because we're white, right?

 

Right. Because that's what this country is all about, right? Right.

 

My grandfather couldn't speak English when he got to this country, and yet was able to put himself through Harvard Law. How was that possible without affirmative action? By all accounts he was a TRUE victim of racism. He was a prisoner of the Nazis for the only reason of having a dual Polish/US citizenship. There's not a black alive that suffered in that manner. So, no, I don't have any pity for whiners or excuse makers. The barriers that were in place in the 50s aren't around any more. No more exucses.

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We're talking about a young person's feelings here.

 

The HS can say there was no malicious intent, but that assumes an aggressive plan to embarrass the girl. The lack of effort to insure the girl's name was included in the photo's caption prior to printing could be interpreted as a passive-aggressive act, resulting in the same degree of embarrassment.

 

How could something that may seem like an innocent mistake to you, be interpreted as something far more sinister to others?

 

Perhaps, because black citizens of this country have faced a long history of exclusion and rejection. Think of white racsim as a 'conditioning' program that our black neighbors have been forced to participate in. It's past benefit to white Americans was in fostering a self-loathing and low esteem among black Americans.

 

Christian doctrine may have demanded that we free the slave, but economic doctrine demanded that we maintained their slave-mentality. "Like a dog on the corner, that can't lift his head, he settles for lifting his leg instead", Danny O'Keefe.

 

So for the last fifty years America has been trying to undo this conditioning.

Unfortunately, we're talking about re-arranging the deformed perceptions of a collective pyche. It will take time and postive reinforcement to facillitate this change.

 

Everyone responds well to compassion, thoughfulness and respect.

This story is about the lack of all three.

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Motney talks, BS walks, pal.

 

If I'm paying $X every year so that the kids in my district get a top-notch education, why should someone who does not have to share that burden reap the benefits?

 

This ain't the USSR.

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So put up some real money and dump your kids in private school, where they can learn racism the old fashioned way.

 

Claiming that equality in education is equivalent to being in the USSR is downright moronic.

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So put up some real money and dump your kids in private school, where they can learn racism the old fashioned way.

 

Claiming that equality in education is equivalent to being in the USSR is downright moronic.

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He is not saying that equality in education is equivalent to being in the USSR. What he is saying is that person A pays $2000/yr in taxes for schools. Person B pays $1000/yr in taxes for schools. Why should person B benefit from the additional taxes paid by person A? If Person B wants the benefits of person A, they should pay the same taxes as person A.

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He is not saying that equality in education is equivalent to being in the USSR. What he is saying is that person A pays $2000/yr in taxes for schools. Person B pays $1000/yr in taxes for schools. Why should person B benefit from the additional taxes paid by person A? If Person B wants the benefits of person A, they should pay the same taxes as person A.

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It's a PUBLIC education. All kids, no matter the economic status of their parents should have access to it. Just because you choose to pay more in taxes doesn't give you the right to build a wall around the school and keep others out.

 

If you want to deny access to "inner city kids" (whatever that implies), pay the extra dough to go to a private school that will keep the "inner city kids" out.

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He is not saying that equality in education is equivalent to being in the USSR. What he is saying is that person A pays $2000/yr in taxes for schools. Person B pays $1000/yr in taxes for schools. Why should person B benefit from the additional taxes paid by person A? If Person B wants the benefits of person A, they should pay the same taxes as person A.

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Oh so now you want to raise taxes on these poor inner city kids. 0:)

 

Tax and spend. All you politicians are the same. :angry:

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