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18 Absurdities of the McConnell-Schumer Omnibus Spending Bill


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3 minutes ago, LeviF said:

We’re in the “loot the treasury” phase of a republic. 


Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle.
 

Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020?

 

smfh
 

 

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9 hours ago, BillStime said:


Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle.
 

Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020?

 

smfh
 

 

Thank you for reminding us of the fact that you are primarily a democrat, not an American. 

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3 hours ago, fridge said:

 

The sheer hypocrisy of stating this now, and not after the absolute pillaging we witnessed during the Trump administration.

start. 

this crap is at least 2 decades and counting. its just getting more and more brazen.

 

 

 

 

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Is there anyone who has produced a full throated defense of this? Or is it literally just gerontocracy in action and any illusion of representation is gone?

19 hours ago, BillStime said:


Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle.
 

Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020?

 

smfh
 

 


you constantly respond to my posts with nonsense about trump. This is odd considering what I’ve said here about trump and the fact that trump was not nearly right enough for my taste. 
 

Congress began looting the treasury long ago, shortly after 9/11. You have no business talking about these things amongst adults. 

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15 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Is there anyone who has produced a full throated defense of this? Or is it literally just gerontocracy in action and any illusion of representation is gone?

 

Not a defense of this per se, but my understanding of why it happens:

 

We have a two-party system, which means that elections are zero-sum. You win, I lose and vice versa. As long as we have a first-past-the-post election system, it'll always be two parties, and it'll always be zero sum. Doesn't matter if we put in term limits, campaign finance reform, etc. So long as the goal of every candidate is securing a plurality of the votes against a single opponent, the other side will always be seen as the bad guy.

 

Governance is not supposed to be zero-sum. It's supposed to be negotiation, compromise and getting less of everything you want (and a little that you don't want) in exchange for actually making a difference. In the less polarized times, there were conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. There were urban conservatives and rural liberals. The rise of cable news, the internet, and social media has lead to geographical and ideological sorting. This has led to an almost unprecedented level of polarization.

 

So now zero-sum politics has infected the governance. Passing something when your team is in charge is bad for my team, even if the bill being passed is overall beneficial to my constituents. Therefore, I will vote against my constituents' interests to deny a win to the opposing team (of course, given that no bill is perfect, I will find some fig leaf of a provision, claim it is unacceptable, and blame your team for putting it in there). Regular order breaks down and whatever team is in charge just puts everything into a giant package, horse trades billions in earmarks, and rams it through at the last minute when the alternatives to not passing it are somehow worse than the bill itself.

 

If you're Mr. Smith who went to Washington, the end result of this is that you're given the following choice: vote for this monstrosity of a bill or potentially let the American economy collapse. What's the least bad option? Can you blame even the best-intentioned member of Congress from swallowing their pride and voting for this, vowing it'll be the last time (but knowing deep down in their heart that it won't)?

 

The only solution for this is electoral reform that returns the power to the people, not Washington, and creates incentives for cooperation, not invective polarization. But that would require those benefitting from the current system voting to replace it...

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Yesterday, @LeviF wrote this:

 

20 hours ago, LeviF said:

We’re in the “loot the treasury” phase of a republic. 

 

Now, the "adult" suffering dementia states this:

 

34 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Congress began looting the treasury long ago, shortly after 9/11. You have no business talking about these things amongst adults. 


You are a child hack.

 

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Here are the 18 Republicans who voted yes, according to the roll call vote:

Roy Blunt, Missouri

John Boozman, Arkansas

Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia

Susan Collins, Maine

John Cornyn, Texas

Tom Cotton, Arkansas

Lindsey Graham, South Carolina

Jim Inhofe, Oklahoma

Mitch McConnell, Kentucky

Jerry Moran, Kansas

Lisa Murkowski, Alaska

Rob Portman, Ohio

Mitt Romney, Utah

Mike Rounds, South Dakota

Richard Shelby, Alabama

John Thune, South Dakota

Roger Wicker, Mississippi

Todd Young, Indiana

 

 

 

Just awful.

The US money laundering operation rolls on.

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On 12/21/2022 at 11:14 PM, BillStime said:


Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle.
 

Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020?

 

smfh
 

 

 

But this has $1.71 TRILLION in it on top of the inflation that's already running rampant because of the over spending but that's okay just keep printing that money !

 

And most of the extra's have nothing to do with actually helping the American people only putting them deeper in the hole but hey this president is doing such a great job WTFE .

 

From 400k coming across the border in 2020 to 2.4 million in 2022 THE MOST EVER then what's the total spent since this moron has been in office in just 2 yrs this guy & all that voted for him & believe in him area bunch of MORONS !! 

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WOW if you set for a minute & think about it 🤔 if these 2 F tards team up they could really do a lot more damage than has been done already .

 

Talk about a scary thought OMG !! What's the opposite of brilliant minds think alike ???

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1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

Was taken back to read ACO was the only DEM house member to vote NO on that horrific omnibill BS..

 

 

 

Say what you will about "The Squad" but there's a few principles sprinkled amongst them, whether you agree with those principles or not.

 

AOC did help stuff this bill but balked at the ICE funding...can't have it both ways I suppose.

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6 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Say what you will about "The Squad" but there's a few principles sprinkled amongst them, whether you agree with those principles or not.

 

AOC did help stuff this bill but balked at the ICE funding...can't have it both ways I suppose.


exactly why term limits are critical. To your point new principles take time to erode. 
 

AOC is obnoxious imo but still at least believes her own bull ***** still

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