“Disinformation”

[Big Blitz]

This is officially the Establishment’s war on you.  They have no control over the narratives without Silicon Valley firmly in their corner.  
 

You have to understand how terrifying that is for them.  You’re to stupid to find information on your own and you’re easily duped.  While true for many, that’s not the government’s problem.  
 

They lost Twitter - and are now out to try and destroy and discredit it.  
 

“Disinformation” is basically 2 things:

 

1.  Their version of “fake news.”

 

2. Those aren’t Democrat talking points so it’s a lie 
 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Big Blitz

[ChiGoose]

How do you think we should combat the misinformation and ignorance that leads people to believe falsehoods like 2,000 Mules and that the Maricopa County tabulation machines were broken this week?

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

How do you think we should combat the misinformation and ignorance that leads people to believe falsehoods like 2,000 Mules and that the Maricopa County tabulation machines were broken this week?

 

Not care.  
 

Not your f…ing problem 

 

 

We live among 10s of millions of people that still think we’re slowing the spread.  
 

And that we can control the planet’s temperature.  

Edited November 12, 2022 by Big Blitz

[T master]

They just need to show pictures of US gov't officials meeting with Bin-laden & Sadam before they were made out to be the bad guys but that's the way the US gov't works first they support you then if you no longer want to be their puppet they kill you so you story of the US corruption can't be told .

 

Of course then there are those like Hillary that just let US politicians sit in a foreign country full of hostiles for 13+ hours to get killed before they send any help and then make excuses so it looks as if they are more incompetent than a crooked politician trying to cover their ass so the truth can't be told .

 

If you look through out the US history of foreign affairs you can find all kinds of crooked happening directly at the hands of our gov't yet we still in foolish fashion trust those we elect to hold high positions & some are elevated because of their past collaboration for corruption such as Romney, Rumsfeld, & Bush .

 

Misinformation at it's best !! 

Edited November 12, 2022 by T master

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Not care.  
 

Not your f…ing problem 

 

 

We live among 10s of millions of people that still think we’re slowing the spread.  
 

And that we can control the planet’s temperature.  

Wow. Just, wow. 
 

I wish I had less of a conscience because I could probably make a good chunk of change off of someone as gullible as you. 

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

Wow. Just, wow. 
 

I wish I had less of a conscience because I could probably make a good chunk of change off of someone as gullible as you. 

 

Just wow bro.  Just wow.  
 

Also what are you, 9?

[BillStime]

33 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

This is officially the Establishment’s war on you.  They have no control over the narrative’s without Silicon Valley firmly in their corner.  
 

You have to understand how terrifying that is for them.  You’re to stupid to find information on your own and you’re easily duped.  While true for many, that’s not the government’s problem.  
 

They lost Twitter - and are now out to try and destroy and discredit it.  
 

“Disinformation” is basically 2 things:

 

1.  Their version of “fake news.”

 

2. Those aren’t Democrat talking points so it’s a lie 
 

 

 

Take this to your safe place… thanks 

[BillStime]

@TSOL - you ok? lol

[SCBills]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

How do you think we should combat the misinformation and ignorance that leads people to believe falsehoods like 2,000 Mules and that the Maricopa County tabulation machines were broken this week?

Election was likely swayed in ‘20 because enough people were convinced Biden Laptop was Russian disinfo. 
 

People lost jobs, businesses and careers because of the lie that the vax stopped transmission. 
 

Nobody is actually focused on “disinformation”…. it’s simply an excuse to control the narrative. 

[ChiGoose]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Election was likely swayed in ‘20 because enough people were convinced Biden Laptop was Russian disinfo. 
 

People lost jobs, businesses and careers because of the lie that the vax stopped transmission. 
 

Nobody is actually focused on “disinformation”…. it’s simply an excuse to control the narrative. 

In 2016, the people on the Right called out liberals surprised by Trump as being in a bubble and they were right. 
 

I think the shoe is on the other foot now. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

How do you think we should combat the misinformation and ignorance that leads people to believe falsehoods like 2,000 Mules and that the Maricopa County tabulation machines were broken this week?

by letting them tell their story and then pointing out the holes. 
 

i miss the old Democratic Party that agreed people should have the right to say things that aren’t popular, and might not even be true. Steve Jobs said LSD was important in his journey to success. Should everyone go trip their balls of In lieu of an mba? 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

In 2016, the people on the Right called out liberals surprised by Trump as being in a bubble and they were right. 
 

I think the shoe is on the other foot now. 

Plenty of classical liberals also concerned by the emphasis on “disinformation”.  This isn’t just conservative Twitter. 
 

Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand to name a few. 
 

Edited November 13, 2022 by SCBills

[Big Blitz]

Government (primarily libs but it’s the UniParty now)and their media enablers want to control speech - it doesn’t matter what the f*** is true false fake right wrong it doesn’t matter it isn’t their job.  

 

Just because people watch CNN for “news” doesn’t mean we have a crisis that warrants government intervention in any way shape or form.

 

 

If the government is truly concerned about people getting misinformation, maybe they should start by asking why the hell we have a booming conservative media alternative to their b.s. in the first place.  
 

Even better - maybe the public schools have failed in teaching how to distinguish fact from opinion and credible vs not credible sources.  

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Government (primarily libs but it’s the UniParty now)and their media enablers want to control speech - it doesn’t matter what the f*** is true false fake right wrong it doesn’t matter it isn’t their job.  

 

Just because people watch CNN for “news” doesn’t mean we have a crisis that warrants government intervention in any way shape or form.

 

 

If the government is truly concerned about people getting misinformation, maybe they should start by asking why the hell we have a booming conservative media alternative to their b.s. in the first place.  
 

Even better - maybe the public schools have failed in teaching how to distinguish fact from opinion and credible vs not credible sources.  

Hochul campaigned on Zeldin taking away a womens right to choose in NY. 
 

He literally can’t as Governor.  It’s codified into law by the state legislature. 
 

Is that disinfo..  misinfo…?   People surely were misled by it.  Should the govt step in?  Should tech censor? 
 

 

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Hochul campaigned on Zeldin taking away a womens right to choose in NY. 
 

He literally can’t as Governor.  It’s codified into law by the state legislature. 
 

Is that disinfo..  misinfo…?   People surely were misled by it.  Should the govt step in?  Should tech censor? 
 

 

 

The media is supposed to do this - but since it’s state run and on the side of Democrats it doesn’t.  

 

Decades ago, Conservative media was born for precisely reasons like this.  
 

It sure has exploded since.  I can’t imagine why.  

 

If legacy media covered Ds like they relentlessly cover Rs …. political landscape would be just a tad different.  
 

 

The government has no place in claiming to be arbiters of truth. 
 

They’re in the Government.  Everything they say should rightfully be scrutinized and picked apart - left wing media right wing media social media - it’s not their job to start spinning anything as “truth.”  
 

They can’t even define a woman anymore.  But yea I’m really concerned about “disinformation.”
 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

The media is supposed to do this - but since it’s state run and on the side of Democrats it doesn’t.  

 

Decades ago, Conservative media was born for precisely reasons like this.  
 

It sure has exploded since.  I can’t imagine why.  

 

If legacy media covered Ds like they relentlessly cover Rs …. political landscape would be just a tad different.  
 

 

The government has no place in claiming to be arbiters of truth. 
 

They’re in the Government.  Everything they say should rightfully be scrutinized and picked apart - left wing media right wing media social media - it’s not their job to start spinning anything as “truth.”  
 

They can’t even define a woman anymore.  But yea I’m really concerned about “disinformation.”
 

 

 

 

Tissue?

 

Or do you need a mask?

[Big Blitz]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Tissue?

 

Or do you need a mask?

 

Do you?  Too many facts for you?

 

Run my posts thru CNN Fact Check for accuracy.  You’ll find your worst nightmare - logic.  

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Do you?  Too many facts for you?

 

Run my posts thru CNN Fact Check for accuracy.  You’ll find your worst nightmare - logic.  

Awe - you’re the one dealing w loss - I hope you will be okay. Maybe double mask?

 

 

[JaCrispy]

56 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Plenty of classical liberals also concerned by the emphasis on “disinformation”.  This isn’t just conservative Twitter. 
 

Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand to name a few. 
 

Those two guys are great- and they certainly have no love for Trump and the Republicans…they simply call a spade a spade, and aren’t beholden to one team or another…👍

Edited November 13, 2022 by JaCrispy

[SCBills]

 

[JaCrispy]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

I still remember when the Left called Bush a Nazi…

 

Oh well…Bush was always a Military Industrial Complex guy anyway- a NeoCon, just like Obama and Biden…So, it makes sense that they are all teaming up now…

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Anything to distract from the fact that the Dems just clinched control of the Senate.

 

#winning

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

I still remember when the Left called Bush a Nazi…

 

Oh well…Bush was always a Military Industrial Complex guy anyway- a NeoCon, just like Obama and Biden…So, it makes sense that they are all teaming up now…

Obama and Bush teaming up is the most alarming thing I’ve ever seen. If they are the same team it really is elites vs the rest

[KDIGGZ]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Anything to distract from the fact that the Dems just clinched control of the Senate.

 

#winning

The Dems had the Senate, Congress, President for the past 2 years. I don't think anyone is "winning"

[BillStime]

Just now, KDIGGZ said:

The Dems had the Senate, Congress, President for the past 2 years. I don't think anyone is "winning"

Yeah - the Dems delivered.

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

Only a masochist would want 2 more years of this.

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Obama and Bush teaming up is the most alarming thing I’ve ever seen. If they are the same team it really is elites vs the rest

[Capco]

This thread is full of the crazy kind of stupid that I remember PPP for.  

It's just the beginning of the Red Wave of Tears, too.  

If the Dems miraculously manage to hold the House, these tears will only get sweeter.  

[BillStime]

12 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Only a masochist would want 2 more years of this.

[JaCrispy]

14 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Only a masochist would want 2 more years of this.

…Like a woman that keeps going back to her abusive husband…😉

 

Govern me harder, daddy! 🤣

 

 

Edited November 13, 2022 by JaCrispy

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

…Like a woman that keeps going back to her abusive husband…😉

 

Govern me harder, daddy! 🤣

 

 

If this is what you truly believe, now might be a good time to step out of your bubble. 

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, Capco said:

This thread is full of the crazy kind of stupid that I remember PPP for.  

It's just the beginning of the Red Wave of Tears, too.  

If the Dems miraculously manage to hold the House, these tears will only get sweeter.  

Might be the best thing for the GOP. 
 

Bad for the country… but come ‘24, Dems will have nobody to blame but themselves, GOP will (hopefully) have soul-searched and found new leadership, and y’all will have to go up against DeSantis with a ‘24 Congressional map that is brutal for Dems.  
 

Sweep DeSantis into office with a GOP House and Senate. 
 

You may think that’s crazy… but deep down, you know this is a somewhat probable outcome. 
 

Edited November 13, 2022 by SCBills

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Might be the best thing for the GOP. 
 

Bad for the country… but come ‘24, Dems will have nobody to blame but themselves, GOP will (hopefully) have soul-searched and found new leadership, and y’all will have to go up against DeSantis with a ‘24 Congressional map that is brutal for Dems.  
 

Sweep DeSantis into office with a GOP House and Senate. 
 

You may think that’s crazy… but deep down, you know this is a somewhat probably outcome. 

The country rejected you.

 

It’s real bad for you.

[SCBills]

Just now, BillStime said:

The country rejected you.

 

It’s real bad for you.

I’m in the Southeast.. I’m doing fine.  We’ve got nice weather, low taxes, ocean beaches and competent Republican Governors. 
 

I’ll be welcoming more of my Long Island friends down here after the holidays as a few more have decided to make the move after this last election. 
 

 

[Big Blitz]

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Might be the best thing for the GOP. 
 

Bad for the country… but come ‘24, Dems will have nobody to blame but themselves, GOP will (hopefully) have soul-searched and found new leadership, and y’all will have to go up against DeSantis with a ‘24 Congressional map that is brutal for Dems.  
 

Sweep DeSantis into office with a GOP House and Senate. 
 

You may think that’s crazy… but deep down, you know this is a somewhat probable outcome. 
 

 

So long as the House isn’t stolen as well this isn’t the worst thing in the world.  DC was already at a standstill anyway.  
 

Ds have 23 seats to defend in 24.  Rs only 10

 

3 of those D seats are Montana Ohio and West Virginia.  And 5 more Biden won in those states less then 5 points.  DC will be at a standstill another 2 years and that’s just fine.  

 

All key races were razor thin.  I hope not….but everything is going to get worse economically because common sense.  And yes Dobbs helped - but it was worth it.  And SCOTUS is still 6-3 conservative.  

 

 

The GOPs future starts now.  Revolutions are messy and the Trump revolution needs to find a way to move on post Trump and a base that isn’t the base of GW Bush in 2004.  
 

 

[JaCrispy]

13 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

If this is what you truly believe, now might be a good time to step out of your bubble. 

Sorry man, but I just have major disagreements with the current Dem agenda…it’s really difficult to see anything beneficial coming from it, at the moment…

[Big Blitz]

Fraud.  Perceptions of fraud - just as bad.  

[BillStime]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

Fraud.  Perceptions of fraud - just as bad.  

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

So long as the House isn’t stolen as well this isn’t the worst thing in the world.  DC was already at a standstill anyway.  
 

Ds have 23 seats to defend in 24.  Rs only 10

 

3 of those D seats are Montana Ohio and West Virginia.  And 5 more Biden won in those states less then 5 points.  DC will be at a standstill another 2 years and that’s just fine.  

 

All key races were razor thin.  I hope not….but everything is going to get worse economically because common sense.  And yes Dobbs helped - but it was worth it.  And SCOTUS is still 6-3 conservative.  

 

 

The GOPs future starts now.  Revolutions are messy and the Trump revolution needs to find a way to move on post Trump and a base that isn’t the base of GW Bush in 2004.  
 

 

Completely agree with all of this.  
 

GOP needs to purge itself of Trump’s personality and Bush’s policies. 
 

Embrace culture wars in the mold of DeSantis and Youngkin.
 

Become the party of white working class, hispanics and small business owners, while increasing their gains this midterm with black men (Georgia) and Muslims (Michigan). 
 

Focus on election reform and build machines to churn out EV like the Dems have mastered. 

[ChiGoose]

7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Sorry man, but I just have major disagreements with the current Dem agenda…it’s really difficult to see anything beneficial coming from it, at the moment…

 

That’s sorta my point.
 

In 2016, many Dems were shocked that people would vote for Trump, someone they saw as completely unfit for the job with terrible ideas.

 

Now, in an election set up as a slam dunk for the GOP, the people have rejected the Republican Party. Might be worth trying to see things from their perspective just to see where they are coming from.