Impact of Dobbs and Abortion Laws

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Littig said almost the same thing but went further.  "There is no Republican party"  Coulter's a wench and wouldn't be saying such things if trump didn't disown her.  But it's true.

Yes but he said it on CNN so it’s not legit. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Pokebball said:

Has Armageddon begun? Billsy's in line with Ann Coulter!

 

Coulter is still around? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Is Dana running for something?  Maybe she forgot.  If not, isn't your stance that lying is protected free speech?

[BillStime]

Please do - build on it 

 

 

[SCBills]

As someone that is personally pro-life, it’s gross that it has to be this way.. but it is…

 

Republicans have got to chill on this topic.   Overturning Roe was a shock to the system, and going for the jugular isn’t the move.  
 

Most Americans believe in protections for unborn life at some point in the second trimester.  They become uncomfortable with talk of bans, strict 6 week limits and random initiatives like in Ohio.  
 

R’s can win while being pro-life, but focusing on it will constantly backfire.

 

Kemp passed a heartbeat ban, then won in a landslide.  
 

DeWine, in the above referenced Ohio passed a similar law, and then also won in a landslide. 
 

Take a step back. Chill out. And work on messaging.  Because the media will run cover for Dems (we just saw it in the DeSantis interview) and right now, Republicans are taking it on the chin in both messaging and energy on this issue. 
 

Democrats are struggling on the economy, the border, crime and .. for the first time in my life .. Republicans are winning the culture wars, but Dems will summon the powers of Moloch and drown out all those advantages in ‘24 if R’s can’t counter/negate them on this. 
 

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by SCBills

[Doc]

36 minutes ago, SCBills said:

As someone that is personally pro-life, it’s gross that it has to be this way.. but it is…

 

Republicans have got to chill on this topic.   Overturning Roe was a shock to the system, and going for the jugular isn’t the move.  
 

Most Americans believe in protections for unborn life at some point in the second trimester.  They become uncomfortable with talk of bans, strict 6 week limits and random initiatives like in Ohio.  
 

R’s can win while being pro-life, but focusing on it will constantly backfire.

 

Kemp passed a heartbeat ban, then won in a landslide.  
 

DeWine, in the above referenced Ohio passed a similar law, and then also won in a landslide. 
 

Take a step back. Chill out. And work on messaging.  Because the media will run cover for Dems (we just saw it in the DeSantis interview) and right now, Republicans are taking it on the chin in both messaging and energy on this issue. 
 

Democrats are struggling on the economy, the border, crime and .. for the first time in my life .. Republicans are winning the culture wars, but Dems will summon the powers of Moloch and drown out all those advantages in ‘24 if R’s can’t counter/negate them on this.

 

And like I said, if aborting a baby in the 3rd trimester is the most important topic in most peoples' lives, we're ***** as a country.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

As someone that is personally pro-life, it’s gross that it has to be this way.. but it is…

 

Republicans have got to chill on this topic.   Overturning Roe was a shock to the system, and going for the jugular isn’t the move.  
 

Most Americans believe in protections for unborn life at some point in the second trimester.  They become uncomfortable with talk of bans, strict 6 week limits and random initiatives like in Ohio.  
 

R’s can win while being pro-life, but focusing on it will constantly backfire.

 

Kemp passed a heartbeat ban, then won in a landslide.  
 

DeWine, in the above referenced Ohio passed a similar law, and then also won in a landslide. 
 

Take a step back. Chill out. And work on messaging.  Because the media will run cover for Dems (we just saw it in the DeSantis interview) and right now, Republicans are taking it on the chin in both messaging and energy on this issue. 
 

Democrats are struggling on the economy, the border, crime and .. for the first time in my life .. Republicans are winning the culture wars, but Dems will summon the powers of Moloch and drown out all those advantages in ‘24 if R’s can’t counter/negate them on this. 
 

 

they'll follow trump's lead.  Think he'll fold?  This  is the R repeating dilemma.  Do you want part of your wishes or none.  Disown him...

Edited August 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillStime]

41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

And like I said, if aborting a baby in the 3rd trimester is the most important topic in most peoples' lives, we're ***** as a country.

Please stop - you don’t give a F about this. If you did - you would also support forced vasectomies.

 

Hey “Doc” - what does it say about all these Republicans crossing over and voting against these abortion bans? 
 

South Carolina

Nebraska

Kansas

Montana

Ohio

Are they RHINOS? Never Trumpers? 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

FU Texas - you 💩hole state

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

28 minutes ago, BillStime said:

FU Texas - you 💩hole state

 

 

This particular story is the red line for you? Seems like an odd set of circumstances. I’m not commenting on who’s right and who’s wrong here, but this seems like a cherry picked outlier….not systemic in any way. 

[TSOL]

31 minutes ago, BillStime said:

FU Texas - you 💩hole state

 

 

 

 

This is really tragic and goes beyond any political statement to be made. I know that hindsight is 20/20, but it sounds like she should have called her husband to come pick her up once she knew she was going into labor. Forget the job, just get to the hospital. This is her child, it's more important than any job. 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

This is really tragic and goes beyond any political statement to be made. I know that hindsight is 20/20, but it sounds like she should have called her husband to come pick her up once she knew she was going into labor. Forget the job, just get to the hospital. This is her child, it's more important than any job. 

But why is this story about abortion? 

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

This particular story is the red line for you? Seems like an odd set of circumstances. I’m not commenting on who’s right and who’s wrong here, but this seems like a cherry picked outlier….not systemic in any way. 

A state passes laws that place bounties on women seeking an abortion and anyone who assists TO saying the fetus has no rights.

 

I’m sorry you don’t see the hypocrisy but I’m not surprised.

 

It’s not about the baby - it’s about control.

[TSOL]

5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

But why is this story about abortion? 

 

 

Who knows, It's billstime, up is down and down is up with him*. Don't try to figure her out 

Edited August 12, 2023 by TSOL

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, BillStime said:

A state passes laws that place bounties on women seeking an abortion and anyone who assists TO saying the fetus has no rights.

 

I’m sorry you don’t see the hypocrisy but I’m not surprised.

 

It’s not about the baby - it’s about control.

Huh? The story says she had a stillborn baby because she stayed at work. I apologize but I don’t see what this has to do with abortion. And if she ultimately didn’t want a baby, it appears in the end, she doesn’t have one. 

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

This is really tragic and goes beyond any political statement to be made. I know that hindsight is 20/20, but it sounds like she should have called her husband to come pick her up once she knew she was going into labor. Forget the job, just get to the hospital. This is her child, it's more important than any job. 

She couldn’t leave until someone relieved her - this had nothing to do with her husband. 

 

Seven months pregnant, Issa said she quickly alerted her supervisors. She told them she needed to go to the hospital but knew prison policy wouldn’t allow her to leave her post until someone could replace her.

 

No one came for hours.

 

Issa kept calling for relief, but her supervisor repeatedly refused her, even telling her she was lying, according to a federal lawsuit filed against the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and prison officials.

You just want to go home,” the supervisor allegedly told her.

 

[TSOL]

Just now, BillStime said:

She couldn’t leave until someone relieved her - this had nothing to do with her husband. 

 

Seven months pregnant, Issa said she quickly alerted her supervisors. She told them she needed to go to the hospital but knew prison policy wouldn’t allow her to leave her post until someone could replace her.

 

No one came for hours.

 

Issa kept calling for relief, but her supervisor repeatedly refused her, even telling her she was lying, according to a federal lawsuit filed against the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and prison officials.

You just want to go home,” the supervisor allegedly told her.

 

   

My point is she could have just left on her own accord., it's a medical emergency she was pregnant, hers and the unborn babys life is more important than the job. 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Huh? The story says she had a stillborn baby because she stayed at work. I apologize but I don’t see what this has to do with abortion. And if she ultimately didn’t want a baby, it appears in the end, she doesn’t have one. 

For a state obsessed about passing abortion laws and placing bounties on women seeking an abortion - why don’t they care about those looking to  keep their child?

 

I hope she sues the F out of them.

Just now, TSOL said:

   

My point is she could have just left on her own accord., it's a medical emergency she was pregnant, hers and the unborn babys life is more important than the job. 

She should have but she also prob needed the income. 
 

Just pathetic and expected in a red 💩 hole state.

 

 

[TSOL]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

For a state obsessed about passing abortion laws and placing bounties on women seeking an abortion - why don’t they care about those looking to  keep their child?

 

I hope she sues the F out of them.

She should have but she also prob needed the income. 
 

Just pathetic and expected in a red 💩 hole state.

 

 

 

Not everything is political, it's tragic that she had to go through this. Why don't you take a minute to feel for an actual person's tragedy instead of using a tragic event to politicize a point. Who cares if it happened in Texas or Massachusetts she lost her baby because of a series of mistakes.