Is Gender Ideology a RELIGION built like a house of cards?

[aristocrat]

6 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

"Naturally"

 

That sums up the whole thing in a nutshell. How about: keep your morals for you and yours. Stop telling other people that they must live by your code. In fact, if you started following your own book, the world would be a much better place for all of the people you now disparage.

 

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

 

Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

 

You effers never practice what you preach. You use your religion, a-la-carte, cherry picking bits and pieces, seemingly to impose your will on others.

 

So I'm literally saying let the kids develop into whatever gender or be whatever sexuality and not force it on them and you have a problem with that?  Do you not see you are imposing your will on the kids?  I have zero issue with the community and have a very close family member who early on in high school that has gone from female to male. No drugs, no surgery until he's of age as he feels that's the safest way to do this. I will cover whatever cost of the surgery is necessary as I don't want him going to the cheapest doc on the block and gets a poor job done. 

[Gene Frenkle]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So in your world view men should be allowed in womens’ restroom? Because that’s what they want to do? You see, the point is that nobody cares what you do in private, assuming you’re not hurting someone else, but the minute you start bringing your ‘secular’ fairly take out into the public eye you’re going to rightfully get big time push back. 

 

Secular fairy tale. 😆

 

What great claims does lack of religion bring? That we hypothesize, observe, make conclusions and adjust our beliefs based on evidence? Better that than the unbending words written nearly 2000 years ago.

 

Why are you so focused on restrooms? I feel like we can navigate that one as a society. It's certain no argument for imposing "correct" morals on others.

 

Freedom ain't free!!! We may have to build some more Port-a-Potty's, but not with MUH tax dollars!!!  'Merica.

6 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

So I'm literally saying let the kids develop into whatever gender or be whatever sexuality and not force it on them and you have a problem with that?  Do you not see you are imposing your will on the kids?  I have zero issue with the community and have a very close family member who early on in high school that has gone from female to male. No drugs, no surgery until he's of age as he feels that's the safest way to do this. I will cover whatever cost of the surgery is necessary as I don't want him going to the cheapest doc on the block and gets a poor job done. 

 

Nobody's forcing anyone. They're just being exposed to the idea that people are different. They're being taught to be accepting of that. This is a good message and just because it wasn't the message when we were impressionable doesn't make it wrong. You have one view of things. Others don't. You don't need to tell them what to do.

 

Raise your kids as you like and let others do the same.

[Boatdrinks]

23 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Secular fairy tale. 😆

 

What great claims does lack of religion bring? That we hypothesize, observe, make conclusions and adjust our beliefs based on evidence? Better that than the unbending words written nearly 2000 years ago.

 

Why are you so focused on restrooms? I feel like we can navigate that one as a society. It's certain no argument for imposing "correct" morals on others.

 

Freedom ain't free!!! We may have to build some more Port-a-Potty's, but not with MUH tax dollars!!!  'Merica.

 

Nobody's forcing anyone. They're just being exposed to the idea that people are different. They're being taught to be accepting of that. This is a good message and just because it wasn't the message when we were impressionable doesn't make it wrong. You have one view of things. Others don't. You don't need to tell them what to do.

 

Raise your kids as you like and let others do the same.

Absolutely untrue. Simply accepting differences is not enough for Libs. You must celebrate and encourage alternative lifestyles ; otherwise you are being “phobic” or a “ hater”. Requiring a few basics for an orderly society -such as using the restroom appropriate for your genitalia - is not asking much. It’s still too much for the lefty loonies. No religion here- I’m an atheist - but common sense is uncommon with todays libs. 

[SoCal Deek]

30 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Secular fairy tale. 😆

 

What great claims does lack of religion bring? That we hypothesize, observe, make conclusions and adjust our beliefs based on evidence? Better that than the unbending words written nearly 2000 years ago.

 

Why are you so focused on restrooms? I feel like we can navigate that one as a society. It's certain no argument for imposing "correct" morals on others.

 

Freedom ain't free!!! We may have to build some more Port-a-Potty's, but not with MUH tax dollars!!!  'Merica.

 

Nobody's forcing anyone. They're just being exposed to the idea that people are different. They're being taught to be accepting of that. This is a good message and just because it wasn't the message when we were impressionable doesn't make it wrong. You have one view of things. Others don't. You don't need to tell them what to do.

 

Raise your kids as you like and let others do the same.

Gene…if I’m not asking you to go to church with me, why does the secular orthodoxy demand that I go to church with them? Like YOU said, raise your kids anyway you want, but leave mine out of it. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

23 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Absolutely untrue. Simply accepting differences is not enough for Libs. You must celebrate and encourage alternative lifestyles ; otherwise you are being “phobic” or a “ hater”. Requiring a few basics for an orderly society -such as using the restroom appropriate for your genitalia - is not asking much. It’s still too much for the lefty loonies. No religion here- I’m an atheist - but common sense is uncommon with todays libs. 

It’s not about common sense and it’s everything about forcing their views on you and if you don’t agree you’re the problem. It is 100% like a religious zealot forcing views on others.
 

It’s just a different religion called liberalism and just like many other religious disciples, they think their religion makes them better than you. 

[Gene Frenkle]

27 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Absolutely untrue. Simply accepting differences is not enough for Libs. You must celebrate and encourage alternative lifestyles ; otherwise you are being “phobic” or a “ hater”. Requiring a few basics for an orderly society -such as using the restroom appropriate for your genitalia - is not asking much. It’s still too much for the lefty loonies. No religion here- I’m an atheist - but common sense is uncommon with todays libs. 

 

Nobody's making you do *****.

25 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Gene…if I’m not asking you to go to church with me, why does the secular orthodoxy demand that I go to church with them? Like YOU said, raise your kids anyway you want, but leave mine out of it. 

 

You have options. Use them. Raise your kids as you see fit and allow others to do the same.

[Gene Frenkle]

 

What you don't understand or are unwilling to accept is that this is what future generations are choosing and this is how it will be. Old people don't get to choose this on their way out. They had their choices in their time and their generations made those choices. Those choices directly led us here. At some point you get a bit set in your ways and comfortable and now everything is just as it should be. But time doesn't stop for you. The zeitgeist moves forward with or without you until you die and even then it still keeps going. Dig your heels in to try to stop it or watch it evolve and try to understand it. The choice is yours, but the latter may lead to less grumpiness and frustration.

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Secular fairy tale. 😆

 

What great claims does lack of religion bring? That we hypothesize, observe, make conclusions and adjust our beliefs based on evidence? Better that than the unbending words written nearly 2000 years ago.

 

Why are you so focused on restrooms? I feel like we can navigate that one as a society. It's certain no argument for imposing "correct" morals on others.

 

Freedom ain't free!!! We may have to build some more Port-a-Potty's, but not with MUH tax dollars!!!  'Merica.

 

Nobody's forcing anyone. They're just being exposed to the idea that people are different. They're being taught to be accepting of that. This is a good message and just because it wasn't the message when we were impressionable doesn't make it wrong. You have one view of things. Others don't. You don't need to tell them what to do.

 

Raise your kids as you like and let others do the same.

 

[Gene Frenkle]

5 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

 

Yeah, I'm not letting my kids go to that if they're little. In my opinion, that would be bad parenting.

 

It's still not my place to tell others how to raise their children.

 

It's peak hypocrisy to ban abortions and then tell other people how to raise their children.

[wnyguy]

3 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Yeah, I'm not letting my kids go to that if they're little. In my opinion, that would be bad parenting.

 

It's still not my place to tell others how to raise their children.

 

It's peak hypocrisy to ban abortions and then tell other people how to raise their children.

So you have no problem seeing small children, toddlers, being exposed to things like this. Whatever, right?

[Gene Frenkle]

Just now, wnyguy said:

So you have no problem seeing small children, toddlers, being exposed to things like this. Whatever, right?

 

I don't like this example, but this example is shown because it is extreme and is meant to illicit a response.

 

IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO TELL ANYONE HOW TO RAISE THEIR CHILD.

 

Now if a crime were being committed, that would be a different thing. Law vs. morals. Get it? Put your outrage into helping to pass a law if you care so much.

 

Nobody cares about your morals.

[wnyguy]

10 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

I don't like this example, but this example is shown because it is extreme and is meant to illicit a response.

 

IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO TELL ANYONE HOW TO RAISE THEIR CHILD.

 

Now if a crime were being committed, that would be a different thing. Law vs. morals. Get it? Put your outrage into helping to pass a law if you care so much.

 

Nobody cares about your morals.

At least I have morals and if I had seen what was shown here I would be compelled to react not just say, "Oh well, it's not my kid." 

[aristocrat]

16 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

I don't like this example, but this example is shown because it is extreme and is meant to illicit a response.

 

IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO TELL ANYONE HOW TO RAISE THEIR CHILD.

 

Now if a crime were being committed, that would be a different thing. Law vs. morals. Get it? Put your outrage into helping to pass a law if you care so much.

 

Nobody cares about your morals.

 

Nobody is forcing it on the kids!

 

https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-drag-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/

 

New York is showering taxpayer funds on a group that sends drag queens into city schools — often without parental knowledge or consent — even as parents in other states protest increasingly aggressive efforts to expose kids to gender-bending performers.

Last month alone, Drag Story Hour NYC — a nonprofit whose outrageously cross-dressed performers interact with kids as young as 3 — earned $46,000 from city contracts for appearances at public schools, street festivals, and libraries, city records show.

Since January, the group has organized 49 drag programs in 34 public elementary, middle, and high schools, it boasted on its website, with appearances in all five boroughs.

[Gene Frenkle]

14 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

At least I have morals and if I had seen what was shown here I would be compelled to react not just say, "Oh well, it's not my kid." 

 

The whole point is that morals are arbitrary at some point. Your morals are not the same as another person's morals. Yours are not objectively correct.

14 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Nobody is forcing it on the kids!

 

https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-drag-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/

 

New York is showering taxpayer funds on a group that sends drag queens into city schools — often without parental knowledge or consent — even as parents in other states protest increasingly aggressive efforts to expose kids to gender-bending performers.

Last month alone, Drag Story Hour NYC — a nonprofit whose outrageously cross-dressed performers interact with kids as young as 3 — earned $46,000 from city contracts for appearances at public schools, street festivals, and libraries, city records show.

Since January, the group has organized 49 drag programs in 34 public elementary, middle, and high schools, it boasted on its website, with appearances in all five boroughs.

 

Complain to your school board. Complain to your representatives. Vote them out.

[Gene Frenkle]

 

Why are you people so scared of Trannies? They're probably not into you or your kids anyway.

 

I wouldn't let Matt Gaetz near your kids if I were you tho! JMO

[wnyguy]

6 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

The whole point is that morals are arbitrary at some point. Your morals are not the same as another person's morals. Yours are not objectively correct.

 

 

I know what wrong looks like. That you have no problem with it is astounding. 

[Gene Frenkle]

1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

I know what wrong looks like. That you have no problem with it is astounding. 

 

Nope. You don't. The fact that you think you do, objectively, is the problem.

[aristocrat]

19 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Why are you people so scared of Trannies? They're probably not into you or your kids anyway.

 

I wouldn't let Matt Gaetz near your kids if I were you tho! JMO

nobody is scared of them. Just don’t want kids going to drag events.  Don’t you know the difference? 

[Gene Frenkle]

Just now, aristocrat said:

nobody is scared of them. Just don’t want kids going to drag events.  Don’t you know the difference? 

 

Then don't send your kids to drag events.

 

You get some level of control over your own kids for about 18 years. That's it, nothing more. Deal with it.

[aristocrat]

23 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Then don't send your kids to drag events.

 

You get some level of control over your own kids for about 18 years. That's it, nothing more. Deal with it.

No kids at drag events. As in not just mine but not any kids. Let’s have some values