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13 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Which cities did they burn down, Irv? Seems like all our cities are present and accounted for. 
 

 

Cry harder! Oath Keepers are the same kind of filth we slapped around in World War II. We did it before and I’ll happily do it again. 


2 billion in damage, more than 25 dead. Anyone that participated in any part of it. How much damage was done 1-6?  Few million? 

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52 minutes ago, aristocrat said:


2 billion in damage, more than 25 dead. Anyone that participated in any part of it. How much damage was done 1-6?  Few million? 

 

And our cities are safe and sound. 

 

Rioting is not a crime at the same level as actively trying to overthrow a democratic election. Right-wingers love to do this because they can't handle being the bad guys. 

 

The fact that you guys have to desperately cling to riots that happened three years ago to deflect from your side trying to prevent Trump's loss by invading the U.S. Capitol is just utterly pathetic. 

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1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

 

And our cities are safe and sound. 

 

Rioting is not a crime at the same level as actively trying to overthrow a democratic election. Right-wingers love to do this because they can't handle being the bad guys. 

 

The fact that you guys have to desperately cling to riots that happened three years ago to deflect from your side trying to prevent Trump's loss by invading the U.S. Capitol is just utterly pathetic. 

 

cities are safe and sound? come again?  after the riots how many departments were defunded? laws changed? people taken out of power which now you see has resulted in the cities being much less safer and dangerous for citizens. are we less safe or more safe after 1-6?  no. nothing changed cause it didnt matter. you supported riots that actually have had a devastating effect on this society. the fact that you support that is ridiculous

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There is obviously also differences in offense levels between Federal crimes against the government vs State level crimes against property. Any common criminal knows you don’t want to face federal crimes. The J6ers didn’t think about that one. As they say… you can’t cure stupid.

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51 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

And our cities are safe and sound. 

 

Rioting is not a crime at the same level as actively trying to overthrow a democratic election. Right-wingers love to do this because they can't handle being the bad guys. 

 

The fact that you guys have to desperately cling to riots that happened three years ago to deflect from your side trying to prevent Trump's loss by invading the U.S. Capitol is just utterly pathetic. 

 

The sand called.  It wants your head out of there.  Some loser in face paint wearing a Viking hat was going to take over the country?   Yeah right.  You can't be that dumb/ignorant.  Laughable.  What a mess.    

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54 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

And our cities are safe and sound. 

 

Rioting is not a crime at the same level as actively trying to overthrow a democratic election. Right-wingers love to do this because they can't handle being the bad guys. 

 

The fact that you guys have to desperately cling to riots that happened three years ago to deflect from your side trying to prevent Trump's loss by invading the U.S. Capitol is just utterly pathetic. 

LMAO.  by all actual statistics, no. Not safe or sound. 

 

According to the most recent data from the FBI, the total crime rate in Buffalo is 4,098.5 per 100,000 people. That's 74.70% higher than the national rate of 2,346.0 per 100,000 people and 130.97% higher than the New York total crime rate of 1,774.5 per 100,000 people

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

LMAO.  by all actual statistics, no. Not safe or sound. 

 

According to the most recent data from the FBI, the total crime rate in Buffalo is 4,098.5 per 100,000 people. That's 74.70% higher than the national rate of 2,346.0 per 100,000 people and 130.97% higher than the New York total crime rate of 1,774.5 per 100,000 people

 

 

What a mess.  

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26 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

LMAO.  by all actual statistics, no. Not safe or sound. 

 

According to the most recent data from the FBI, the total crime rate in Buffalo is 4,098.5 per 100,000 people. That's 74.70% higher than the national rate of 2,346.0 per 100,000 people and 130.97% higher than the New York total crime rate of 1,774.5 per 100,000 people

 

 

 

What does it have to do with the 2020 riots? As far as I'm concerned, the Buffalo PD is not particularly interested in solving the matter no matter how much money we chuck at them. 

 

3 minutes ago, Irv said:

What a mess.  

 

Do you have anything useful to add to the conversation, or are you gonna just keep copy/pasting the same thing over and over?

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

cities are safe and sound? come again?  after the riots how many departments were defunded?

 

None. https://therealnews.com/nobody-defunded-the-police-a-study "Police departments got the same average cut of the city budget in 2021 as they did in previous years."

 

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

people taken out of power which now you see has resulted in the cities being much less safer and dangerous for citizens.

 

People such as who? See above. 

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

are we less safe or more safe after 1-6?  no. nothing changed cause it didnt matter.

 

You must have brain worms if you think that January 6 wasn't one of the scariest days for democracy in U.S. history. 

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

you supported riots that actually have had a devastating effect on this society. the fact that you support that is ridiculous

 

I do not "support" riots, but I also don't delude myself into thinking that cities were destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. 

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5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

What does it have to do with the 2020 riots? As far as I'm concerned, the Buffalo PD is not particularly interested in solving the matter no matter how much money we chuck at them. 

 

 

Do you have anything useful to add to the conversation, or are you gonna just keep copy/pasting the same thing over and over?

 

None. https://therealnews.com/nobody-defunded-the-police-a-study "Police departments got the same average cut of the city budget in 2021 as they did in previous years."

 

 

People such as who? See above. 

 

You must have brain worms if you think that January 6 wasn't one of the scariest days for democracy in U.S. history. 

 

I do not "support" riots, but I also don't delude myself into thinking that cities were destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. 

 

I take that back.  You are that dumb/ignorant.  What a mess.

 

  

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8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

What does it have to do with the 2020 riots? As far as I'm concerned, the Buffalo PD is not particularly interested in solving the matter no matter how much money we chuck at them. 

 

 

Do you have anything useful to add to the conversation, or are you gonna just keep copy/pasting the same thing over and over?

 

None. https://therealnews.com/nobody-defunded-the-police-a-study "Police departments got the same average cut of the city budget in 2021 as they did in previous years."

 

 

People such as who? See above. 

 

You must have brain worms if you think that January 6 wasn't one of the scariest days for democracy in U.S. history. 

 

I do not "support" riots, but I also don't delude myself into thinking that cities were destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. 

 

jan 6 was not even top 20 in scariest incidents in us history maybe even 100. at no point was democracy at risk at any point that day. cities were rebuilt...thats what happened but to claim they didnt cause billions in damage is laughable. dozens of people died in the riots. what do you think of those people who died in the riots? 

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Capitol police stood by and watched "insurrectionists" waltz right past them into the Capitol and in some cases even escorted them around the building in order to allow dangerous insurrectionists into the senate chamber itself...

 

True 9/11 flight 93 level stuff as brave officers offered zero resistance to bloodthirsty terrorists who ultimately left the building when asked to leave.

 

You leftist commies are beyond moronic.

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35 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

 

You must have brain worms if you think that January 6 wasn't one of the scariest days for democracy in U.S. history. 

 

This is, perhaps, the funniest post I have ever read.  To think that a bunch of unarmed trespassers could usurp this republic is ludicrous. ridiculous, laughable, illogical and downright preposterous. 

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6 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

This is, perhaps, the funniest post I have ever read.  To think that a bunch of unarmed trespassers could usurp this republic is ludicrous. ridiculous, laughable, illogical and downright preposterous. 

They were told to believe it, so it's gotta be true! Politicians don't lie, comon man!

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17 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

This is, perhaps, the funniest post I have ever read.  To think that a bunch of unarmed trespassers could usurp this republic is ludicrous. ridiculous, laughable, illogical and downright preposterous. 

 

That's how stupid these people are.  I know it is hard to believe. 

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17 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

This is, perhaps, the funniest post I have ever read.  To think that a bunch of unarmed trespassers could usurp this republic is ludicrous. ridiculous, laughable, illogical and downright preposterous. 

 

That sharp as a tack POTUS Biden even told us that you need fighter jets to take down the government, but it turns out that all you really need are a rag tag bunch of  unarmed overweight 50 something LARPers, allowed into theCapitol unopposed, to threaten to topple the most powerful nation in the history of man.

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7 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

It appears the reality is the FBI targeted somebody they didn't like and participated in the planning and execution of the plot then set these guys up to take the fall while hiding the extent of their involvement from the public, the court, and the defense.  Like the glass repair guy going around at night smashing store windows then fixing them the next day.  Manufacturing business.  For the FBI, manufacturing extremist plots.  But since they refuse to answer any questions or provide any clarity around the specifics of their involvement the entire story has yet to be told.  The Federal Bureau of Investigation has become the Federal Bureau of Instigation.

 

To be clear, are you saying that the folks who have been tried and convicted should not have been and that you would be in favor of their being pardoned, as Trump has already said he will do?

7 hours ago, Chris farley said:

talking facts/reality. it's you and yours stating it, right here in this thread.

 

 

 

Since a few Trump supporters actually posted that here, it's pretty stupid to say that the other side is posting it, but......

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1 minute ago, Kemp said:

 

To be clear, are you saying that the folks who have been tried and convicted should not have been and that you would be in favor of their being pardoned, as Trump has already said he will do?

I don't know about All Pro, but I am saying it.

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47 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

I don't know about All Pro, but I am saying it.

 

So, jury trial convictions should now be tossed if you don't like them.

And Trump supporters believe they're for law and order.

When you try and overthrow a democracy, you're scum. No reason to mince words about it. No wonder Nazis are on your team. 

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