B-Man Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On Thursday, news broke that WNBA player Brittney Griner was being released from a Russian labor camp and flown back to the United States. According to an announcement by the White House, Griner had been swapped for a notorious arms dealer named Viktor Bout, also known as the “merchant of death.” Quickly, the backslapping began, with Joe Biden taking full credit for the deal, but it didn’t take long before questions began to emerge. Former US Marine Paul Whelan has been held on false charges in Russia for nearly four years. Why wasn’t he prioritized in the deal? Then there is teacher Mark Fogel, who was sentenced to 14 years in prison for possessing medical marijuana (very similar to Griner’s charge). The White House won’t even acknowledge his plight, having not designated him as being wrongfully detained. As the Biden administration told it, though, Whelan was never on the table. Instead, the Russians insisted that the trade had to be for Griner or no one. Yet, astute observers noted how little sense that makes. Why would Russia want to make the choice easy for Biden? Wouldn’t they gain much more from making him make a choice between two Americans? And why would the Russians want to give up Griner before Whelan given that Griner is a public figure and obviously more valuable? Sure enough, there’s evidence emerging that the White House’s story isn’t exactly accurate. For example, NBC News originally reported via a senior government official that the Russians were offering either Griner or Whelan in the deal. Later on, the article was stealth edited to match the administration’s talking points. {snip} Further, consider the administration’s messaging on the prisoner swap. Karine Jean Pierre, the White House press secretary, touted Griner being a gay, black woman during her briefing in what appeared to be an attempt to justify her importance. Others in the administration toed the same line, with the press dutifully playing along. If Griner’s identity wasn’t a factor, why make such a big deal about it? There’s just too much here that doesn’t add up. That we are dealing with an administration that has made a habit of lying to the American people only makes the questions more prudent. Did Biden choose Griner because she’s famous and/or checks the right intersectional boxes over a former Marine who has been rotting away for nearly four years? It sure seems like it. At the very least, there needs to be a lot more investigation as to what exactly went on here. The original deal was bad enough, if not arguably necessary. But if the White House played identity politics with a former service member’s life, that would be a major scandal. https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/12/09/it-sure-looks-like-biden-is-lying-about-the-brittney-griner-prisoner-swap-n671663 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: But someone posted it on Twitter. It has to be true! But it is true. Heaven forbid you actually read the attached Reuters article. Trump released her early and sent her right home. We all know who is boss, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: But it is true. Heaven forbid you actually read the attached Reuters article. Trump released her early and sent her right home. We all know who is boss, Jim Hey Billy Boy! How ya doin’? How many beers ya got in ya this Friday? Seems like a lot. Pace yourself ok. We’d not want to lose you. Ok enough of the pleasantries. I actually did read the linked article. That’s how I knew the Twit for Brains was full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This could go in the libs are mentally disturbed thread as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 8 hours ago, StHustle said: so if he was traded for the ex Marine instead of Griner you’d still be outraged? Trump was presented with this offer. He (rightly) turned it down. 10 hours ago, nedboy7 said: Right? You got it I think. The other dude is melting down. You didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 Yeah, again, Trump wasn't willing to let Bout go free. Joke was, but for a basketball player who had just recently been incarcerated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 🎯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Oh? Interesting. So has been President Result of former CCPDNC Twitter been presented with any opportunity to free him? I’ll hang up and listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh? Interesting. So has been President Result of former CCPDNC Twitter been presented with any opportunity to free him? I’ll hang up and listen. You're dreaming if you think Trump lost because of Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: You're dreaming if you think Trump lost because of Twitter. Answer the question. You can address why he didn’t* in the Twitter and free speech has been saved thanks to Elon thread. *He did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Answer the question. You can address why he didn’t* in the Twitter and free speech has been saved thanks to Elon thread. *He did II have no idea if Biden will be able to put the right deal together to free PW but I wouldn't put it past Biden to get the job done. He has a great track record getting things Trump promised done. Really unfortunate the greatest POTUS in MAGA history couldn't leverage his connections and love notes with Putin to free a US Marine. You all claim Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine with a second Trump presidency, but Trump had two years to get a US Marine out and failed. Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: II have no idea if Biden will be able to put the right deal together to free PW but I wouldn't put it past Biden to get the job done. He has a great track record getting things Trump promised done. The reports are they had a choice - NBC just isn’t interested in doing as much work on it as they did Trump’s taxes. But now the bar is set…….a lunatic arms dealer called the merchant of death for a WNBA Player. That’s like trading Nate Peterman for Patrick Mahomes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The reports are they had a choice - NBC just isn’t interested in doing as much work on it as they did Trump’s taxes. But now the bar is set…….a lunatic arms dealer called the merchant of death for a WNBA Player. That’s like trading Nate Peterman for Patrick Mahomes. Yea, the world is much safer with 5,000 Taliban prisoners and terrorist leaders released by Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Yea, the world is much safer with 5,000 Taliban prisoners and terrorist leaders released by Trump. Or much safer giving their country away to the people they took orders from in stunningly embarrassing fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Or much safer giving their country away to the people they took orders from in stunningly embarrassing fashion. Trump negotiated with the terrorists without the Afghan government present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddogblitz Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) I'm not 100% convinced Brittney tried to smuggle in a vape. Do we believe everything Russia says? I'm glad she's home as I would any American in a Russian jail. I don't care if she knealed during the anthem or whatever. Free speech and we don't have a loyalty test in America. I don't like that we released Bout in a trade. I feel like this could incentivise Russia to arrest other Americans popular with lefties to use as trade bait now that the precedent has been set. Not to mention he is a really bad dude. Its doubtful Russia wanted him out for humanitarian reasons. And, I'm still not voting for him. Edited December 11, 2022 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'm not 100% convinced Brittney tried to smuggle in a vape. Do we believe everything Russia says? I'm glad she's home as I would any American in a Russian jail. I don't care if she knealed during the anthem or whatever. Free speech and we don't have a loyalty test in America. I don't like that we released Bout in a trade. I feel like this could incentivise Russia to arrest other Americans popular with lefties to use as trade bait now that the precedent has been set. Not to mention he is a really bad dude. Its doubtful Russia wanted him out for humanitarian reasons. And, I'm still not voting for him. She pleaded guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: She pleaded guilty. I understand or so they said. Again, do you believe everything Russia sez? I don't. Not saying she did, not saying she didn't. I'm just giving the same credence to what Russia sez as I do reading stuff I see on Tweeter. And I'm still not voting for him. Edited December 11, 2022 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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