SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I understand or so they said. Again, do you believe everything Russia sez? I don't. Not saying she did, not saying she didn't. I'm just giving the same credence to what Russia sez as I do reading stuff I see on Tweeter. And I'm still not voting for him. So you're saying that Russia's information was actually disinformation? My head is spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I'm not 100% convinced Brittney tried to smuggle in a vape. Do we believe everything Russia says? I'm glad she's home as I would any American in a Russian jail. I don't care if she knealed during the anthem or whatever. Free speech and we don't have a loyalty test in America. I don't like that we released Bout in a trade. I feel like this could incentivise Russia to arrest other Americans popular with lefties to use as trade bait now that the precedent has been set. Not to mention he is a really bad dude. Its doubtful Russia wanted him out for humanitarian reasons. And, I'm still not voting for him. I agree with you on the vape cartridges, and her right to express herself as she sees fit. Likewise, people have the right to express themselves as they see fit on her actions. At the same time, it’s hard to remove the fact that she put herself in harms way by traveling to Russia in the first place. Do people not read the news, or consider the political landscape when making decisions? Two things can be true at the same time. She can be a victim of circumstance, some of which was of her own making, and a trade in exchange for the prisoner can be a very bad decision. As for the incentive for hostile governments to seize Americans, that pre-dates Brittney Griner by decades. All that has happened here is they know the conditions under which Biden will negotiate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 In all the chatter here....does anyone know why Ms Griner was going to Russia in the first place? Was it some sort of a promotional event? If so, doesn't she have 'people' who tell her the rules before she gets on the plane? (Not making a judgement here....just wondering what her management team was doing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: In all the chatter here....does anyone know why Ms Griner was going to Russia in the first place? Was it some sort of a promotional event? If so, doesn't she have 'people' who tell her the rules before she gets on the plane? (Not making a judgement here....just wondering what her management team was doing.) People?? I smoke weed and travel with it and you better believe I check the laws regarding it if I travel out of the country. If they are strict I leave it at home. It’s her responsibility as an adult not the people who handle her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I understand or so they said. Again, do you believe everything Russia sez? I don't. Not saying she did, not saying she didn't. I'm just giving the same credence to what Russia sez as I do reading stuff I see on Tweeter. And I'm still not voting for him. I don't either. But no one from Griner's camp ever once refuted that she brought the vape pen and pot into Russia or that she pleaded guilty. And it's not like by pleading guilty she got a lighter sentence; they threw the book at her. 15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: In all the chatter here....does anyone know why Ms Griner was going to Russia in the first place? Was it some sort of a promotional event? If so, doesn't she have 'people' who tell her the rules before she gets on the plane? (Not making a judgement here....just wondering what her management team was doing.) She was going to play in one of their women's basketball leagues, IIRC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: People?? I smoke weed and travel with it and you better believe I check the laws regarding it if I travel out of the country. If they are strict I leave it at home. It’s her responsibility as an adult not the people who handle her. You must’ve missed the part where I said I wasn’t placing judgment on anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You must’ve missed the part where I said I wasn’t placing judgment on anybody. What does that have to with my placing judgement? At the end of the day it’s her responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: What does that have to with my placing judgement? At the end of the day it’s her responsibility. Yes it is. I’m just amazed that if she was traveling with a group that they didn’t go over this amongst a bunch of other protocols. If they did, it makes her error even more baffling. If they didn’t it makes you wonder what the event organizers were doing. (It’s different from when you or I just get on a plane.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: People?? I smoke weed and travel with it and you better believe I check the laws regarding it if I travel out of the country. If they are strict I leave it at home. It’s her responsibility as an adult not the people who handle her. He's saying that beyond herself, she probably has a team of people out of who at least one of them should have foreseen this being a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yes it is. I’m just amazed that if she was traveling with a group that they didn’t go over this amongst a bunch of other protocols. If they did, it makes her error even more baffling. If they didn’t it makes you wonder what the event organizers were doing. (It’s different from when you or I just get on a plane.) Why is her potentially ignoring what her handlers may have told her baffling? Dude, you live in LA. You have to know how celebrities think they are above the rules. Reason #1 why I despise celebrities and have given up on sports. 9 minutes ago, Doc said: He's saying that beyond herself, she probably has a team of people out of who at least one of them should have foreseen this being a problem. I understand what he’s saying. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Why is her potentially ignoring what her handlers may have told her baffling? Dude, you live in LA. You have to know how celebrities think they are above the rules. Reason #1 why I despise celebrities and have given up on sports. I understand what he’s saying. 🙄 Not sure why a simple observation cause so much consternation. But you do you. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 1:15 PM, Doc said: So this girl rails against the US, goes to Russia despite warnings...and takes a marijuana vape pen with her. Should I have any sympathy for her? I think she is a secret agent for Biden seeing as they traded her for a arms dealer she must have something on Joe or maybe was gonna tell all about Hunter i think that is where she got the weed from 🤔. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Not sure why a simple observation cause so much consternation. But you do you. 😉 Thanks. Not sure who else I’d do. 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Thanks. Not sure who else I’d do. 😏 Whatever happens do NOT do BillSy. Pinky swear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Whatever happens do NOT do BillSy. Pinky swear! No worries. And I’ll not be a Twit For Brains regurgitater either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Yes it is. I’m just amazed that if she was traveling with a group that they didn’t go over this amongst a bunch of other protocols. If they did, it makes her error even more baffling. If they didn’t it makes you wonder what the event organizers were doing. (It’s different from when you or I just get on a plane.) People are dumb, and if you’ve been a high performing athlete your entire life, it’s likely that arrogance plays a part. It’s not even as if one has to think “The rules don’t apply to me”, it’s more of a “Oh, crap, there are rules??”’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: People are dumb, and if you’ve been a high performing athlete your entire life, it’s likely that arrogance plays a part. It’s not even as if one has to think “The rules don’t apply to me”, it’s more of a “Oh, crap, there are rules??”’ No argument there. My original question was an honest one. If she was indeed amongst a group going over there to play basketball I can guarantee you they were given explicit instructions and protocols to adhere to. I’m not so quick to place blame. I’m guessing it was more of an ‘oh crap’ moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No argument there. My original question was an honest one. If she was indeed amongst a group going over there to play basketball I can guarantee you they were given explicit instructions and protocols to adhere to. I’m not so quick to place blame. I’m guessing it was more of an ‘oh crap’ moment. When you were in elementary school or Jr High did you ever disregard what your elders told you? Whoops….question. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No argument there. My original question was an honest one. If she was indeed amongst a group going over there to play basketball I can guarantee you they were given explicit instructions and protocols to adhere to. I’m not so quick to place blame. I’m guessing it was more of an ‘oh crap’ moment. It’s a damn shame when a majestically inked up 7’ tall lady in a ginormous track suit can’t blend in with the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 14 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: So you're saying that Russia's information was actually disinformation? My head is spinning. Perhaps. How do you know they're telling the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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