buckeyebrian Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 I swear on all that is sacred. If they movethis team out of Buffalo I will never watch an NFL game again. 329043[/snapback] Second that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 The Bengals have a new stadium, and the Cards are building one. 329079[/snapback] How does Arizona get a new stadium when over the past 4 seasons they've averaged between 36,000-38,000 fans per game? Are they building some sort of intimate 40,000 seat stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 I swear on all that is sacred. If they movethis team out of Buffalo I will never watch an NFL game again. 329043[/snapback] Third that! Just like when the Braves moved out of Buffalo, I never watched another NBA game again. As far as the Bills are concerned, once the lease expires or gets close to the end, and if R Wilson is dead....................lets just say we move up the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 We'll get on the list in a hurry once the JP 3-13 debacle begins. The Ralph will drop to 30,000 and the vultures will begin to circle. 328969[/snapback] So, I guess you are not one of these "the glass is half full" kind of guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 So, I guess you are not one of these "the glass is half full" kind of guys? 329328[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 As far as the Bills are concerned, once the lease expires or gets close to the end, 329277[/snapback] You can say this about every team in the NFL. Until the next lease is approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 How did the Braves do attendance wise while they were here? Was it reasonable that they moved at all? It must be somewhat statisfying for the former fans how terrible the former Braves, now Clippers, have become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 How did the Braves do attendance wise while they were here? Was it reasonable that they moved at all? It must be somewhat statisfying for the former fans how terrible the former Braves, now Clippers, have become. 329541[/snapback] The Braves had a solid following until the ownership change and resulting swap meet of star players. The NBA screwed Buffalo. I listened to, watched and attended Braves games. After the demise, I also never followed pro basketball again. Check out this site for a brief review of the Braves history. Pay close attention to the references to the years 76-77 and 77-78. http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/buffalo/bufbraves.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 We'll get on the list in a hurry once the JP 3-13 debacle begins. The Ralph will drop to 30,000 and the vultures will begin to circle. 328969[/snapback] I'd be interested to hear your reasoning behind a 3-13 season. If JP is sub-mediocre this season his performance will be equal to that of Drew. Based upon the facts, your argument has no merit. If you want to idolize Bledsoe that's fine, build a shrine to him in your basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 The Braves had a solid following until the ownership change and resulting swap meet of star players. The NBA screwed Buffalo. 329609[/snapback] 'Zactly. Bob McAdoo for John freakin' Gianelli?!?!!?! :shaking head in disbelief: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 And that swarthy rat that oversees the NBA was a lawyer that helped the process along of the Braves heading to San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 We'll get on the list in a hurry once the JP 3-13 debacle begins. The Ralph will drop to 30,000 and the vultures will begin to circle. 328969[/snapback] yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 (okay, but LA better be prepared for half of WNY to migrate with theteam. Look for lots of houses to go up with pink Flamingoes, and Our Lady of The Bathtub Concrete thing, in every yard.) 329069[/snapback] i considered it...then visited the area the last week of april... i sat in traffic for an hour and a half to go 20 miles during rush hour then i visited the house of my future in-laws which is about the same size as my house in rochester (might even be smaller than my house) and found out it costs 400k more than my house (my house is worth 107k, theirs is worth 500k) nice weather, nice scenery, but no thanks...plus, leaving NYS to go to an area where the government is just as retarded as the NYS gov just doesn't seem right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 The Cardinals move into a new stadium next year, so scratch them off the list of candidates. The Colts, I believe, have the funding necessary for a new stadium? Don't they have the green light to start that project? So, Minnesota, San Diego and New Orleans are up in the air on new stadium projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Fan attendance last year... Bills:574,399 Packers: 564,400 Ravens: 558,594 Patriots: 550,048 Eagles: 540,870 Raiders: 518,271 Dallas: 510,892 (america's team) Steelers: 507,385 Colts: 456,791 Raiders: 405,936 329100[/snapback] Christ, everyone should look at that full list and check out Arizona. Not only have they finished dead last for 4 straight years (at least, could be more), but the raw #s are staggering. I knew it was bad, but........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 lest you forget, we had a 3-13 debacle only 4 short years ago. the sky hasn't fallen yet. i have faith that ralph will do everything he can reasonably do to keep the bills in buffalo. 329086[/snapback] That was only a few years removed from the midget saving the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Christ, everyone should look at that full list and check out Arizona. Not only have they finished dead last for 4 straight years (at least, could be more), but the raw #s are staggering. I knew it was bad, but........ 329858[/snapback] To boot... They are the oldest NFL franchise and have a total of 8 playoff appearances! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 It's been a full 10 years since Los Angeles had an NFL team. And they don't seem to miss it very much. I think that if LA would have received a team, one would have moved by now. Many there would rather go see USC try to win a third consecutive national title. If the good people (and I use that term loosely ) of Southern California want NFL football so bad, go 2 hours down I-5 to see the Chargers. Hmmm...the Bills play in San Diego on November 20. That's about the time we'll see the conspiracy theorists again. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 I'd be interested to hear your reasoning behind a 3-13 season. If JP is sub-mediocre this season his performance will be equal to that of Drew. Based upon the facts, your argument has no merit. If you want to idolize Bledsoe that's fine, build a shrine to him in your basement. 329711[/snapback] I'm not idolizing Drew. I idolize experience and JP has none. This is a disaster any knowledgable fan can see from miles away. Buffalo does not have the luxury of throwing seasons away to find out they have another physically gifted mentally challenged tool back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 I'm not idolizing Drew. I idolize experience and JP has none. This is a disaster any knowledgable fan can see from miles away. Buffalo does not have the luxury of throwing seasons away to find out they have another physically gifted mentally challenged tool back there. 329916[/snapback] You know what? Kordell Stewart is experienced and he SUCKS. Experience don't mean shiat when you're not gittin' 'er done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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