Orlando Tim Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What part of any of that was surprising to you? (Not trying to be snarky.) Honestly nothing is "surprising" in that too much information is contradictory that I have read, I just got it from in my opinion a better source. The only "new" part was we are planning to stick it out until Putin is removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Honestly nothing is "surprising" in that too much information is contradictory that I have read, I just got it from in my opinion a better source. The only "new" part was we are planning to stick it out until Putin is removed. Tim, this has been the plan from the jump. This has NEVER been about Ukraine. Not even for a minute. The Ukrainian people have been used as pawns in the Democrats bloodthirsty pursuit of removing Putin, who they accuse of stealing the presidency from Hilary Clinton. They don’t even really hide it. Not sure what you thought was going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Honestly nothing is "surprising" in that too much information is contradictory that I have read, I just got it from in my opinion a better source. The only "new" part was we are planning to stick it out until Putin is removed. Running yet another State Department regime change operation and expecting Putin to be replaced with a more "favorable" leader is wishful thinking and setting yourself up for failure. Recall just such an operation in Ukraine started events in motion that brought the situation to this point. And as unpredictable as things get what if Putin's replacement is more dangerous? I'm starting to feel this is Afghanistan 2.0. We'll dump 100's of billions upon 100's of billions along with lots of resources into another quagmire while insisting from start to finish our side is winning in order to maintain public support and funding and in the end be left with the government making excuses to explain what went wrong. Edited May 21, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Tim, this has been the plan from the jump. This has NEVER been about Ukraine. Not even for a minute. The Ukrainian people have been used as pawns in the Democrats bloodthirsty pursuit of removing Putin, who they accuse of stealing the presidency from Hilary Clinton. They don’t even really hide it. Not sure what you thought was going on here. Hahaha I was waiting until everyone’s favorite boogeyman would be blamed for the Russian invasion of another sovereign state. Well done. 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: because wars take long times. He has his own narratives like you saying it’s no longer a military option lol. Like you told us they’d be bankrupt, Putin had cancer, dementia, was dying of something else etc. but those who live in reality knew this was going to be a lot harder than you made it out to be So why is Russia invading another sovereign nation, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Hahaha I was waiting until everyone’s favorite boogeyman would be blamed for the Russian invasion of another sovereign state. Well done. So why is Russia invading another sovereign nation, again? because it will make him money. why isn’t it a military operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Hahaha I was waiting until everyone’s favorite boogeyman would be blamed for the Russian invasion of another sovereign state. Well done. Wrong! I didn’t blame her for the invasion. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: because it will make him money. why isn’t it a military operation It’s never been one, it’s always been a war started by Russia 30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Wrong! I didn’t blame her for the invasion. Nice try. You said they’re doing it for Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You said they’re doing it for Hillary. Nope….not what I said. They’re doing because they blame Putin for Hilary. English is a tricky language for sure, but that’s not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Nope….not what I said. They’re doing because they blame Putin for Hilary. English is a tricky language for sure, but that’s not the same thing. Yeah, it all comes back to big bad Hillary. That’s what I said. What are you going to do when she dies and you can’t blame her for your failures anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, it all comes back to big bad Hillary. That’s what I said. What are you going to do when she dies and you can’t blame her for your failures anymore? So this discussion is going nowhere. Thanks for being willing to engage....not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So this discussion is going nowhere. Thanks for being willing to engage....not. Dude you made up a theory that the democrats want the war to kill Putin because he kept Hillary from being president 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Dude you made up a theory that the democrats want the war to kill Putin because he kept Hillary from being president Dude, I never said they want to kill Putin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Dude, I never said they want to kill Putin. What do you think “removing” means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Roundybout said: What do you think “removing” means In the English language, when referring to an elected official, it means to have him/her no longer be in office. Does it mean something different in Klingon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: In the English language, when referring to an elected official, it means to have him/her no longer be in office. Does it mean something different in Klingon? You think this is gonna end with Putin happily stepping down to live in a little cottage by the sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You think this is gonna end with Putin happily stepping down to live in a little cottage by the sea? Much like your screen name….You’re going in circles now. So in short, you agree with me, the US government is trying to see if they can get Putin ’removed’. It took a bit but we’ve finally reached agreement. Have a good one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Much like your screen name….You’re going in circles now. So in short, you agree with me, the US government is trying to see if they can get Putin ’removed’. It took a bit but we’ve finally reached agreement. Have a good one! No, I started this by addressing your conspiracy theory that the war was started by the US democrats as revenge for Putin keeping Hillary from office. Then you decided to be belligerent and argue semantics instead. Russia started this war on its own accord. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: What are you going to do when she dies and you can’t blame her for your failures anymore? Go out in the streets, find the yellow brick road and sing "Ding D o n g the Witch is Dead". Edited May 22, 2023 by Wacka Stupid language filter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, it all comes back to big bad Hillary. That’s what I said. What are you going to do when she dies and you can’t blame her for your failures anymore? My wife’s ***** will not survive the night that follows Hillary’s death and I hope old billy is off with her. The damage they’ve done to the world is hilariously bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Roundybout said: No, I started this by addressing your conspiracy theory that the war was started by the US democrats as revenge for Putin keeping Hillary from office. Then you decided to be belligerent and argue semantics instead. Russia started this war on its own accord. Period. The war was set in motion in 2014 when the Obama State Department and CIA engineered a coup to oust the pro-Russia government and replaced it with one aligned to Western interests. Soon after is when fighting started in Donbas between ethnic Russian Ukrainians and Nazi paramilitary groups. The Russians sent assistance and merc's to help and things escalated from there. Edited May 22, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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