dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 from the d & c: "Donahoe rejected reports that he was asking too much for Henry. 'If not being offered anything is being greedy, then we were greedy,' he said. 'We were willing to discuss anything but somebody has to offer you something so that you can have a conversation.'" from the nashville tennesean: "The Titans entered the picture over the weekend and were willing to give up a draft pick for Henry, but the Bills didn't think it was a high enough pick. Fisher wouldn't go into specifics about the talks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 The paper doesn't really say much, and certainly not from a named source. TD's on the record with his comments, but read into it what you will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Jesus Dave is TD going to have to get an Order of Protection against you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Is it possible that Fisher lied, or stretched the truth to say a hard offer was made, when it wasn't?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Dave, there IS a difference, however slight, between "being willing to give up a draft pick" and actually OFFERING a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 One might also simply infer that an "offer" consists of an offer WORTH LISTENING TO... Just a thought........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Jesus Dave is TD going to have to get an Order of Protection against you? 319229[/snapback] no, but i do think he's being disingenuous about all of this. i mean, blaming the agent for not working hard enough to get a trade? that's pretty bush league. i just want the whole episode to be over with and for the bills to get on with business. henry on the bills presents a problem to the team, and i fear they'll have to end up releasing him to solve it. i've said this before -- keeping him on the roster means that someone else won't be, and given henry's negative attitude -- which will in no diminish over the next six months -- that someone else will be preferable to TH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 from the d & c: "Donahoe rejected reports that he was asking too much for Henry. 'If not being offered anything is being greedy, then we were greedy,' he said. 'We were willing to discuss anything but somebody has to offer you something so that you can have a conversation.'" from the nashville tennesean: "The Titans entered the picture over the weekend and were willing to give up a draft pick for Henry, but the Bills didn't think it was a high enough pick. Fisher wouldn't go into specifics about the talks." 319223[/snapback] TD is just trying to save face for dropping the ball after talking tough for 3 months.......he's taking a beating in the press and is in full spin mode........there is no doubt there were teams interested and making offers on saturday..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 from the d & c: "Donahoe rejected reports that he was asking too much for Henry. 'If not being offered anything is being greedy, then we were greedy,' he said. 'We were willing to discuss anything but somebody has to offer you something so that you can have a conversation.'" from the nashville tennesean: "The Titans entered the picture over the weekend and were willing to give up a draft pick for Henry, but the Bills didn't think it was a high enough pick. Fisher wouldn't go into specifics about the talks." 319223[/snapback] Get a grib, it's called semantics. "Anything" likely means something acceptable. Then again, who cares? I could care less what my team's GM has to do to field a winning team. He can lie, cheat steal or insult my wife and I just won't care, as long as he's doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 One might also simply infer that an "offer" consists of an offer WORTH LISTENING TO... Just a thought........ 319237[/snapback] as opposed to a straight up release? i'm not saying it's going to happen for sure, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonz Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Ok, now I am convinced TD is the anti-christ warned about in the Bible... Armageddon is here. Abandon all hope. SIGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live&DieBillsFootball Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 For whatever reason, there was no market for veteran RBs on draft day. If all he was offered was a 4th or 5th round pick, I'm glad he didn't take it. The worst case scenario is that TH doesn't report and he doesn't get paid until someone comes along and wants to trade for him later. I would rather let him sit and sulk than trade him for next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 You'd cave in to this idiot for a 4th round pick? Unless we get something worthwhile, Travis either plays or doesn't get paid and effectively ends his career. Who's going to give him a decent contract after he sits out his year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 from the d & c: "Donahoe rejected reports that he was asking too much for Henry. 'If not being offered anything is being greedy, then we were greedy,' he said. 'We were willing to discuss anything but somebody has to offer you something so that you can have a conversation.'" from the nashville tennesean: "The Titans entered the picture over the weekend and were willing to give up a draft pick for Henry, but the Bills didn't think it was a high enough pick. Fisher wouldn't go into specifics about the talks." 319223[/snapback] Read the last sentance in the d&C quote. If someone offered a sixth rounder right now for Willis, would that constitute a reason to have a converstaion. TD was upfront all the way that the Bills would only take a trade if they thought they were getting"fair" value. If Fisher called TD and said we would consider TH for our fifth, is that something TD should have reponded to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Ummm, you offer the fact that TD made a flat out lie, then back it up with....nothing more than a vague comment? I was expecting something of substance, poor post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 For whatever reason, there was no market for veteran RBs on draft day. If all he was offered was a 4th or 5th round pick, I'm glad he didn't take it. The worst case scenario is that TH doesn't report and he doesn't get paid until someone comes along and wants to trade for him later. I would rather let him sit and sulk than trade him for next to nothing. 319256[/snapback] not me - i'd take the pick. there are a lot of prospects that can make a team and contribute in the 5th round. let me ask you this: who will be more valuable to the team next year: kevin thomas as a nickel back or a sulking travis henry? a valuable special teams linebacker who makes plays or a sulking travis henry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Sorry, I don't see anywhere in there where TD lied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Ummm, you offer the fact that TD made a flat out lie, then back it up with....nothing more than a vague comment? I was expecting something of substance, poor post. 319259[/snapback] how vague is this? "The Titans entered the picture over the weekend and were willing to give up a draft pick for Henry, but the Bills didn't think it was a high enough pick." in other words, it reads "Tennessee offered the Bills a late round pick for Travis Henry. The Bills weren't interested." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 'If not being offered anything is being greedy, then we were greedy,' he said. 'We were willing to discuss anything but somebody has to offer you something so that you can have a conversation.'" 319223[/snapback] The operative word here is "anything." I look at it as TD saying "anything" commensurate with the value we place on TH. Shades of grey, not B&W. That's the language of GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 not me - i'd take the pick. there are a lot of prospects that can make a team and contribute in the 5th round. let me ask you this: who will be more valuable to the team next year: kevin thomas as a nickel back or a sulking travis henry? a valuable special teams linebacker who makes plays or a sulking travis henry? 319263[/snapback] How about the possibility that TH won't be a Bill come opening day and we'll be getting picks to be used in a much stronger draft class? Don't be so myopic on this. The season doesn't start today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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