H.R. 1 And The Fight For Voting Rights -- We The People!

[TH3]

On 6/11/2021 at 1:03 PM, B-Man said:

 

Oh c'mon Doc.

 

He has already posted numerous lists.

 

The fact that is actually the exact opposite of "rigging" doesn't bother a lightweight like Billzy.

 

States returning to pre-covid regulations and Voter ID's is what people  THE GOP's want.

 

 

 

 

FIFY

On 6/17/2021 at 12:19 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

Easy to Vote, Hard to Cheat

 

By Glenn Harlan Reynolds

June 17, 2021

 

America’s voting system is in trouble. To do its job, it needs to produce clear and trustworthy outcomes. It’s not enough to produce a winner and loser. The losers have to believe that they lost fair and square, and the public has to have enough confidence in the system to be skeptical when sore losers claim fraud.

 

We don’t have that right now. To get there, we need paper ballots, voter ID, and open counting – plus a bit of self-restraint among our political class. Across much of America, voting is now done by computerized devices. Computers have many advantages: They’re fast, they’re easy to program (compared with changing printed ballots), and they produce rapid results that can be quickly reported.

 

But they also have problems. One is that to trust a computer, you have to trust the people who wrote its software, and everyone else who may have had an opportunity to change that software. Devices that connect to the Internet also raise the risk that people on the other side of the world might change the software or the results.

 

Since 2020, such worries have often been dismissed as right-wing propaganda, but just before the election USA Today published a roundup of concerns about electronic voting that cited numerous computer scientists. Conclusion: “All election systems are for the most part black boxes: proprietary software and hardware jealously guarded by the handful of companies selling them. But state reviews and court cases opening up DRE [direct-recording electronic] systems of all makes and models for examination have for years flagged problems.”

 

“The whole community of computer scientists is mystified why election officials will not listen to experts about technology but will listen to the vendors” selling and maintaining it, said computer scientist Duncan Buell of the University of South Carolina.

 

Prior to the 2020 election, several prominent Democrats, including Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, and Ron Wyden, sent a letter citing reports of vote-switching by machines manufactured by Dominion Systems. They wrote: “These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.”

 

They were right. Whether or not voting machines were actually compromised, if people can’t trust them, they’re no good. So, we need something more trustworthy. How do we do that?

 

Paper ballots, voter ID, and open counting, for a start. Paper ballots aren’t fraud-proof, but they have several advantages over electronic voting machines. First, they can’t be hacked by someone in Minsk or Guangdong. To change a paper ballot, you need physical access.

 

What’s more, while you can change a vote tally in a computer by flipping some bits – and bits are interchangeable – paper ballots capture more information than simply votes for or against a candidate. Erasing original votes is likely to leave some residue.

 

Creating large numbers of fake ballots is also harder. Computer votes have no identifying characteristics. Details of handwriting, ink color, and so on make each paper ballot unique. If you mass-produced completed ballots, it would be much harder to make them look genuine; a Xerox machine wouldn’t do the job.

 

Of course, votes need to be genuine. Voter fraud is itself a species of voter suppression. If a fraudulent voter casts a ballot, that ballot neutralizes the vote of a legitimate voter who chose a different candidate.

 

Many states (including mine, Tennessee) require a photo ID to vote, as is the custom around the world. Voting by mail is frowned upon. In Europe, 63% of countries ban mail-in ballots except for citizens living abroad; another 22% ban mail-in ballots even for overseas citizens. Most countries that allow mail-in ballots require people to show an ID to obtain one. Some countries – including those where the U.S. has tried to boost democracy, such as Afghanistan and Iraq – have gone further, marking voters (remember the famous “purple finger” photos?) to prevent repeat voting.

 

The goal is simple: one person, one vote – with both person and vote authenticated.

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I’m not the only one to endorse paper ballots. After the Democrats’ Iowa caucuses debacle last year, where a smartphone voting app failed miserably, the New York Times ran a piece headlined “The only safe election is a low-tech election.”

 

And as Sen. (now Vice President) Kamala Harris noted, “Russia can’t hack a piece of paper.” 

 

Of course, to be trusted, votes must also be counted fairly. I recommend an open count at each polling place. Counting votes on the spot would eliminate problems with ballots being “lost” on the way to a central counting facility or being “discovered” in the trunk of a car during the count. Everything should be done out in the open.

 

There should also be accountability for voting officials. Votes lost or found? You lose your job. The responsibility is vital, and there should be serious consequences for failure or dereliction.

 

More at the link: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/06/17/easy_to_vote_hard_to_cheat_145941.html

 

Where is the cheating? 

Edited June 22, 2021 by TH3

[B-Man]

14 minutes ago, TH3 said:

 

Where is the cheating? 

 

Learn to read.

 

 

 

Back to the thread.  Today's the day the democrat party's power grab goes down.

 

 

Worried CBS Frets: What to Do If Dem Voting Power Grab Is Doomed?

by Scott Whitlock

 

Monday marked the 21st day of June, a month that Joe Biden hoped would see the passage of his extreme voting rights power grab, as well as a huge infrastructure bill. So far, neither has happened and CBS This Morning journalists began to fret about what to do next. In fact, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki seemed to indicate that the so-called “For the People” act was doomed. Co-host Anthony Mason asked Psaki if the White House had an alternative strategy: “Jen, as Kris Van Cleave mentioned, a vote is expected as early as Tuesday.

 

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2021/06/21/worried-cbs-frets-what-do-if-dem-voting-power-grab-doomed

 

 

 

Progressives Are Livid at Kyrsten Sinema Because She Understands Long-Term Consequences

https://redstate.com/joesquire/2021/06/22/progressives-are-livid-at-kyrsten-sinema-because-she-understands-long-term-consequences-n400598

 

 

 

 

 

Democrats Will Be Displeased to Learn How the Public (Especially Democrat Voters) View Voter ID

https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2021/06/21/democrats-will-be-displeased-to-learn-how-the-public-especially-democrat-voters-view-voter-id-n400367

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Progressives' cri de coeur: "Where is the President?" on HR1

 

Ah, politics. Where else but in America can the GOP’s “Where is Joe Biden?” campaign before the election get embraced by progressives after it? The Democrats’ tendentious and partisan voting-reform act will get shredded in the Senate this afternoon, which everyone has known for weeks, but progressives want to know why Biden hasn’t lifted a finger to fight for it.

 

Politico reports that progressive ire might shift from Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin to the White House in the aftermath:

 

Progressives are steaming that President JOE BIDEN didn’t use his bully pulpit to try to move the needle on the bill — or strike a deal allowing Congress to block GOP legislatures from curbing access to voting. They want to know how Democratic leaders can claim in one breath that democracy is in jeopardy — and in the next let this legislation crash and burn.

 

Indivisible founder EZRA LEVIN went on a tear about this Monday, declaring in a Twitter thread: “I have reached my WTF moment with Biden on this.” The progressive grassroots leader said BARACK OBAMA “did a live debate with House GOP on the ACA,” BILL CLINTON “gave 18 speeches on NAFTA and deputized [AL] GORE to debate ROSS PEROT on it,” and DONALD TRUMP and GEORGE W. BUSH “were all tax cuts all the time.”

 

“Where is the president?” he asked. “Is saving democracy a priority for this Administration or not? I don’t want to see some tepid public statement. We need to see the President and VP using the full force of their bully pulpit to lead.”

 

Ahem. Did progressives even notice how Biden and Kamala Harris campaigned for their jobs last year? Biden restricted himself to tightly controlled appearances with very few people in attendance, and Harris didn’t get out much more than that. At the time, we assumed this was a political version of Mohammed Ali’s “Rope-a-Dope,” forcing the media to cover Trump rather than Biden. Strategy or not, it succeeded.

 

 

More at the link: https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/06/22/progressives-cri-de-coeur-where-is-the-president-on-hr1-n398189

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

28 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Learn to read.

 

 

 

Back to the thread.  Today's the day the democrat party's power grab goes down.

 

 

Worried CBS Frets: What to Do If Dem Voting Power Grab Is Doomed?

by Scott Whitlock

 

Monday marked the 21st day of June, a month that Joe Biden hoped would see the passage of his extreme voting rights power grab, as well as a huge infrastructure bill. So far, neither has happened and CBS This Morning journalists began to fret about what to do next. 

 

 

How about nothing.

 

Do nothing.  

 

Just let us work.  And put back to work those taking advantage of unemployment and stimulus checks and forgiven rent that's all leading to out of control inflation that is most definitely costing Dems the House in 2022.  And President DeSantis to follow in 2024.  

 

 

Try that for a change DC instead of highly partisan abs divisive bull ***t that helps NO ONE.  

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

Amazing how Dem pols are now claiming they never had a problem with an ID requirement. Shows how dumb they believe their voters are. They do some polling , get a result that totally goes against their narrative ,then deny it was ever their position. Dems are truly abhorrent people. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

39 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Amazing how Dem pols are now claiming they never had a problem with an ID requirement. Shows how dumb they believe their voters are. They do some polling , get a result that totally goes against their narrative ,then deny it was ever their position. Dems are truly abhorrent people. 

Republicans are too ya know… just believe different things. Politicians are sleaaazy.

 

Im convinced Balance of power is the only necessary evil holding this federal Schitt  show together. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting data set, so as it turns out banning IDs or signature verification is about as popular as allowing convicted imprisoned terrorists to vote.
 

go figure..  

[B-Man]

 

Leftists -- We need to change the rules because our ideas don’t stand on merit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 22, 2021 by B-Man

[Irv]

 

 

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Leftists -- We need to change the rules because our ideas don’t stand on merit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What an embarrassment these people are. 

 

Did the CNN hack not follow that up with "are you serious right now?" 

[Unforgiven]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

What an embarrassment these people are. 

 

Did the CNN hack not follow that up with "are you serious right now?" 

Anyone with half a brain can see the leftists bs and lies.

Lucky for them many of their voters have far less than half a brain.

[Unforgiven]

 

[B-Man]

 

The Republic Is Preserved – But The Democrats Will Try Insurrection Again

Issues & Insights, by The Editorial Board

 

Republicans have saved this country’s two-party political system. At least for now. The power-hungry Democrats won’t give up easily, though. They’ll redouble their efforts to set themselves up as an unchallengeable political force that rules rather than governs. With Sen. Mitch McConnell and the rest of the Republicans in the 50-50 Senate voting against moving forward with the “For the People Act of 2021,” the Democrats’ plan to put elections under federal rather than state and local authority was shelved Tuesday.

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2021/06/23/the-republic-is-preserved-but-the-democrats-will-try-insurrection-again/

 

 

 

[B-Man]

DON SURBER: Manchin Is Not The Problem: Democrats Are.

 

Democrats did not win the last Senate elections. Republicans did. They did not win by as wide a margin as they needed to maintain control of the Senate, but the American people backed them, not Democrats.

 

And Democrats cannot handle that. They pretend that they received a landslide last November and January, when they actually lost. By believing their own Fake News, Democrats set themselves not only to fail but to fail spectacularly.

 

Republicans won 20 of the 35 senate races last year. Republicans received 49% of the vote, Democrats 47%.

 

This split the Senate 50-50. As president of the Senate, Vice President Kamala Harris decides any tie vote.

 

But Democrats want to pretend that they have this mandate from the people, which they do not have.

 

The echo chamber of the Washington media unthinkingly repeats their talking points. So reliably on message are ABC-CBS-CNN-NBC-MSNBC-AP that I truly believe their anchors are trans-species parrots. After decades of misleading the public, most people no longer follow them down the dark alleys of politics, where liberals mug them.

 

For example, since January the media have called Republican efforts to reform state voting laws Jim Crow. The media portrays Democrats as champions of voting rights, when in fact Democrats want to void state laws and have Washington run state and local elections.

 

The things Democrats want, voters do not want.

 

CNS News reported on its recent poll. It said, “Fully 78% of U.S. voters say asking voters to present a photo as proof of identity is an appropriate method of ensuring election integrity – more than four times the 17.2% who say it’s an unreasonable form of voter suppression. Another 4.8% say they ‘don’t know.'”

 

Plus: “Biden did not use his bully pulpit because he cannot speak well in public. And he needs naps. Lots of them. He called it a day at 2:44 p.m. on Monday. He is not a good salesmen. I doubt he could sell ice cream to Cub Scouts on a hot summer’s day, which is why they kept him in the basement during last fall’s campaign. Democrats have not won the Senate. Acting as if they did fools no one. Blaming Manchin gets them nowhere. And if their plan is to win in 2022 by voting on doomed bills, I see Republicans flipping the Senate.”

 

It would serve them right.

 

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2021/06/manchin-is-not-problem-democrats-are.html

[B-Man]

https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2021/06/23/the-morning-briefing-progressives-are-having-a-rough-time-and-its-glorious-n1456270

 

 

KRUISER’S MORNING BRIEF: Progressives Are Having a Rough Time and It’s Glorious. 

 

“Because the Democrats have convinced themselves that their smoke and mirrors bare majority means that they have a mandate, they’re a bit upset.

 

Strap in for some loud shrieks of ‘RAAAAAAACISM’ issuing forth from the usual suspects for the next several weeks.”

 

 

 

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[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

THE LEFT WILL TRY AGAIN:  

 

Breaking: US Senate preserves filibuster, blocking Orwellian-named “For The People” HR-1.

 

They’re fighting for survival itself. And to keep their crimes covered up.

 

 

https://spinstrangenesscharm.wordpress.com/2021/06/23/breaking-us-senate-preserves-filibuster-blocking-orwellian-named-for-the-people-hr-1/