"I'll develop some disease and say I have to resign."

[TBBills]

@Teddy KGB @T master @Unforgiven @Big Blitz @Big Gun

 

 

We understand you are here to try and create violence and and unrest in the forums. We also understand you are here b.c you are brainwashed by a cult type of situation that has one objective, which is to tear this country apart. Thing is Biden won fair and square...

 

The democratic party is here with open arms to take you away from your lies and fed corruption by a man who has no interest in anything but himself. 

 

Even the more intelligent Republican party is there for you when you are ready to pull yourself away from your extremist nature in which you have been brainwashed into.

 

You can keep making insults and ignoring the facts "Like when you post 30 second clips and they get debunked by officials (Appointed by republicans)", tells you that those clips are meant to sway the feeble minded into backing Trump, those propaganda companies have one thing on their mind which is to make you so far right that you can never get back to anything normal. 

 

That is not true, people on both sides Republican and Democrat are here to  help you get away from your extremist nature. 

Edited December 6, 2020 by TBBills

[TBBills]

5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This is a surprisingly tepid response from you.  You’ve been quite passionate about COVID and everyone’s responsibility, yet Biden’s comments about serious illness during a time of a worldwide pandemic only rises to the level of dampening the “mood” of the country?  Millions infected world wide, millions on lockdown and out of work, and your chosen candidate makes light of it all (at least from your perspective) and that’s it—-we’re not in the mood for his dark humor?  Interesting. 

We are used to Trump who has been doing it since the beginning.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

14 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

One misguided statement beats 4 years of lying stupidity.  Thank God Trump is gone in a few weeks.  

This statement belies Biden’s commentary over nearly 50 years in public life.  He’s made many, many statements like this and it cost him multiple times in multiple elections.  That’s the fascinating part about watching you folks line up to worship at the altar of Bidenism—he’s always been a nitwit, he has trafficked in lies about himself, his education, the deaths of his first wife and his children, he’s made racially insensitive comments and all of that occurred before he lost several steps cognitively.  A few weeks back, he thought he was running against someone named “George” and his wife had to correct him. 
 

It strikes me as odd that none of the other parties seemed to get the tongue in cheek hilarity.  Harris nodded with the type of slight smile a caregiver would have when her patient confused a 2016 Honda Accord and his old 1955 Chevy, and Tapper just moved on at the very oddly placed joke/reference to a COVID-like illness. Worse, where was Biden’s acknowledgement that it was a joke?  No laugh, no sly grin, just a meandering and out of context joke by a doddering old man.  

 

 

11 hours ago, Kemp said:

Remember all of Trump's "jokes" like injecting poison?

How quickly they forget.

I remember—I remember it well and it received coast to coast coverage and was hotly debated.  Thanks for acknowledging my point, even assuming it was a “tongue in cheek” joke. 

[T master]

38 minutes ago, TBBills said:

You are angry just b.c it is more truthful than anything Trump's propaganda news has ever told you. Keep being the feeble minded brainwashed Trumpsters you are. It's funny to watch you all get fooled by an orange man.

 

Even republicans are tried of Trumpsters, soon you will just be brainwashed cult following your cult leader as he feeds you lies that you believe b.c you are easily fooled. 

 

WOW are you drinking the kool-aid ...

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 minutes ago, TBBills said:

We are used to Trump who has been doing it since the beginning.

And decided to solve the problem by supporting a tired old geezer who has made a career out of things like that.  Good for you. 

[TBBills]

2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This statement belies Biden’s commentary over nearly 50 years in public life.  He’s made many, many statements like this and it cost him multiple times in multiple elections.  That’s the fascinating part about watching you folks line up to worship at the altar of Bidenism—he’s always been a nitwit, he has trafficked in lies about himself, his education, the deaths of his first wife and his children, he’s made racially insensitive comments and all of that occurred before he lost several steps cognitively.  A few weeks back, he thought he was running against someone named “George” and his wife had to correct him. 
 

It strikes me as odd that none of the other parties seemed to get the tongue in cheek hilarity.  Harris nodded with the type of slight smile a caregiver would have when her patient confused a 2016 Honda Accord and his old 1955 Chevy, and Tapper just moved on at the very oddly placed joke/reference to a COVID-like illness. Worse, where was Biden’s acknowledgement that it was a joke?  No laugh, no sly grin, just a meandering and out of context joke by a doddering old man.  

 

 

I remember—I remember it well and it received coast to coast coverage and was hotly debated.  Thanks for acknowledging my point, even assuming it was a “tongue in cheek” joke. 

Look at you grasping for any straw b.c you have nothing...

1 minute ago, T master said:

 

WOW are you drinking the kool-aid ...

You drank all the kool-aid already...

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

And decided to solve the problem by supporting a tired old geezer who has made a career out of things like that.  Good for you. 

You just described yourself.

[oldmanfan]

16 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This is a surprisingly tepid response from you.  You’ve been quite passionate about COVID and everyone’s responsibility, yet Biden’s comments about serious illness during a time of a worldwide pandemic only rises to the level of dampening the “mood” of the country?  Millions infected world wide, millions on lockdown and out of work, and your chosen candidate makes light of it all (at least from your perspective) and that’s it—-we’re not in the mood for his dark humor?  Interesting. 

Biden does not have responsibility for Covid, the pathetic excuse for a President we’ve had for 4 years dies.  Biden needs to knock off the silly attempts at humor; no one is in the mood.  He wasn’t referring to Covid, he was referring to what he would have done if he disagreed with his boss when he was VP.  What more would you like me to say about his statement?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 minutes ago, TBBills said:.

You just described yourself.

Then we agree. Thank you. 

[Q-baby!]

[Doc]

9 hours ago, TBBills said:

It's all they got left b.c they know they ***** up bad.

 

LOL!  Yeah China unleashing a plague on the world was a real screw-up by Trump. 

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  Yeah China unleashing a plague on the world was a real screw-up by Trump. 

Again, he didn’t cause the virus but he demonstrated complete incompetence in handling it.  Bush didn’t cause 9/11, but he rallied the nation.  And then he didn’t cause Hurricane Katrina but completely botched the response.

 

These sophomoric type of responses to try and defend a failed president need to stop.  He screwed up, and he’s out.  Period.

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Biden does not have responsibility for Covid, the pathetic excuse for a President we’ve had for 4 years dies.  Biden needs to knock off the silly attempts at humor; no one is in the mood.  He wasn’t referring to Covid, he was referring to what he would have done if he disagreed with his boss when he was VP.  What more would you like me to say about his statement?

You said all that needs to be said. The country might be in the mood for the old “VP disagrees with boss so naturally he gets a serious illness and resigns” gag if only we weren’t in the 11th month of death and despair.  He just missed on the timing of the joke, maybe not fully briefed on the current death total.  Maybe he thought we were under a hundred thousand or so—that’s when it brings the house down.  
 

The man is toast.  He never had a good feel for what to say and when, but as old age has ravaged his brain, the filters are just dropping.  This isn’t a joke, it’s a babbling old man. 
 

But he’s your babbling old man, so let’s pretend he just misread the crowd. 

[T master]

21 minutes ago, TBBills said:

@Teddy KGB @T master @Unforgiven @Big Blitz @Big Gun

 

 

We understand you are here to try and create violence and and unrest in the forums. We also understand you are here b.c you are brainwashed by a cult type of situation that has one objective, which is to tear this country apart. Thing is Biden won fair and square...

 

The democratic party is here with open arms to take you away from your lies and fed corruption by a man who has no interest in anything but himself. 

 

Even the more intelligent Republican party is there for you when you are ready to pull yourself away from your extremist nature in which you have been brainwashed into.

 

You can keep making insults and ignoring the facts "Like when you post 30 second clips and they get debunked by officials (Appointed by republicans)", tells you that those clips are meant to sway the feeble minded into backing Trump, those propaganda companies have one thing on their mind which is to make you so far right that you can never get back to anything normal. 

 

That is not true, people on both sides Republican and Democrat are here to  help you get away from your extremist nature. 

 

I'm registered a independent because i don't believe any of their BS like you do i vote for the lessor of 2 evils or who i think has better tools to perform the job that's required there is not one that is a career politician that gives a S**T about you if you think any of them have your best interest in mind your a DAM FOOL they have a agenda but some are just to blinded to see it .

 

Oh just because i have a opinion that doesn't agree with your line of thought doesn't mean I in any way create or join in the violent behavior of others but i will stand up for what i think is right .

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You said all that needs to be said. The country might be in the mood for the old “VP disagrees with boss so naturally he gets a serious illness and resigns” gag if only we weren’t in the 11th month of death and despair.  He just missed on the timing of the joke, maybe not fully briefed on the current death total.  Maybe he thought we were under a hundred thousand or so—that’s when it brings the house down.  
 

The man is toast.  He never had a good feel for what to say and when, but as old age has ravaged his brain, the filters are just dropping.  This isn’t a joke, it’s a babbling old man. 
 

But he’s your babbling old man, so let’s pretend he just misread the crowd. 

And even  if you’re right, which I would debate, he will be 20 times better than the current occupant, who only cares about himself and could give a damn about the country.

[TBBills]

24 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  Yeah China unleashing a plague on the world was a real screw-up by Trump. 

Trump not believing in it is what did it.

 

Come on man don't be stupid. You looking like @Unforgiven now with these extremisms.

Edited December 6, 2020 by TBBills

[Doc]

29 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Again, he didn’t cause the virus but he demonstrated complete incompetence in handling it.  Bush didn’t cause 9/11, but he rallied the nation.  And then he didn’t cause Hurricane Katrina but completely botched the response.

 

These sophomoric type of responses to try and defend a failed president need to stop.  He screwed up, and he’s out.  Period.

 

I've already laid-out why it wouldn't have been any better under Hillary, if not worse.  But we can't go back in time, can we?

 

And the vaccine makers declaring they had vaccines that were 90+% effective and coming soon prior to the election would have changed things.

 

10 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Trump not believing in it is what did it.

 

Come on man don't be stupid. You looking like @Unforgiven now with these extremisms.

 

LOL! OK, sparky. 

[Teddy KGB]

14 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Trump not believing in it is what did it.

 

Come on man don't be stupid. You looking like @Unforgiven now with these extremisms.

when’s the part where you pull yourself together ? 

[oldmanfan]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I've already laid-out why it wouldn't have been any better under Hillary, if not worse.  But we can't go back in time, can we?

 

And the vaccine makers declaring they had vaccines that were 90+% effective and coming soon prior to the election would have changed things.

 

 

LOL! OK, sparky. 

I don’t care what Hillary would have done or not done.  I do not care what other elected leaders of other countries did.  I care what our elected president did and he blew it.  These “well, what about so and so” arguments are a better fit in a preschool playground.  

 

I will say Operation Warp Spped was a good thing.  

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I don’t care what Hillary would have done or not done.  I do not care what other elected leaders of other countries did.  I care what our elected president did and he blew it.  These “well, what about so and so” arguments are a better fit in a preschool playground.  

 

I will say Operation Warp Spped was a good thing.  

 

You should care if you want to have an honest discussion.  If you're willing to accept that this virus was going to ravage the US no matter who was POTUS, then it becomes less about "it's all because of him" and more about China's criminal actions.  Under Barry, H1N1 was basically ignored for 5 months and infected tens of millions, but it wasn't nearly as bad as this and didn't ravage the US.  Meanwhile, remember all the models of millions of people dying from it?  Where has all the talk of those gone?  

[TBBills]

25 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

when’s the part where you pull yourself together ? 

That is why we are here to help you pull yourself together. You have been destroyed and we will be here to out the pieces back together... Why else would you be doing this trolling?

Edited December 6, 2020 by TBBills

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You should care if you want to have an honest discussion.  If you're willing to accept that this virus was going to ravage the US no matter who was POTUS, then it becomes less about "it's all because of him" and more about China's criminal actions.  Under Barry, H1N1 was basically ignored for 5 months and infected tens of millions, but it wasn't nearly as bad as this and didn't ravage the US.  Meanwhile, remember all the models of millions of people dying from it?  Where has all the talk of those gone?  

It did not have to ravage our country.  Trump lied about it and did not do enough to slow things down.  Your false comparisons to other theoretics don’t mean squat.  Obama was responsible for his actions in his administration, Trump in his.  Should we go go back to Buchanan screwing up slavery to absolve Trump in your eyes?  Where does it end?

 

At your job, if you do something wrong is it your responsibility, or is it the fault of the last guy who had the job, or someone who never had the job, or anyone else but yourself?

 

and to throw out another false construct, the millions of people dying was if we had done nothing to prevent disease transmission.  Thankfully we had folks like Dr. Birx and Fauci that folks listened to, instead of the Orange one.

[Teddy KGB]

29 minutes ago, TBBills said:

That is why we are here to help you pull yourself together. You have been destroyed and we will be here to out the pieces back together... Why else would you be doing this trolling?

because laughing at ridiculous people like you is like really really funny 

[Big Gun]

2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

have you ever tried plenty o fish or tinder ? 
 

you need to get laid bro.    

He's too much of a *****up to get laid!

[Big Gun]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I don’t care what Hillary would have done or not done.  I do not care what other elected leaders of other countries did.  I care what our elected president did and he blew it.  These “well, what about so and so” arguments are a better fit in a preschool playground.  

 

I will say Operation Warp Spped was a good thing.  

How about Cuomo, the idiot in New Jersey or Pennsylvania, the reject in Michigan, did they pass your sniff test? Your a ***** moron!

39 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

It did not have to ravage our country.  Trump lied about it and did not do enough to slow things down.  Your false comparisons to other theoretics don’t mean squat.  Obama was responsible for his actions in his administration, Trump in his.  Should we go go back to Buchanan screwing up slavery to absolve Trump in your eyes?  Where does it end?

 

At your job, if you do something wrong is it your responsibility, or is it the fault of the last guy who had the job, or someone who never had the job, or anyone else but yourself?

 

and to throw out another false construct, the millions of people dying was if we had done nothing to prevent disease transmission.  Thankfully we had folks like Dr. Birx and Fauci that folks listened to, instead of the Orange one.

Got proof

[TBBills]

31 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

because laughing at ridiculous people like you is like really really funny 

Yet you are the one being laughed at.

9 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

He's too much of a *****up to get laid!

You are just angry b.c Trump lost and you have been lied to by him. 

 

Maybe if you weren't so feeble minded you could get laid without having it pay for it.

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Big Gun said:

How about Cuomo, the idiot in New Jersey or Pennsylvania, the reject in Michigan, did they pass your sniff test? Your a ***** moron!

Cuomo screwed up putting back in nursing homes.  And again, what they did or did not do have no bearing on what Trump did. His decisions are on him.  It is astounding how many people will tie themselves in knots trying to defend a con man.

 

 And I’d love to meet you outside the confines of a message board.  You act so tough here, but in reality I would guess you’re a sniveling little mama’s boy who acts out his fantasies of being a big guy with a big gun here.

[TBBills]

8 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

Got proof

 

 

here is your nice timeline of his bull####.  THIS IS HIM TALKING... so try and disprove this lol

 

 

Big Gun thanks for making it easy.

Edited December 6, 2020 by TBBills

[oldmanfan]

16 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

How about Cuomo, the idiot in New Jersey or Pennsylvania, the reject in Michigan, did they pass your sniff test? Your a ***** moron!

Got proof

The Woodward tape.  In his own voice.

[TBBills]

 

[Teddy KGB]

10 minutes ago, TBBills said:

 

this threads about Biden “faking” a disease and your lack of brains.     
 

what’s all this Trump stuff you keep mumbling about ? 
 

can you stay on topic dimwit ? 

Edited December 6, 2020 by Teddy KGB

[TBBills]

3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

this threads about Biden “faking” a disease and your lack of brains.     
 

what’s all this Trump stuff you keep mumbling about ? 
 

can you stay on topic dimwit ? 

Big Guns wanted it. You have not even talked about the topic, just feeble minded Trumpster troll.

 

I am glad it bothers you though.

[Warcodered]

5 hours ago, T master said:

 

WOW A modern day liberal college cartoon video made by young impressionable college students taught by a liberal/socialist college professors full of fake news BS where did you find that in America ? 

Wow talk about reading one word and running with it, the company is 20 years old now how are they young impressionable college students as they're about to go into their 40's?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

And even  if you’re right, which I would debate, he will be 20 times better than the current occupant, who only cares about himself and could give a damn about the country.

It’s this type of over-emotional reaction that ensures we continue to get knuckleheads and people like Biden in the senate and White House.  “Only cares about himself....” so he ran for office, gained traction and presided over a roaring economy.  He encouraged repatriation of money long held off shore due to onerous taxation, cut through regulation and was rewarded for his patriotism by being branded treasonous.  When it became apparent the story was little more than tabloid fodder, you’d think folks that supported job creation and low unemployment but hated Trump would at least be grateful that fellow Americans had work.  Nope—not the Biden boys, to you, it’s overwrought angst and handwringing must resume.  Better to get back to Biden policies of old where the swamp prevailed and people knew their place.  
 

Which brings us to today.  It’s obvious the mist is falling over Biden’s brain, where he’d once laugh off a misstep or inappropriate joke with a hearty laugh and a “Oh jeez, look at me” now supporters aren’t sure if it’s sarcasm, tongue in cheek or just an old guy rambling on.  
 

I think the old man lost his way in this conversation—there’s nothing remotely funny or “tongue in cheek” about a serious illness to a major political figure—that’s why no one involved laughed it off.  Harris looked like she was responding to a patient with a head injury with that sympathetic nod. 

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

It’s this type of over-emotional reaction that ensures we continue to get knuckleheads and people like Biden in the senate and White House.  “Only cares about himself....” so he ran for office, gained traction and presided over a roaring economy.  He encouraged repatriation of money long held off shore due to onerous taxation, cut through regulation and was rewarded for his patriotism by being branded treasonous.  When it became apparent the story was little more than tabloid fodder, you’d think folks that supported job creation and low unemployment but hated Trump would at least be grateful that fellow Americans had work.  Nope—not the Biden boys, to you, it’s overwrought angst and handwringing must resume.  Better to get back to Biden policies of old where the swamp prevailed and people knew their place.  
 

Which brings us to today.  It’s obvious the mist is falling over Biden’s brain, where he’d once laugh off a misstep or inappropriate joke with a hearty laugh and a “Oh jeez, look at me” now supporters aren’t sure if it’s sarcasm, tongue in cheek or just an old guy rambling on.  
 

I think the old man lost his way in this conversation—there’s nothing remotely funny or “tongue in cheek” about a serious illness to a major political figure—that’s why no one involved laughed it off.  Harris looked like she was responding to a patient with a head injury with that sympathetic nod. 

He ran for office because he’s a narcissistic con man.  And he’s conned you and many others into some bizarre devotion.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Cuomo screwed up putting back in nursing homes.  And again, what they did or did not do have no bearing on what Trump did. His decisions are on him.  It is astounding how many people will tie themselves in knots trying to defend a con man.

 

 And I’d love to meet you outside the confines of a message board.  You act so tough here, but in reality I would guess you’re a sniveling little mama’s boy who acts out his fantasies of being a big guy with a big gun here.

Jesus—Cuomo only “screwed up”?

 

My God, he’s got the deaths of tens of thousands on his hands.  As I told you previously—- I’m no scientist, but I’ve known for decades that being around older people with a simple flu virus was dangerous for them.  I prayed the last 10 years I wouldn’t catch a cold before visiting my mom at Thanksgiving and she was a perfectly healthy 70+ year old woman.  Where the *&$# is your outrage over this a*holes actions?  

And you’re correct, Trump isn’t Cuomo (he actually worked diligently to get Cuomo’s ass out if the frying pan), but it’s certainly possible to despise Trump and Cuomo as well. 
 

 

 

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Jesus—Cuomo only “screwed up”?

 

My God, he’s got the deaths of tens of thousands on his hands.  As I told you previously—- I’m no scientist, but I’ve known for decades that being around older people with a simple flu virus was dangerous for them.  I prayed the last 10 years I wouldn’t catch a cold before visiting my mom at Thanksgiving and she was a perfectly healthy 70+ year old woman.  Where the *&$# is your outrage over this a*holes actions?  

And you’re correct, Trump isn’t Cuomo (he actually worked diligently to get Cuomo’s ass out if the frying pan), but it’s certainly possible to despise Trump and Cuomo as well. 
 

 

 

I think Cuomo should lose his office just as Trump has.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

He ran for office because he’s a narcissistic con man.  And he’s conned you and many others into some bizarre devotion.

I’ve come to the conclusion that you and those like you voted for the old days.  You could outwardly espouse progressive ideology while staying in your bubble.  When Biden ran his game on super predators, his alliance with Ted Kennedy and the good old boys network in the senate, it was perfectly ok with you—so you want more of that.   You can scream about women’s rights, but the truth is groping women and children is acceptable because Biden gives you cover, and they were disposable anyways.  Biden’s explanation that the victims simply misunderstood his intent when pawing them is classic victim blaming—and that works for you likely because you understand it. 

 

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I think Cuomo should lose his office just as Trump has.

Wow—these are very harsh words for Cuomo.  You’re en fuego.  

[oldmanfan]

Biden has old school approaches with his hugs and stuff that have with time been recognized as wrong and he has admitted he needed to change his ways.  Many of my generation have had to do the same.  We were wrong.  But a far cry from paying off porn stars and such and bragging about sexually abusing women which is what Trump has done.

 

As for voting for Biden, I would have voted for a ham sandwich over Trump.  And as for accusing me of being OK with groping women and children, as a father of two daughters here’s my answer:  Shove it.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

25 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Biden has old school approaches with his hugs and stuff that have with time been recognized as wrong and he has admitted he needed to change his ways.  Many of my generation have had to do the same.  We were wrong.  But a far cry from paying off porn stars and such and bragging about sexually abusing women which is what Trump has done.

 

As for voting for Biden, I would have voted for a ham sandwich over Trump.  And as for accusing me of being OK with groping women and children, as a father of two daughters here’s my answer:  Shove it.

This is classic enablement behavior because you enjoy the safety of a status quo politicians.  
 

Joe Biden’s snuggly hair smelling with his body pressed firmly against any available flesh was never normal.  Never.  The liberties  Biden took would get his ass kicked in ANY normal scenario from either of our lives, or I’ve totally misjudged who you seem to be.  He’s the guy from the local plant in a position of authority that reaches in, pulls the wife close, rubs her shoulders (or worse) while whispering what he might do to her if she was of the mind.  He’s the judge who offers to look the other way on a ticket in exchange for certain considerations carried out in the secrecy of a dark hallway.  
 

I was born in 1961, am the son of a woman who would jab a fingernail in that creepsters eye, married to a woman who would do the same, and raised my own daughter to recognize the power dynamic in play with this old douche.  I’m 100% certain you did the same, and how you can rationalize this behavior as anywhere approaching normal for that time is absurd.  Did it happen?   Of course it did,  but this is a far cry from normal behavior of that time, and honestly, I was taught the boundaries at a very early age.  If you were wrong and felt you had to apologize, that’s on you.  It may explain your rationalization that Biden’s behavior as a *&$#ing US Senator was “normal”. 
 

 

Edited December 6, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[RochesterRob]

28 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Biden has old school approaches with his hugs and stuff that have with time been recognized as wrong and he has admitted he needed to change his ways.  Many of my generation have had to do the same.  We were wrong.  But a far cry from paying off porn stars and such and bragging about sexually abusing women which is what Trump has done.

 

As for voting for Biden, I would have voted for a ham sandwich over Trump.  And as for accusing me of being OK with groping women and children, as a father of two daughters here’s my answer:  Shove it.

  Old school?  Baloney!  He does not get a pass for that when he is in the US Senate.  He is not some old guy living on the edge of town stuck in the 1940's with no one to set him straight. 

 

5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This is classic enablement behavior because you enjoy the safety of a status quo politicians.  
 

Joe Biden’s snuggly hair smelling with his body pressed firmly against any available flesh was never normal.  Never.  The liberties  Biden took would get his ass kicked in ANY normal scenario from either of our lives, or I’ve totally misjudged who you seem to be.  He’s the guy from the local plant in a position of authority that reaches in, pulls the wife close, rubs her shoulders (or worse) while whispering what he might do to her if she was of the mind.  He’s the judge who offers to look the other way on a ticket in exchange for certain considerations carried out in the secrecy of a dark hallway.  
 

I was born in 1961, am the son of a woman who would jab a fingernail in that creepsters eye, married to a woman who would do the same, and raised my own daughter to recognize the power dynamic in play with this old douche.  I’m 100% certain you did the same, and how you can rationalize this behavior as anywhere approaching normal for that time is absurd.  Did it happen?   Of course it did,  but this is a far cry from normal behavior of that time, and honestly, I was taught the boundaries at a very early age.  If you were wrong, that’s on you. 
 

 

  Some libs would have us believe that Biden is on the same par with some guy who grew up 60 years on the edge of town and had no social contact to set him straight during the intervening years to today.

Edited December 6, 2020 by RochesterRob