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4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

DR actually took me up on that bet regarding this election 18 months ago.

 

The other day he got angry at me and called me his enemy.

 

I already posted his avatar publicly for all to see as well as through PM and he told me to stop PMing him.

 

I want to see if he switches his avatar finally by January 20th.  These people really are so far down the damn rabbit hole they're never coming out.  There's no legitimate President but Trump to them.

 

Morons.

 

What I despise is that far-left narrative that gets ladled over every disagreement like cheap gravy. I have never identified myself that way as many of my positions are probably a bit more socially and fiscally conservative, but I am skeptical of information and will go to other reliable sources and read. I have found other reasonably-minded individuals that dig a bit more and research enough to contradict the noise that has come out of the WH these past 4 years to frame a realistic picture of the character of our current acting President.

 

I have chided both CNN and Fox for divisive and dangerous rhetoric in the name of click-counts and viewership. So yes, I do think main-stream media should be more professional and responsible in their reporting. Like anything else the public can look to more objective reasonable sources for their news and that does not mean finding something that is even more far left or right as you only short-change yourself.

 

I voted for Biden because I believe that he is a candidate that could and would surround himself with good people, smart people who were capable of executing their roles, people who will likely stay in role long enough to be effective. This is needed to run a more productive government, not ceaseless Tweets attacking critics and perceived enemies while propping your own bloated self-image up with wild claims of accomplishments or spending inordinate amounts of time watching cable news 24/7 to gauge your own popularity.

 

Biden also possesses the capacity to accept when someone disagrees with him and to still respect that person or take their advice keeping the big picture and goal in mind. He and Kamala fought a bitter fight during the Primaries, but he realized that she best fit the bill for his running mate and pulling her Senate seat from CA would likely not hurt their party's bid to keep that seat. Trump fires anyone he feels is disloyal - disloyalty seems to come in many flavors: being smarter than him, contradicting things he says that are not true, checking his abuse of power, unable to execute his crazy policies, or simply no longer a useful tool.

 

John Kelly a retired 4-star US Marine Corps General spent more time closely working with Trump and guiding his day to day Presidential affairs, and it is safe to assume he knows more about the man up close and personal than any of us and he had this to say about Trump:

 

  • Upon his post transition conversation with Trump - "I said, whatever you do -- and we were still in the process of trying to find someone to take my place -- I said whatever you do, don't hire a 'yes man,' someone who won't tell you the truth -- don't do that. Because if you do, I believe you will be impeached."
  • He later would tell friends, "The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," 

 

 

Trumps rate of administrative turnover compared to past Presidents - keep in mind these are people he appointed where they moved on and not up to the latest purges:

 

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Trump's penchant for jettisoning anyone for any perceived slight reminded me of the movie "The Death of Stalin" a gallows-humor political satire where all of Stalin's inner circle cowered and placated the man trying to not end up on his "List of Enemies" each night. Steve Buscemi was awesome. Oddly fitting that Trumps authoritarian and fascist tendencies followed by all the boot-licking from his inner-circle, GOP accomplices, and Barr called this comedy about a period of Russian government transition to mind. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 11/13/2020 at 5:17 PM, WideNine said:

 

What I despise is that far-left narrative that gets ladled over every disagreement like cheap gravy. I have never identified myself that way as many of my positions are probably a bit more socially and fiscally conservative, but I am skeptical of information and will go to other reliable sources and read. I have found other reasonably-minded individuals that dig a bit more and research enough to contradict the noise that has come out of the WH these past 4 years to frame a realistic picture of the character of our current acting President.

 

I have chided both CNN and Fox for divisive and dangerous rhetoric in the name of click-counts and viewership. So yes, I do think main-stream media should be more professional and responsible in their reporting. Like anything else the public can look to more objective reasonable sources for their news and that does not mean finding something that is even more far left or right as you only short-change yourself.

 

I voted for Biden because I believe that he is a candidate that could and would surround himself with good people, smart people who were capable of executing their roles, people who will likely stay in role long enough to be effective. This is needed to run a more productive government, not ceaseless Tweets attacking critics and perceived enemies while propping your own bloated self-image up with wild claims of accomplishments or spending inordinate amounts of time watching cable news 24/7 to gauge your own popularity.

 

Biden also possesses the capacity to accept when someone disagrees with him and to still respect that person or take their advice keeping the big picture and goal in mind. He and Kamala fought a bitter fight during the Primaries, but he realized that she best fit the bill for his running mate and pulling her Senate seat from CA would likely not hurt their party's bid to keep that seat. Trump fires anyone he feels is disloyal - disloyalty seems to come in many flavors: being smarter than him, contradicting things he says that are not true, checking his abuse of power, unable to execute his crazy policies, or simply no longer a useful tool.

 

John Kelly a retired 4-star US Marine Corps General spent more time closely working with Trump and guiding his day to day Presidential affairs, and it is safe to assume he knows more about the man up close and personal than any of us and he had this to say about Trump:

 

  • Upon his post transition conversation with Trump - "I said, whatever you do -- and we were still in the process of trying to find someone to take my place -- I said whatever you do, don't hire a 'yes man,' someone who won't tell you the truth -- don't do that. Because if you do, I believe you will be impeached."
  • He later would tell friends, "The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," 

 

 

Trumps rate of administrative turnover compared to past Presidents - keep in mind these are people he appointed where they moved on and not up to the latest purges:

 

turnover.thumb.JPG.f25e48ebcd172a644e94e5e08f11dd5a.JPG

 

 

Trump's penchant for jettisoning anyone for any perceived slight reminded me of the movie "The Death of Stalin" a gallows-humor political satire where all of Stalin's inner circle cowered and placated the man trying to not end up on his "List of Enemies" each night. Steve Buscemi was awesome. Oddly fitting that Trumps authoritarian and fascist tendencies followed by all the boot-licking from his inner-circle, GOP accomplices, and Barr called this comedy about a period of Russian government transition to mind. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Great movie!

As someone that's probably representative of the "far left" as far as traditional American politics are concerned. I find it laughable the way that Trumpists try to associate conservatives/liberals with socialism or "far left" policies. We don't want them.

If your platform includes carveouts for the insurance industry, big pharma, the prison industrial complex, or energy companies, you aren't a "leftist".

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2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:


Great movie!

As someone that's probably representative of the "far left" as far as traditional American politics are concerned. I find it laughable the way that Trumpists try to associate conservatives/liberals with socialism or "far left" policies. We don't want them.

If your platform includes carveouts for the insurance industry, big pharma, the prison industrial complex, or energy companies, you aren't a "leftist".

 

Truth, most don't realize or acknowledge that their Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid that they are banking on during retirement are all Social Services or socialist practices. Its not the bogeyman.

 

I also think we need to better fund our institutions to address our homeless problem. My sister-in-law made a bizarre statement that it was an issue of affordable housing.

 

I live in an area that has a homeless people problem. Where many hang out discarded needles are present, others have bouts of ranting and raving at traffic. That's not an affordable housing issue.

 

I won't give any of them money, but I will buy sandwiches and beverages for them from time to time - especially the older folk.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Liberals boys shouldn't really be talking about 'manning up'.

Why do I keep seeing Trump2020?  It's the equivalent of saying the Bills won the 1992 Super Bowl.  Sorry folks, those hats and t-shirts have already been shipped to Rwanda.  

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On 11/12/2020 at 4:04 PM, westside2 said:

After all the swing states are recounted (which they will be) and Trump is announced the LEGAL winner and is reelected, will you accept the results?

Remember, the election isn't officially called until December 14 when the electoral college meets.

 

It's November 15th 2020, and this is a reminder that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.

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33 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Just to update y'all: DR has officially refused to abide by the terms of our 18 month old bet.

 

I'll just keep reminding him that he's a dishonest, hypocrital coward.

 

And I'll let him know you all said hi  :flirt:

You could tell him that even if the Pennsylvania Supreme Courts 5-2 ruling was on party lines he should probably read the dissenting opinion that concludes with this gem of a paragraph.

 

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Finally, short of demonstrated fraud, the notion that presumptively valid ballots cast by the Pennsylvania electorate would be disregarded based on isolated procedural irregularities that have been redressed -- thus disenfranchising potentially thousands of voters -- is misguided. Accordingly, to the degree that there is a concern with protecting or legitimizing the will of the Philadelphians who cast their votes while candidate representatives were unnecessarily restrained at the Convention Center, I fail to see that there is any real issue.

 

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18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

You could tell him that even if the Pennsylvania Supreme Courts 5-2 ruling was on party lines he should probably read the dissenting opinion that concludes with this gem of a paragraph.

 

 

 

He's so far lost it's ridiculous.  I really did think he'd be honorable enough to abide by the terms of our bet.  I know I would have if I lost.

 

Silly me for thinking the better of people.  Right now he's over there quoting me and mentioning me constantly calling me the enemy.  For every time he posts or quotes me, I respond by asking if he'll  abide by the terms of the bet yet and give a new Biden image every time.

 

The funny thing is: the people over there actually believe he's credible and knowledgeable  :doh:

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He's so far lost it's ridiculous.  I really did think he'd be honorable enough to abide by the terms of our bet.  I know I would have if I lost.

 

Silly me for thinking the better of people.  Right now he's over there quoting me and mentioning me constantly calling me the enemy.  For every time he posts or quotes me, I respond by asking if he'll  abide by the terms of the bet yet and give a new Biden image every time.

 

The funny thing is: the people over there actually believe he's credible and knowledgeable  :doh:

Absolute nutcase!!! He’s off his rocker! 

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He's so far lost it's ridiculous.  I really did think he'd be honorable enough to abide by the terms of our bet.  I know I would have if I lost.

 

Silly me for thinking the better of people.  Right now he's over there quoting me and mentioning me constantly calling me the enemy.  For every time he posts or quotes me, I respond by asking if he'll  abide by the terms of the bet yet and give a new Biden image every time.

 

The funny thing is: the people over there actually believe he's credible and knowledgeable  :doh:

I don't know, the issue with thinking he'd honor the bet is that all his belief in Trump was based on conspiracy BS and believing his lies. So at best hoping he'd honor his bet is hoping Trump would accept defeat and that never seemed all that likely. So DR is probably just going to never believe he lost the bet so he'll never honor it.

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On 11/12/2020 at 4:04 PM, Bidens_basement said:

After all the swing states are recounted (which they will be) and Trump is announced the LEGAL winner and is reelected, will you accept the results?

Remember, the election isn't officially called until December 14 when the electoral college meets.

 

 

 

Well they didn't the first time they've made up fabrications about certain things and have cried for 4 years so (IF it were to go that way which i'm pretty sure it won't)  the whiners that have been crying since the last election would burn the country down because that's what babies do when they don't get their way they cry, whine and complain until you drink to try to make it go away 😆 .

 

They get so annoying that who ever has control in any of those situations just says "just give them something free to shut them up" !


But what they don't realize like with the child you continue to give them their way instead of disciplining them for their bad behavior just makes the situation worse then they teach others if they cry loud enough and long enough they will get their way .

 

Which isn't a bad thing in some instances if the cause is truly worthy but today a lot is motivated by laziness and wanting someone else to do the work so every one can get free stuff rather than work for it ...

 

Then those doing the crying grow up and turn into life long politicians and move to Washington  to become politicians, lobbyist and such .

 

 

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