Kemp Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 18 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Can you show your work please? I think these stats are *****! Thanks Can't find the place I got it from, but it’s a cut and paste, I didn't write it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kemp said: Can't find the place I got it from, but it’s a cut and paste, I didn't write it. You need to provide a link to stuff you copy and paste, please Edited November 4, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You need to provide a link to stuff you copy and paste, please Will try and find it. You don't believe i wrote that, do you? Would be easy enough to disprove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Kemp said: Will try and find it. You don't believe i wrote that, do you? Would be easy enough to disprove. No I dont think you wrote it, I’m just reminding you of the TOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No I dont think you wrote it, I’m just reminding you of the TOS https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.co.uk/2176712/2020/11/03/bills-patriots-passing/%3famp How is that? Edited November 4, 2020 by Kemp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: To be fair, Kroft lost his balance adjusting to Allen's slightly off-target pass. If it had been more in front of him Kroft would have been off to the races. That's true, but a better athlete adjusts and keeps running. The nearest defender was so far away that he could possibly even have done a forward roll come to his feet and kept running. By all accounts, Kroft is a prince of a fellow and probably at the 0.5% edge of the normal population for athleticism, but by NFL standards he's just not that athletic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 21 hours ago, Kemp said: Not sure if this has been posted: In the last four games, Allen is 18-for-46 for 293 yards, one touchdown and four interceptions on passes that travel at least 10 yards in the air. That’s good for a passer rating of 32.2, worst in the league on those passes in that time frame. Expand that to passes 15 yards or more in the air, and Allen’s passer rating is second worst, ahead of only Sam Darnold in the last four games. It’s not as if the Bills aren’t giving him chances. Only four quarterbacks have thrown the ball 10 or more yards downfield more than Allen has in the last four weeks. He also had his top four receivers healthy on Sunday. His downfield passing game has disappeared, and if Allen can’t get it back, this offense will hover around the league average. Allen was one of the best downfield passers in football through the first month of the season. Defenses have adjusted to take it away, but Allen needs to find an answer. Edit: adding source: https://theathletic.co.uk/2176712/2020/11/03/bills-patriots-passing/ "on passes that travel at least 10 yards in the air" LOL at how these guys like to slice and dice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 i already said it once in here and i'll say it again. We're getting that elusive defensive td this week! we're due!!!! I'M SPEAKING(typing) THIS ONE INTO EXISTENCE! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: "on passes that travel at least 10 yards in the air" LOL at how these guys like to slice and dice things. We're in an age of analytics and they often tell an interesting and unexamined story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: I’m telling you... The Bills need to establish the run and take short throws to sustain long drives. Take some serious time off the clock. You can’t really stop Seattle’s offense but you if you can move the ball, you can limit possessions and keep them off the field. If you can get a few stops on a few of those possessions you can win. The Bills will need to score points and won’t be able to win 24-21. But I feel they can limit scoring opportunities seattle puts up 30 points per game with ease. if the Bills offense can't reach 30 this weekend they can forget about winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kemp said: We're in an age of analytics and they often tell an interesting and unexamined story. Fair. But the story they tell may not be the story the person examining them thinks they tell. The real question is always "what is the underlying cause?" Is Josh throwing to adequately open WR and missing? Is Josh trying to force the ball into double coverage and somewhat lucky he's not being picked? What's the reason? In this case, the statistic I'd like to know is how often Allen is throwing those longer passes against dime coverage or even 7 DB. For example, Thad Brown provided the following about coverage during the Pats game: What has that breakdown been during the other 3 games? My perception is that this statistic is being skewed because especially early-on in the Titans and KC games, Josh was in fact trying to force the ball into double or triple covered WR, either because he thought he could or because he was misreading the zone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fair. But the story they tell may not be the story the person examining them thinks they tell. The real question is always "what is the underlying cause?" Is Josh throwing to adequately open WR and missing? Is Josh trying to force the ball into double coverage and somewhat lucky he's not being picked? What's the reason? In this case, the statistic I'd like to know is how often Allen is throwing those longer passes against dime coverage or even 7 DB. For example, Thad Brown provided the following about coverage during the Pats game: What has that breakdown been during the other 3 games? My perception is that this statistic is being skewed because especially early-on in the Titans and KC games, Josh was in fact trying to force the ball into double or triple covered WR, either because he thought he could or because he was misreading the zone. It's just an interesting statistic that seems to indicate that Allen is having difficulty adjusting to new looks. Without re-reading it, I believe it did say that Allen is too locked in on his primary, which is usually Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: i'm fairly certain there's plenty of stats that show west and east coast teams have a bit more trouble when they have to travel multiple time zones. its not huge or anything but its there.... also i had assumed every football fan has heard about this. its something that gets brought up amongst analysts quite a bit . brand new to you i guess... thats odd to me. right. its a common talking point when these types of games come up. i'm surprised to see someone new to the concept. Once that poster gets something in his head you are better just letting it go. You would have a better chance of changing someone from blue cheese to ranch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QLBillsFan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, Kemp said: It's just an interesting statistic that seems to indicate that Allen is having difficulty adjusting to new looks. Without re-reading it, I believe it did say that Allen is too locked in on his primary, which is usually Diggs. The expert evaluation from Kubiak on JA’s play against the Pats is that he had an outstanding game. So he wasn’t forcing to Diggs vs Pats. The int Diggs was fairly open but miscommunication. To prove your point on JA forcing we need to see snap count of opposing D as we saw for Pats game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bronxbomber21 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Doss anyone no who the fox 1 o'clock game of the week is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kemp Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: The expert evaluation from Kubiak on JA’s play against the Pats is that he had an outstanding game. So he wasn’t forcing to Diggs vs Pats. The int Diggs was fairly open but miscommunication. To prove your point on JA forcing we need to see snap count of opposing D as we saw for Pats game. I just presented stats provided by someone else. You can disagree with the conclusions, but not the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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