BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Ive met Grossman, Ive heard him lecture. I respect him, but his books are nonsense and historically just not sound. I agree his ideas are militaristic and not often suitable for police practices. That said I think we agree then that we need more funding for the police and you actually seem to not want to eliminate them. Many of your ideas are not practical and just silly. Also you want to add a lot of bureaucracy. That again is naive. A good solution is less bureaucracy and less red tape. I’m sure the things Mao thought would work well sounded really great when he put them in bullet points...in reality however, his inexperience led to the suffering and deaths of millions. Do you support teachers unions? How far are we to eliminate unions? As a conservative I’m loving your idea of killing unions. I'm staunchly pro-union. The police union, however, operates at the expense of the public good. There needs to be significant change there. which of my ideas are not practical and silly? I didn't invent them - I pulled them from existing models or practices. I'm not sure how much bureaucracy there needs to be here. You need a small rotating panel of 5-9 citizens who review the police department and they should have some powers to act on improprieties. Police already have body cams, make them mandatory and remote controlled. They already create recruiting materials, just make them not "Operation Baghdad" and we're good Police spending more time working a shovel and less time working a gun does two things. It makes the job less desirable for wanna-be GI Joes, and it increases the liklihood that police build a relationship with the people in their community. I don't have the feintest idea what any of this, or bullet points, has to do with Mao. Edited September 25, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I'd love to play poker with you if those are your reads. As long as you had a ball gag in your mouth, anyway. I've noticed that you in no way have denied your citizenship or country of origin. My reads are pretty accurate and frankly you aren't smart enough to fool me. How can you deny this? https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16104/antifa-history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I've noticed that you in no way have denied your citizenship or country of origin. My reads are pretty accurate and frankly you aren't smart enough to fool me. How can you deny this? https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16104/antifa-history Clearly not - Born and raised in Buffalo. How can I deny an openly far-right think tank? Gee, let me count the ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm staunchly pro-union. The police union, however, operates at the expense of the public good. There needs to be significant change there. which of my ideas are not practical and silly? I didn't invent them - I pulled them from existing models or practices. I'm not sure how much bureaucracy there needs to be here. You need a small rotating panel of 5-9 citizens who review the police department and they should have some powers to act on improprieties. Police already have body cams, make them mandatory and remote controlled. They already create recruiting materials, just make them not "Operation Baghdad" and we're good Police spending more time working a shovel and less time working a gun does two things. It makes the job less desirable for wanna-be GI Joes, and it increases the liklihood that police build a relationship with the people in their community. I don't have the feintest idea what any of this, or bullet points, has to do with Mao. Ya know what went wrong in the Breonna Taylor situation...piss poor training. You don’t cure that with shovel work. Ya cover that with lots of gun training. More trigger time. More training. More. More. More. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: So, police around the country did not kneel in solidarity with protestors for a bunch of cameras and then deployed chemical weapons and assault them moments later after the press left? Basketball Cop didn't assault a black teenager? I'm a cop BOO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dragoon said: Ya know what went wrong in the Breonna Taylor situation...piss poor training. You don’t cure that with shovel work. Ya cover that with lots of gun training. More trigger time. More training. More. More. More. Shovel work wouldn't make Breonna Taylor be alive today, but it solves other systemic problems They shouldn't have even been there. The entirety of their case was hinged on a supposed package being picked up at that apartment. Given that they found no evidence of any kind in the apartment it stands that their entire prep for the case was dog****. If they had information that a package was supposedly picked up, they should have had information about who lived there. If they had information about who lived there they would have known her boyfriend was a legal gun owner. Why would you break into a legal gun owners house in the middle of the night with a mere suspicion that there could be drugs there? There could be drugs anywhere. There are drugs in millions and millions of people homes, but not in hers. That's not a reason to break into a home in the middle of the night. The only reason to do that is to look for the outcome the got. Given the manifesto of one of the officers who murdered her, I have no doubt about that. You think there might be a drug operation? How about you watch for a while? How about you go during the day? How about you wait for someone to come to door? How about you act like a goddamn human being instead of a wanna be GI Joe? 100% of the handling of the case was wrong from the intel, to the prep, the execution and the resolution. The worst part about it is that this miscarriage of justice happens all the time, as I've highlighted in this thread, and without significant change it's going to keep happening. Just now, Chef Jim said: I'm a cop BOO!! You seem to fit all the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Clearly not - Born and raised in Buffalo. How can I deny an openly far-right think tank? Gee, let me count the ways. I don't believe you for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: You seem to fit all the criteria. What's that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Shovel work wouldn't make Breonna Taylor be alive today, but it solves other systemic problems They shouldn't have even been there. The entirety of their case was hinged on a supposed package being picked up at that apartment. Given that they found no evidence of any kind in the apartment it stands that their entire prep for the case was dog****. If they had information that a package was supposedly picked up, they should have had information about who lived there. If they had information about who lived there they would have known her boyfriend was a legal gun owner. Why would you break into a legal gun owners house in the middle of the night with a mere suspicion that there could be drugs there? There could be drugs anywhere. There are drugs in millions and millions of people homes, but not in hers. That's not a reason to break into a home in the middle of the night. The only reason to do that is to look for the outcome the got. Given the manifesto of one of the officers who murdered her, I have no doubt about that. You think there might be a drug operation? How about you watch for a while? How about you go during the day? How about you wait for someone to come to door? How about you act like a goddamn human being instead of a wanna be GI Joe? 100% of the handling of the case was wrong from the intel, to the prep, the execution and the resolution. The worst part about it is that this miscarriage of justice happens all the time, as I've highlighted in this thread, and without significant change it's going to keep happening. You seem to fit all the criteria. ...mid 20’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dragoon said: ...mid 20’s? nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: nope. Man, unless you’re a teenager that’s bad then. Being in your 20’s would explain so much....if that’s not it then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Dragoon said: Man, unless you’re a teenager that’s bad then. Being in your 20’s would explain so much....if that’s not it then.... You never answered my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 10:24 AM, BullBuchanan said: Seattle branch of organized terrorist police force deliberately runs over an injured man's head with their bike. Seattle police terrorist who attacked unarmed and injured man by riding over his head with his bike to be investigated. I expect nothing to come from this given the systemic leniency of violence perpetuated by cops, but we'll see. "The accountability office has requested that an outside law enforcement agency conduct the criminal investigation, and the Seattle Police Department agreed. The King County Sheriff's Office will take over the case. SPD says the officer has been placed on administrative leave. " https://www.q13fox.com/news/seattle-officer-who-ran-over-mans-head-with-bicycle-facing-criminal-probe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 22 hours ago, RochesterRob said: Bull crap, Bull. We did it through letting 3 generations of subversive college professors have at young impressionable minds. These same professors who saw capitalism as the root of all their problems in life and communism as the only solution. ...LMAO......they despise capitalism, embrace socialism and work for minimum wage......yup......and protected by tenure to boot...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Chef Jim said: What's that supposed to mean? He’s saying you’re a far-right whack job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: He’s saying you’re a far-right whack job. Interesting. How would you define a far-right whack job? I'd interested in what box you've put me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Hedge said: Jacob Blake, "Heels Up Harris's hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 And crickets from the Law and Order cult White Supremacist Killed After Shooting California Deputy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: And crickets from the Law and Order cult White Supremacist Killed After Shooting California Deputy Actually you have it backwards but that is par for your course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 https://news.yahoo.com/pledge-dismantle-minneapolis-police-collapsed-155801253.html Oh my god — defunding the police aint working, yall! Who coulda seen that coming?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, Dragoon said: https://news.yahoo.com/pledge-dismantle-minneapolis-police-collapsed-155801253.html Oh my god — defunding the police aint working, yall! Who coulda seen that coming?! Everyone except David Paterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 Reminder: US Police are terrorists LA Sheriffs department making LA look like Fallujah. They made no orders of any kind, lawful or otherwise - they just started attacking innocent people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 9:33 PM, Hedge said: Well that's officially the biggest pile of bull#### I read all day. "He a had a knife so I shot him in the back 7 times" and/or he "thought" he was trying to kindap a child, so he shot him in the back 7 times. Reminds me of "Let's sprinkle some crack on him and get out of here" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/news/daniel-prude-newly-appointed-rochester-232046167.html ...a “mental health emergency” they called it. How do you handle that? Send out thought-n-prayers? Have social workers go give him a hug? Im not glad the guy died — but honestly, what was his value to society and did society really take a loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Dragoon said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/daniel-prude-newly-appointed-rochester-232046167.html ...a “mental health emergency” they called it. How do you handle that? Send out thought-n-prayers? Have social workers go give him a hug? Im not glad the guy died — but honestly, what was his value to society and did society really take a loss? A lot more than if it were you or every single cop in America, apparently. I guess maybe if your spouse, kids, or other family member have a medical emergency and the cops murder them we can just say they didn't have any value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: A lot more than if it were you or every single cop in America, apparently. I guess maybe if your spouse, kids, or other family member have a medical emergency and the cops murder them we can just say they didn't have any value. A crazy person being dangerously crazy....they call it ‘medical emergency.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, Dragoon said: A crazy person being dangerously crazy....they call it ‘medical emergency.’ A medical emergency is what you call a mental health episode if you ever got past elementary school. There's no medical definition of "crazy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: A medical emergency is what you call a mental health episode if you ever got past elementary school. There's no medical definition of "crazy". Right, elementary school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 NY branch of organized police terrorist group charges and attacks pedestrians.. Every single member of the NYPD is a terrorist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Another one of SigHunter's terrorist scumbag friends, I'm sure. Once again - not being charged for murdering a human being, but "murdering" a video tape. #ACAB "A Texas sheriff has been indicted on charges of destroying or concealing video in an investigation into the death in custody of a Black man, Javier Ambler, that was filmed by the police reality TV series “Live PD," prosecutors said Monday. Williamson County Sheriff Robert Chody was booked Monday into his jail on a $10,000 bond and released a short time later. The third-degree felony charge is punishable by up to 10 years in prison. The indictment comes as prosecutors in Austin separately investigate the use of force in Ambler’s death in March 2019, when the 40-year-old former postal worker was pulled over for allegedly failing to dim his headlights to oncoming traffic. The traffic stop was filmed for the real-time police show “Live PD," which was canceled by the A&E Network in June. “The Live PD video would be wholly material to the investigation into use of force,” Travis County District Attorney Margaret Moore said at a news conference. A&E has said its video never aired because of a policy against showing a death, and it did not keep the footage after it was informed that the initial investigation had closed. Ambler died after Williamson County sheriff’s deputies repeatedly used stun guns on him, despite his pleas that he was sick and couldn’t breathe. Chody, a Republican who is running for reelection in November, has faced calls to resign since video of the traffic stop was published by the Austin American-Statesman and KVUE-TV in June." https://www.yahoo.com/news/grand-jury-indicts-texas-sheriff-183123936.html Edited September 30, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 10:46 PM, BullBuchanan said: Reminder: US Police are terrorists LA Sheriffs department making LA look like Fallujah. They made no orders of any kind, lawful or otherwise - they just started attacking innocent people. I’ve been to LA. I’ve been to Fallujah. Yeah, naw dog. No. I mean it’s been a long time since I’ve been to both cities...but, no, man. I love the hyperbole though. A good over exaggeration always gets a giggle outa me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Part of the organized police terrorism group in America is the inclusion of scumbag DA's that they cozy up to. In the case of serial-abuser James Palermo , 13 years of unchecked abuse was quietly swept under the rug in exchange for his badge after someone finally went after this scumbag. And people around here say this is the exception and that most cops are good cops? I say it's the rule, and all cops are terrorist bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Dragoon said: I’ve been to LA. I’ve been to Fallujah. Yeah, naw dog. No. I mean it’s been a long time since I’ve been to both cities...but, no, man. I love the hyperbole though. A good over exaggeration always gets a giggle outa me. Hey! Bull knows all and you know nothing! LA is TOTALLY like Fallujah, except for all the parts where it's NOT! All police are terrorists, and if they do something nice, it's all PROPAGANDA! How can you be so blind? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Reminder: Police are terrorist traitors to their communities, their families, and their country. They are also sadistic filth that take pleasure in murdering people's pets: But as our analysis of the data on officer-involved shootings reveals, between 2010 and 2016, Los Angeles Police Department officers were involved in 417 shootings, with dogs being shot in more than a quarter of cases. For the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, whose officers were involved in 406 incidents between 2010 and 2017, dogs were shot 45.6 percent of the time. More alarming than the number of dogs being shot by police is where dogs are being killed by police, as we discuss in a recent study. Looking at the location of where dogs have been shot across the city and county of Los Angeles, what emerges is a map of deadly police use of force that is highly concentrated in the region’s most impoverished communities of color. In fact, the dog-shooting cluster that we mapped sits within the larger cluster representing where humans are shot by police as well. While arguments are often made about police pulling the trigger when feeling in fear for their lives, the data on dog shootings makes it unmistakably clear that more bullets than most of us realized are flying through particular communities. Our data suggest that dog deaths at the hands of police are a reflection of a larger problem with how state violence is enacted on vulnerable communities in myriad ways. To be clear, to suggest that dogs in some neighborhoods pose a greater deadly risk to police officer safety than dogs in wealthier and whiter neighborhoods simply does not add up. In addition to the fact that no police officer has ever been killed by a dog while in the line of duty, public health research reveals that hospital visits for dog bites that occur across the metropolitan region of Los Angeles overwhelmingly consist of a single puncture wound to a hand of a child, with less than 1 percent of the more than 23,000 bite-related hospital visits between 2009 and 2011 requiring hospitalization of any kind. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/cops-shooting-dogs-police-violence-racism.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Bull, if I post a link with something from Rush how much creedance you gonna give it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Dub said: Bull, if I post a link with something from Rush how much creedance you gonna give it ? LOL Why would anyone care about HIS opinion on anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: LOL Why would anyone care about HIS opinion on anything? When you post things from Slate or SPLC or th ADL or Huffpo...all I'm saying is why would those places be deemed reputable either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dub said: When you post things from Slate or SPLC or th ADL or Huffpo...all I'm saying is why would those places be deemed reputable either A quite fair point. That being said, you're literally asking a moron to not be a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Alaska Darin said: A quite fair point. That being said, you're literally asking a moron to not be a moron. I know 😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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