Ted Yoho is a piece of trash

[3rdnlng]

18 minutes ago, Buftex said:

No, I just come here to see if it is the train-wreck it has always been... I guess there is something oddly comforting in knowing some things never change.

Like your mind? Your underwear? 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

No shock 3rd thing has his mind on another man's underwear. 

[Cinga]

1 hour ago, bilzfancy said:

AOC and the rest of the squad are all anti-American, anti-Semitic female dogs, as are their supporters

Okay folks, I happen to love dogs and can't bear to have them insulted anymore with comparisons to the Squad. However I can't stand cats.... I'm sure I was going somewhere with this argument but not sure I want to insult cats either.... 

[njbuff]

21 minutes ago, Cinga said:

Okay folks, I happen to love dogs and can't bear to have them insulted anymore with comparisons to the Squad. However I can't stand cats.... I'm sure I was going somewhere with this argument but not sure I want to insult cats either.... 

 

Female dogs have more class than those butter-faced rats in that “Goon Squad” of 4 Anti-American misfits.

[SectionC3]

4 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Every time you respond this way it just highlights the fact that you don't have a legitimate response.

 

Hoax.  I have plenty of legitimate responses.  It's just easier to sum up your lies and falsities in a single word.  

 

While we're on the subject, the fact remains that today's subject of your ire (AOC) had the courage to enter the arena and to succeed.  (I note that you still have not identified the angelic "handlers" who catalyzed her success.)  You, on the other hand, sit around and make nasty but anonymous Internet comments about people whose views differ from yours.  That, sir, makes you a loser.  

4 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Every time you post here you get sent packing because you simply are not up to the task of logically discussing anything. 

 

Freudian. 

4 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

personally I was have used the C word with her and would have been prepared to provide supporting material. 

 

Let's see it, big boy.  And this is coming from someone who does not share her politics.  Just because she thinks differently from you (or, perhaps, actually thinks, in contrast to some others here) doesn't mean that she should be denigrated.  So put your money where your mouth is and give us that supporting material.  

3 hours ago, Buftex said:

No, I just come here to see if it is the train-wreck it has always been... I guess there is something oddly comforting in knowing some things never change.

 

FYI - 

 

Since you last appeared here, Mr. Third n' Short has, among other things, 

 

*admitted that he has tiny baby hands,

*Joined the Hoax, Fake News, Nasty Woman, and Suspected Short lists, 

*regularly practiced hate and misogyny, and 

*outed himself as an incel.  

 

So, yes, it probably still is a train wreck. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by SectionC3

[Tiberius]

3 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

No shock 3rd thing has his mind on another man's underwear. 

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Edited July 27, 2020 by Tiberius

[Buftex]

6 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Like your mind? Your underwear? 

How could I deprive myself of such cunning wit?

[Unforgiven]

6 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

No shock 3rd thing has his mind on another man's underwear. 

Warren 'Gary' Zevon sock puppet alert

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

He's a nobody?  

 

So that makes it what?  OK? 

 

They guy is an ass and AOC's reply was spot on.  The Good Old Boy mentality .   Barefoot and Pregnant in the kitchen. 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Dante]

On 7/26/2020 at 5:25 AM, Tiberius said:

9! Wow! 

 

 

Listen, I feel a woman who has a great personality receives a significant power ranking boost. So a solid 7 can achieve a 8 or possible even a 8.5! Keep in mind I was judging AOC off of that music video and solely on looks. Sadly, considering her politics, personality and the company she keeps I'm afraid she doesn't even qualify for a pro ranking

[Reality Check]

 

It's Thursday morning and AOC is still a stupid f*****g b***h.

 

That is all.

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 7/27/2020 at 10:46 AM, IDBillzFan said:

Not true. She almost single-handedly made Amazon pull 40,000 well-paying jobs from NYC...jobs they could probably use right about now.

 

My understanding of the situation was that Amazon demanded over $3 billion in combined public funding and incentivized tax breaks from NYS+NYC, with this demand coming from a trillion-dollar company whose CEO is worth about $190 billion… The speculated (i.e. nowhere near guaranteed!) job creation was estimated at between 25,000-40,000 over a 10-year to 20-year period. In typical Amazonian behavior, the pay for most of the jobs was expected to fall well below the cost of living standards of NYC, so that many prospective employees would have faced crazy work commutes and would have also strained the subway system in certain places. There were also gentrification housing market concerns for the surrounding southwest Queens neighborhood where the massive company headquarters was expected to reside.

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, RealKayAdams said:

 

My understanding of the situation was that Amazon demanded over $3 billion in combined public funding and incentivized tax breaks from NYS+NYC, with this demand coming from a trillion-dollar company whose CEO is worth about $190 billion… The speculated (i.e. nowhere near guaranteed!) job creation was estimated at between 25,000-40,000 over a 10-year to 20-year period. In typical Amazonian behavior, the pay for most of the jobs was expected to fall well below the cost of living standards of NYC, so that many prospective employees would have faced crazy work commutes and would have also strained the subway system in certain places. There were also gentrification housing market concerns for the surrounding southwest Queens neighborhood where the massive company headquarters was expected to reside.

Amazon was offered 2.8 billion in tax breaks and the jobs reportedly averaged 150k a year. As I'm sure you are aware tax breaks are a universal way of incentivizing companies to locate in certain locations. I don't believe that there was any cash up front for Amazon but there could have been infrastructure improvements to public lands, etc. that Amazon would need to open shop. 

[IDBillzFan]

2 hours ago, RealKayAdams said:

 

My understanding of the situation was that Amazon demanded over $3 billion in combined public funding and incentivized tax breaks from NYS+NYC, with this demand coming from a trillion-dollar company whose CEO is worth about $190 billion… The speculated (i.e. nowhere near guaranteed!) job creation was estimated at between 25,000-40,000 over a 10-year to 20-year period. In typical Amazonian behavior, the pay for most of the jobs was expected to fall well below the cost of living standards of NYC, so that many prospective employees would have faced crazy work commutes and would have also strained the subway system in certain places. There were also gentrification housing market concerns for the surrounding southwest Queens neighborhood where the massive company headquarters was expected to reside.

 

I understand what many saw as the concerns about Amazon coming to NYC. We also both know incentivized tax breaks is how cities lure companies to a location, regardless of the CEO's worth. Musk will make out greatly in Texas.

 

But I also know that you, a thoughtful and knowledgeable Bernie backer, are an advocate for the worker. NYC unemployment is over 20% right now, and many of those jobs are dead in the water. Many workers are going to stand there with empty pockets soon thinking about what could have been if Amazon stayed on track to move.

 

That said, I don't expect this to move the needle for AOC. I made the mistake of thinking there were few people left who don't see her as dumb as a brick. I have many friends/colleagues on social media -- people I consider fair-minded and intelligent -- who think she's a rock star. It boggles the mind because she makes Biden sound coherent, but they still love her for some reason, so she'll be a lifer in Congress, undoubtedly.

 

For the record, I also see her as a rock star, but more along the lines of Air Supply performing weekly at the Turning Stone Casino outside Utica.

[3rdnlng]

13 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I understand what many saw as the concerns about Amazon coming to NYC. We also both know incentivized tax breaks is how cities lure companies to a location, regardless of the CEO's worth. Musk will make out greatly in Texas.

 

But I also know that you, a thoughtful and knowledgeable Bernie backer, are an advocate for the worker. NYC unemployment is over 20% right now, and many of those jobs are dead in the water. Many workers are going to stand there with empty pockets soon thinking about what could have been if Amazon stayed on track to move.

 

That said, I don't expect this to move the needle for AOC. I made the mistake of thinking there were few people left who don't see her as dumb as a brick. I have many friends/colleagues on social media -- people I consider fair-minded and intelligent -- who think she's a rock star. It boggles the mind because she makes Biden sound coherent, but they still love her for some reason, so she'll be a lifer in Congress, undoubtedly.

 

For the record, I also see her as a rock star, but more along the lines of Air Supply performing weekly at the Turning Stone Casino outside Utica.

What with all of the companies finding that they can reduce their onsite employees in NYC (and other cities) the restaurant and bar business and other service industries are going to be hurt, especially in Manhattan. I've read that Amazon is snooping around Midtown for massive office space. The only reason (IMO) that they would be doing this is because of the high vacancy rates and lower rent.

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 8/3/2020 at 10:15 AM, 3rdnlng said:

Amazon was offered 2.8 billion in tax breaks and the jobs reportedly averaged 150k a year. As I'm sure you are aware tax breaks are a universal way of incentivizing companies to locate in certain locations. I don't believe that there was any cash up front for Amazon but there could have been infrastructure improvements to public lands, etc. that Amazon would need to open shop. 

 

On 8/3/2020 at 11:10 AM, IDBillzFan said:

I understand what many saw as the concerns about Amazon coming to NYC. We also both know incentivized tax breaks is how cities lure companies to a location, regardless of the CEO's worth. Musk will make out greatly in Texas.

 

But I also know that you, a thoughtful and knowledgeable Bernie backer, are an advocate for the worker. NYC unemployment is over 20% right now, and many of those jobs are dead in the water. Many workers are going to stand there with empty pockets soon thinking about what could have been if Amazon stayed on track to move.

 

Sure, I understand low tax incentivization just as I’m sure everyone here understands lost tax revenue, so thankfully we can all skip deep analyses into boring corporate tax theory! The issue here is that Amazon was trying to negotiate for excessive tax breaks that went way beyond the business standard for NYC. The ever-so-humble citizens of NYC believe they have the best workforce in the world and the greatest quality of life ever, so they don’t very much like outsiders coming here and bullying them into rolling out the red carpet. It was as much about pride and maintaining leverage over future negotiations with companies as it was about Amazon itself. But to be clear, it was most definitely also about taking a general stand against this company’s monopolistic and anti-worker policies (mainly in the form of no allowed labor unions and poor warehouse safety practices…issues that former Staten Island employees, Rashad Long and Christian Smalls, famously brought to the fore). At some point, politicians need to start playing hardball with companies taking advantage of workers. Not all job creation must necessarily be encouraged. Everyone would be okay with AOC’s stance on NYC Amazon, for example, if they were discovered to be somehow hiring children somewhere in the US at slave wages. So we acknowledge that a line exists and that it’s just a matter of how far you’re willing to go to support workers.

 

I also want to reiterate that the future Amazon jobs were loosely estimated at 25-40k over 10-20 years, so few would have been immediately ready during the pandemic, nor were they ever fully guaranteed to exist. Those median estimated $150k jobs (not a big deal in NYC, anyway, given the cost of living here) were expected to be primarily in financial management and marketing and could have theoretically been done from home. So they weren’t exactly the type of blue-collar service jobs that have been hit the hardest by far from NYC’s pandemic shutdown.

 

The cancelled Amazon NYC headquarters debate is such a fascinating one because it underscores the major ideological divide right now between the country’s political left and right. Much more interesting than the childish Ted Yoho spat, anyway! To be ever so slightly fair to Amazon, I’ve heard very little from their side of the negotiation story.

[3rdnlng]

4 hours ago, RealKayAdams said:

 

 

Sure, I understand low tax incentivization just as I’m sure everyone here understands lost tax revenue, so thankfully we can all skip deep analyses into boring corporate tax theory! The issue here is that Amazon was trying to negotiate for excessive tax breaks that went way beyond the business standard for NYC. The ever-so-humble citizens of NYC believe they have the best workforce in the world and the greatest quality of life ever, so they don’t very much like outsiders coming here and bullying them into rolling out the red carpet. It was as much about pride and maintaining leverage over future negotiations with companies as it was about Amazon itself. But to be clear, it was most definitely also about taking a general stand against this company’s monopolistic and anti-worker policies (mainly in the form of no allowed labor unions and poor warehouse safety practices…issues that former Staten Island employees, Rashad Long and Christian Smalls, famously brought to the fore). At some point, politicians need to start playing hardball with companies taking advantage of workers. Not all job creation must necessarily be encouraged. Everyone would be okay with AOC’s stance on NYC Amazon, for example, if they were discovered to be somehow hiring children somewhere in the US at slave wages. So we acknowledge that a line exists and that it’s just a matter of how far you’re willing to go to support workers.

 

I also want to reiterate that the future Amazon jobs were loosely estimated at 25-40k over 10-20 years, so few would have been immediately ready during the pandemic, nor were they ever fully guaranteed to exist. Those median estimated $150k jobs (not a big deal in NYC, anyway, given the cost of living here) were expected to be primarily in financial management and marketing and could have theoretically been done from home. So they weren’t exactly the type of blue-collar service jobs that have been hit the hardest by far from NYC’s pandemic shutdown.

 

The cancelled Amazon NYC headquarters debate is such a fascinating one because it underscores the major ideological divide right now between the country’s political left and right. Much more interesting than the childish Ted Yoho spat, anyway! To be ever so slightly fair to Amazon, I’ve heard very little from their side of the negotiation story.

Companies I'm familiar with take the position of making conditions/pay good enough so that there is no need for a union. By law, no company can prevent the formation of a union. 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Companies I'm familiar with take the position of making conditions/pay good enough so that there is no need for a union. By law, no company can prevent the formation of a union. 

Who decides what is "good enough" pay? The market? 

[RochesterRob]

On 7/27/2020 at 12:07 PM, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

No shock 3rd thing has his mind on another man's underwear. 

  You can smell Tiberius from 50 miles away hence the recommendation to change his underwear.  There is nothing more to it for the rest of us but if you libs want to kick off a circle jerk then that is your business.

[3rdnlng]

44 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Who decides what is "good enough" pay? The market? 

Yes.