Tiberius Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Sides with Republicans so an easier way to vote will be a president setting matter. They could have waited and used mail in ballots, just like they might have to do in November. “They had things -- levels of voting that if you ever agreed to it you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”--Yup, if the people can easily vote... Quote Just the caption of the case — Republican National Committee v. Democratic National Committee — was foreboding for a Supreme Court that likes to cast itself as above partisan politics. Little wonder then that just hours after the court’s hastily written, 5 to 4 decision for Republicans in Tuesday’s election in Wisconsin, it was being denounced on social media as the latest version of Bush v. Gore. The scant, 10-page opinion issued Monday night highlighted the court’s ideological and partisan divide. The justices’ inability to speak with one voice on matters as serious as the coronavirus pandemic and voting rights raised concerns about the legal battles bound to proliferate before the fall elections. Supreme Court splits along ideological lines in Wisconsin ballot case “It is a very bad sign for November that the court could not come together and find some form of compromise here in the midst of a global pandemic unlike anything we have seen in our lifetimes,” Richard Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California at Irvine, wrote on his Election Law Blog. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-for-republicans-over-wisconsin-vote-highlighting-partisan-divide-before-november-poll/2020/04/07/ed18b1e0-78d5-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 voter ID. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: voter ID. Exactly, get voter ID going and remote voting becomes a slam dunk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: That's right, the man of the people, you know the people are against your sick President and political party. FU scum bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: Exactly, get voter ID going and remote voting becomes a slam dunk. would absolutely love, love, love to see it put on the blockchain. it would remove all question and corruption. and for that reason, it will never happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Foxx said: would absolutely love, love, love to see it put on the blockchain. it would remove all question and corruption. and for that reason, it will never happen. Can't be done before November during a pandemic. You still want voters going out to get this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Can't be done before November during a pandemic. You still want voters going out to get this? i don't want the Dems, or anyone for that matter, to cheat. you don't justify one evil with another. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Foxx said: i don't want the Dems, or anyone for that matter, to cheat. you don't justify one evil with another. That's just an excuse for voter suppression. Let them vote by mail in ballot, in every state. Nancy will have that in the next bailout bill. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's just an excuse for voter suppression. Let them vote by mail in ballot, in every state. Nancy will have that in the next bailout bill. ? i don't care what Nancy puts where, it ain't happening so you might as well accept that now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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US Egg Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, Tiberius said: FU scum bag! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boatdrinks Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: That's just an excuse for voter suppression. Let them vote by mail in ballot, in every state. Nancy will have that in the next bailout bill. ? “ Voter suppression” is a liberal talking point meaning “ making it difficult to cheat”. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Call the whambulance someone got a boo boo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Sides with Republicans so an easier way to vote will be a president setting matter. They could have waited and used mail in ballots, just like they might have to do in November. “They had things -- levels of voting that if you ever agreed to it you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”--Yup, if the people can easily vote... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-for-republicans-over-wisconsin-vote-highlighting-partisan-divide-before-november-poll/2020/04/07/ed18b1e0-78d5-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html So, voting needs to be made easier so more democrats can vote? Not sure I even want the people that are that stupid actually deciding who the leaders of our country are. Is this admission that the democrats are victims because of their low intelligence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: So, voting needs to be made easier so more democrats can vote? Not sure I even want the people that are that stupid actually deciding who the leaders of our country are. Is this admission that the democrats are victims because of their low intelligence? Look man, the dead can't go to the polls and cast a vote in person. They need this so that their deceased voices can be heard. Forcing them to prove who they are by obtaining photo ID is wrong, and bad, and badwrong. Why are you racist against the deadites? They just want to vote uniformly Democrat and be left alone! They don't have time for your racist hate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Why shouldn't everyone with a Social Security # be issued a unique voter ID at the age of 18? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Why shouldn't everyone with a Social Security # be issued a unique voter ID at the age of 18? Because the system itself is illegitimate, democratic governance is a fraud perpetrated on the common man by the power elite to protect themselves, and the state, itself being illegitimate, does not have the just authority to compel individuals onto it’s voter roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: democratic governance is a fraud I wonder where I've seen THIS point made before. Unfortunately, your logical conclusion/remedy is fallacious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Because the system itself is illegitimate, democratic governance is a fraud perpetrated on the common man by the power elite to protect themselves, and the state, itself being illegitimate, does not have the just authority to compel individuals onto it’s voter roles. Violence is inherent in the system and we're all being repressed! Let me know when and where to show up with my family pitchfork... In any event, everyone should have the right to vote. I'd personally like to be able to look my number up in my state's public ledger and know that my vote wasn't manipulated. There are others who want to ensure dead people can't vote, and there others concerned about large portions of the population being dropped from voting roles. I think everyone should be issued a unique federal voting # matched to your social security # when it comes time to register for Selective Services. Let's make it easier and fairer for everyone who wants to vote to do so, and make it more difficult to manipulate. Edited April 8, 2020 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: I wonder where I've seen THIS point made before. Unfortunately, your logical conclusion/remedy is fallacious. On the scale of legitimacy, it’s certainly more legitimate than the totalitarian/monarchal state you advocate, Joe. No state is legitimate. It’s all a guise. Democracy simply pulls a veil over the eyes of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Violence is inherent in the system and we're all being repressed! Let me know when and where to show up with my family pitchfork... In any event, everyone should have the right to vote. I'd personally like to be able to look my number up in my state's public ledger and know that my vote wasn't manipulated. There are others who want to ensure dead people can't vote, and there others concerned about large portions of the population being dropped from voting roles. I think everyone should be issued a unique federal voting # matched to your social security # when it comes time to register for Selective Services. Let's make it easier and fairer for everyone who wants to vote to do so, and make it more difficult to manipulate. Again, the vote is not legitimate. Far less than 50% of the eligible population, a segment which is chosen by the power elite to better ensure the protection of their power, actually chooses to vote; and of the less than 50% of the voting population, which represents approximately 1/3 of the total population, approximately 1/2 of that presumes to dictate to the entire country. To summarize: less than 20% of the country presumes to dictate to the more than 80% how they shall live. That’s not legitimate, and a system cannot self-legitimize by demanding that more people simply participate in the sham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Again, the vote is not legitimate. Far less than 50% of the eligible population, a segment which is chosen by the power elite to better ensure the protection of their power, actually chooses to vote; and of the less than 50% of the voting population, which represents approximately 1/3 of the total population, approximately 1/2 of that presumes to dictate to the entire country. To summarize: less than 20% of the country presumes to dictate to the more than 80% how they shall live. That’s not legitimate, and a system cannot self-legitimize by demanding that more people simply participate in the sham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: But of course you’d say that. You’re in the less than 40% of the fools protecting the criminals who call themselves leaders while they steal from your children when they aren’t raping them. Edited April 8, 2020 by TakeYouToTasker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: But of course you’d say that. You’re in the less than 40% of the fools protecting the criminals who call themselves leaders while they steal from your children when they aren’t raping them. Let me get this straight, by being for an end to voter suppression, vote manipulation and generally believing that a more informed and civic minded population can bring about a more just world I'm enabling the rape and death of children? You must be fun at parties! So what if you, like the working class in the Holy Grail are right, what do you propose be done to end the inherent evils of the nation state and the horrors of the vote? Edited April 8, 2020 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eobuu-IexvI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Let me get this straight, by being for an end to voter suppression, vote manipulation and generally believing that a more informed and civic minded population can bring about a more just world I'm enabling the rape and death of children? You must be fun at parties! So what if you, like the working class in the Holy Grail are right, what do you propose be done to end the inherent evils of the nation state and the horrors of the vote? Agorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Agorism. And what is the plan for gigantic corporations to give up their access to power and control? When in history was there ever a free market where the parties with the most power and money treated anyone equally and without competing for monopolistic control? And just to get this straight, all nations should dissolve their constitutions, all states, counties, cites and towns end their charters in order to usher in the voluntary rule of the market? How do you get them to agree to that? Edited April 8, 2020 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Motorin' said: And what is the plan for gigantic corporations to give up their access to power and control? When in history was there ever a free market where the parties with the most power and money treated anyone equally and without competing for monopolistic control? And just to get this straight, all nations should dissolve their constitutions, all states, counties, cites and towns end their charters in order to usher in the voluntary rule of the market? How do you get them to agree to that? Agorism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Agorism. Later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Later. Later, like when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Tibs. I got drunk on a Zoom chat tonight and I am still making more sense than you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Quote John Hickenlooper, a geologist and small-business owner, is a former Democratic mayor of Denver and governor of Colorado. He is running for U.S. Senate. The election chaos in Wisconsin on Tuesday sent a clear message: The nation can’t afford a repeat in November. Poll workers, many of them vulnerable senior citizens, and voters were forced to risk covid-19 infection to participate in American democracy, with scandalously long lines at the few polling places that were open in some areas. Gov. Tony Evers (D) had issued an executive order to reschedule the election, but Republicans fought against it and the state’s Supreme Court blocked it. Republicans also attacked a sensible proposal by Evers to essentially turn the election into one conducted by mail, with absentee ballots sent to every registered voter. President Trump has lately chimed in with criticism that mail-in balloting is “horrible,” “corrupt” and invites “fraud.” That hasn’t been our experience in Colorado. We’ve been voting from home for six years. As governor in 2013, I signed the Voter Access and Modernized Elections Act, a law supported by Democratic and Republican county clerks across Colorado. Here’s how it works: Every eligible Colorado voter receives a ballot in the mail roughly three weeks before Election Day, and after marking their choices from the comfort of their own home, voters mail the ballot back or deposit it at one of the hundreds of drop-off locations around the state (and put on their “I Voted” sticker). We also make it possible for voters to register through Election Day, and to vote in person. Denver city and county voters even have the ability to track the status of their ballots, with email or text notifications, as they travel through the postal system. The “Ballot TRACE” software ensures that every mailed ballot is accounted for. We’re not alone. Oregon has conducted its elections, including the presidential contest, exclusively by mail for two decades. Washington, like Colorado, strongly encourages mail-in ballots for every election but also allows for in-person voting. Many other states permit mail-in voting for some of their elections. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/08/my-state-has-proved-vote-at-home-works-we-need-do-it-nationally/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 They didn't have to go and vote in the primary. Trump is running unopposed and the dens had choice between a commie and a senile old perv/ neither of which could beat Trump. Wake up and face the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I wonder if there is a correlation between the relaxation of voting standards and a move towards turning a state bluer? Gleeful Gator has already stated that he wants voting to be easier so that the less intelligent have a better chance to vote for democrats. Normally democrats aren't so clear thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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