B-Man Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 ILYA SHAPIRO: Broad Lockdowns Are No Longer Constitutionally Justified. States have the “police power” to govern for the general health, welfare and safety of society, so long as they have sufficient justification for doing so. But that doesn’t mean that there’s no limit on the actions that state and local officials can take, or that actions that were justified at one point will continue to be justified forever, regardless of underlying developments. In other words, it’s prudent in a pandemic to restrict activities that would otherwise bring people together in a way that facilitates viral transmission, but it doesn’t mean governors get to “shut down” anything and everything on a whim. Recall that viral video of the guy running along the beach in California, chased by a hapless cop. Or that dad who got arrested for playing catch with his kids in a public park. Or mayoral edicts that stop drive-in church but permit drive-thru liquor sales. Or the Michigan order banning motorboats but not sailboats; the sale of seeds but not weed. . . . As the facts on the ground change, government actions that once were grudgingly accepted now simply don’t pass the constitutional smell test. That’s especially so given the fundamental error that was made in ordering shutdowns based on arbitrary definitions of “essentiality,” as opposed to issuing rules according to the safety of various activities. Yes. 1
BillStime Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Yet another case of “do as I say”... #Covidiots Home-Bound Locked-Down <em>Fox & Friends</em> Implores New Yorkers to Defy Stay at Home Orders
B-Man Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Defiant Baltimore Pastor Tears Up Cease-and-Desist Order During Sermon, Welcomes Authorities to Take Action
shoshin Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Defiant Baltimore Pastor Tears Up Cease-and-Desist Order During Sermon, Welcomes Authorities to Take Action I remember the last pastor who tried this. Maybe it's a test of which sect has the right answer?
Azalin Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, shoshin said: I remember the last pastor who tried this. Maybe it's a test of which sect has the right answer? If that's the case, then the atheists win hands down. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, shoshin said: I remember the last pastor who tried this. Maybe it's a test of which sect has the right answer? Quick, everyone! Hide under your bed. 1
Doc Brown Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 16 hours ago, B-Man said: OHIO JUDGE DEEMS THE STATE’S COVID-19 LOCKDOWN ‘ARBITRARY, UNREASONABLE, AND OPPRESSIVE.’ I'd trust the Ohio governor given he pry was the best in the country at responding to this virus.
snafu Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 5 hours ago, B-Man said: If you live in this world, you’re feeling the change of the guard. Great song. Gets stuck in my head often. 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Needs a Snickers bar.
B-Man Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 THREE FEET SOUNDS A LOT BETTER: There’s little “science” behind the six-foot social-distancing rule. A U.K. expert says that the country’s two-meter rule is based on “very fragile evidence” and is probably excessive. Sweden, Norway, Austria and Finland are getting by with one-meter distancing, which makes it much easier for restaurants and other businesses to reopen.
B-Man Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) JAMES BOVARD ASKS AN EVERGREEN QUESTION: Will the Political Class Be Held Liable For What They’ve Done? And the evergreen answer: When has it ever been? “Shutting down entire states, including vast uninfected rural swaths, is the economic equivalent of burning witches or sacrificing virgins to appease angry viral gods. Because politicians have no liability for the economic damage they inflict, they have no incentive to minimize the disruptions they decree. . . . Even New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who callously compelled nursing homes to accept COVID patients, will have no legal culpability for a policy that contributed to more than 5,000 nursing home deaths in his state. Pennsylvania Health Czar Rachel Levine issued a similar order, contributing to thousands of nursing home deaths, and then removed her own 95-year-old mother from a nursing home to keep her safe.” I’m willing to cut people a lot of slack in dealing with something unprecedented on limited information. But so many of the actions were taken with so much asserted certainty about things that turned out to be wrong, because “science.” Edited May 22, 2020 by B-Man 4
B-Man Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Who Believes the Lockdowns Were About Science? by David Catron Original Article Every state and local politician who imposed lockdowns pursuant to the COVID-19 pandemic claimed their decisions were based on “the science.” In reality, they ignored the advice of leading epidemiologists, relying instead on statistical models produced by “experts” with histories of wildly inaccurate projections. The most notorious of these oracles was, of course, Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London, who claimed that coronavirus could kill 2.2 million Americans. Based on such apocalyptic predictions, combined with overcautious warnings from Beltway bureaucrats like Dr. Anthony Fauci, all but a few governors implemented economically destructive stay-at-home orders — despite the reservations of respected epidemiologists who questioned the logic of lockdowns from the beginning.
B-Man Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 ‘Never seen numbers like this’: San Francisco area doctors say they’ve seen more deaths from suicide than coronavirus during lockdown 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: ‘Never seen numbers like this’: San Francisco area doctors say they’ve seen more deaths from suicide than coronavirus during lockdown The "cure" has always been worse than the "disease." I'm getting tired of being right. 1
Koko78 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: uh huh Wait, is Fauci an anti-Trump hero or a Trump lapdog this week? I lost track. 3
3rdnlng Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: uh huh Seems like he talks out of both sides of his mouth. 5
shoshin Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Source: All PA counties including Philly area to move to at least "Yellow Phase" starting on June 4. Some PA counties moving to green (which means zero restrictions). https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-pa-pennsylvania-yellow-counties-reopening-philadelphia-20200522.html Wolf has been slow to move but he's getting the memo.
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