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On 7/10/2020 at 5:12 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:


AND they are only letting 10% visitors in. So, if the facility has 200 residents, only 20 visitors (per day? at a time?). She is going to find out if they have a list (appointment) and realizes she will not be able to see him daily until the restrictions are loosened (she used to go for 6 hours a day, every day).

 

 

The article said that 10 residents could have visitors at a time at a 100 home facility.  But a home like that would have to have at least 2 areas for visitors to meet residents as only 10 total people could be in 1 area at a time.

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4 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

The article said that 10 residents could have visitors at a time at a 100 home facility.  But a home like that would have to have at least 2 areas for visitors to meet residents as only 10 total people could be in 1 area at a time.


They sent out a press release before informing the nursing homes about anything. When my mother called, she was the second person they had heard from and the staff at his nursing home knew nothing. Starts Wednesday {crosses fingers} Since there is a limit of two visitors per resident (10/100, limit 2 people per resident), we all told her we would back off until she gave us the all clear.

The 10 total people in one area is going to really cause havoc at mealtimes.

 

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15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


They sent out a press release before informing the nursing homes about anything. When my mother called, she was the second person they had heard from and the staff at his nursing home knew nothing. Starts Wednesday {crosses fingers} Since there is a limit of two visitors per resident (10/100, limit 2 people per resident), we all told her we would back off until she gave us the all clear.

The 10 total people in one area is going to really cause havoc at mealtimes.

 

 

Spending the month in Saratoga Springs for a bunch of reasons. Driving on Saturday morning, I saw a bunch of people outside an apartment building on lawn chairs facing the building. I thought it looked odd until I realized it was a nursing home and they were talking to loved ones through the windows. I got choked up once I realized. 

 

I used to visit my brother in prison for 7 years. Our visits seemed better than that setup. I hope it doesn't last much longer.

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26 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

Spending the month in Saratoga Springs for a bunch of reasons. Driving on Saturday morning, I saw a bunch of people outside an apartment building on lawn chairs facing the building. I thought it looked odd until I realized it was a nursing home and they were talking to loved ones through the windows. I got choked up once I realized. 

 

I used to visit my brother in prison for 7 years. Our visits seemed better than that setup. I hope it doesn't last much longer.

I’ve got to ask. What did your brother do? 

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32 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

Spending the month in Saratoga Springs for a bunch of reasons. Driving on Saturday morning, I saw a bunch of people outside an apartment building on lawn chairs facing the building. I thought it looked odd until I realized it was a nursing home and they were talking to loved ones through the windows. I got choked up once I realized. 

 

I used to visit my brother in prison for 7 years. Our visits seemed better than that setup. I hope it doesn't last much longer.


I am sorry to hear about your brother. I hope he is now out. 
 

My father’s nursing home has a large picture window and those that could see well enough and recognize people, did have those types of visits (my father can do neither most days). People would hold up signs for the residents they were visiting. No way could a conversation be had. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ve got to ask. What did your brother do? 


It’s a really inspiring story in the end. I’ll send you a link. He’s been written up, interviewed, and even had some writers start to reach out. Who knows: Maybe my little brother will go Hollywood!

 

But it was a long 7 years and his story is the far extreme end of the bell curve outcome.  

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13 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

Nut job housewife cook and blatherer  tries logic....fails...WTF does this even mean other than to support the concept that the virus is still relevant enough that closed public gathering places can’t open yet?

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

 

 The source aside (Jesus really?), that goes against what they are seeing elsewhere with kids and transmission. 

 

Today will an interesting catchup day. I expect us to be well back above 1000 deaths, which is just a number but it was nice to be below it for so long. 

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“The emergency” continues in Minnesota. So declared Governor Walz by executive order extending his rule by decree for another 30 days yesterday. That would be executive order number 78 for the year. He won’t be yielding control back to his subjects any time soon. Indeed, he is mulling over a statewide mandate to wear masks.

 

Unfortunately for us, the end of one-man rule requires either self-restraint by the governor or the concurrence of both houses of the Minnesota legislature.

 

Only the Minnesota Senate thinks continued one-man rule is a bad idea at this point.

 

New deaths attributed to the epidemic have cratered. In the past three days, for example, the authorities have reported four (7/11), three (7/12), and two (7/13) new deaths. Six of the 9 new deaths occurred among residents of long-term care facilities. As I noted over the weekend, the median age of decedents as last reported is 83.6. The number of hospitalizations attributed to the disease would be unnoticeable under normal circumstances. It should be difficult to sustain the panic and to make the case that one-man rule is warranted on these facts.

 

New cases continue to accumulate, but the new cases are trending younger. The median age is now down to 37.6 — a good thing because the risk of serious health consequences is so much lower for the young.

 

That’s not quite the way Pulitzer Prize-winning Star Tribune health care reporter Jeremy Olson puts it in his daily reports, such as this one yesterday. Olson writes:

The two deaths reported Monday — both involving people 80 or older — represented the lowest daily total since April 13.

 

Deaths remain more common among people who are older or have underlying health conditions [translation: they account for some 98 percent of all deaths attributed to the epidemic]. People 70 and older make up only 10% of known cases but 81% of deaths. Only two deaths have been reported among people 29 and younger, even though they make up 35% of the state’s known infections.

 

State health officials worry that a recent uptick in COVID-19 cases among young adults and teenagers could spread the virus to people at higher risk — which would result in more deaths and hospitalizations.

 

 

Olson faithfully conveys the alleged state of mind of “state health officials.” He tacitly supports the reasonableness of their alleged fears. 

 

 

More at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/coronavirus-in-one-state-71.php

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, shoshin said:

 

 

Today will an interesting catchup day. I expect us to be well back above 1000 deaths, which is just a number but it was nice to be below it for so long. 

 

Unless CA or TX puts out a huge number of deaths, we may not be above 1000, which would be surprising and welcome data given the rise at the end of last week. 

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