shoshin Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: I'm one who believes we should open back up as soon as is possible once the risks have been mitigated, but when President Trump issued his guidelines for reopening last Friday, he suggested that reopening was "implementable on a statewide basis at governors' discretion." And yet four days later, the attorney general is threatening governors with legal action if they impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus. So what's changed between last Friday and today? No wonder governors get so frustrated with Trump. If anything, Trump is never ever consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: I'm one who believes we should open back up as soon as is possible once the risks have been mitigated, but when President Trump issued his guidelines for reopening last Friday, he suggested that reopening was "implementable on a statewide basis at governors' discretion." And yet four days later, the attorney general is threatening governors with legal action if they impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus. So what's changed between last Friday and today? No wonder governors get so frustrated with Trump. By reading his quotes, I think he wasn't necessarily speaking about the stay-at-home orders as much as some of the more onerous and stringent directives that some of the governors are imposing on their citizenry. Most likely some of the ones we are hearing out of Michigan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Medical Experts Appear on ‘Life, Liberty, and Levin’ to Urge Leaders to Reopen America. Restaurants’ bailout problem: Unemployment pays more. I get the feeling that expanded payouts are mostly a sop to #FightFor15, but really it will just speed up the move to automation. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Deliberate blindness ? San Jose mayor says large gatherings ‘are not realistic’ until 2021. Flashback: San Jose Mayor Justifies Mob Violence. Related: Los Angeles Mayor Says He May Block Major Events Until 2021. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Thousands of small-business owners’ data may have been exposed by breach on SBA disaster-loan site NEW YORK — Thousands of small business owners reeling from the aggressive measures taken to halt the spread of the coronavirus may have had their personal information exposed last month on a government website that handles disaster loan applications. The Small Business Administration said Tuesday that the personal information of more than 7,000 business owners applying for economic injury disaster loans was potentially seen by other applicants on the SBA website on March 25. The SBA said only the disaster loan program was affected, not the Paycheck Protection Program, which did not begin until April 3 and which is handled by a separate system. ... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The Georgia Governor is on Fox right now... Martha MacCallum asked him WHY would you open up hair dressers, nail salons, and tattoo parlors first? Governor: Because those are the businesses that are closed. He's also talking about all the hospitals that are paying off because they do not have work (elective surgeries, etc). Businesses can do temperature screening on their employees. He's making a lot of sense. His state will be watched closely, I am sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Sadly, this will become more common as shutdowns continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Making his "friend's" suicide political. Sounds like a real winner.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, LeGOATski said: Making his "friend's" suicide political. Sounds like a real winner.... Actually, many people have pointed out this will be an issue going forward. There are stats that show how much suicide rises in a time of big unemployment. When you have lost everything, suicide does happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: The Georgia Governor is on Fox right now... Martha MacCallum asked him WHY would you open up hair dressers, nail salons, and tattoo parlors first? Governor: Because those are the businesses that are closed. He's also talking about all the hospitals that are paying off because they do not have work (elective surgeries, etc). Businesses can do temperature screening on their employees. He's making a lot of sense. His state will be watched closely, I am sure. She keeps asking about screening, but I don’t think business will be screening nearly the amount that some people think. It’s just not a realistic proposition. Perhaps waivers will need to be signed for gyms, etc. A temperature screening is probably about it. We’re not going to be able to test people on the spot to enter establishments etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Actually, many people have pointed out this will be an issue going forward. There are stats that show how much suicide rises in a time of big unemployment. When you have lost everything, suicide does happen. Tons of people were laid off and found a way to not off themselves. That's a personal problem. Many more are also dying from the virus.. This guy's just making it all about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Tons of people were laid off and found a way to not off themselves. That's a personal problem. Many more are also dying from the virus.. This guy's just making it all about him. None of us know what might plunge another into despair. Of course , it’s all personal. The virus is a personal thing too. Many will have no symptoms, some will have a mild cold or cough, others will get extremely sick for a time, and others will ultimately succumb to it. Completely depending on individual health and genetics, and therefore personal. Everyone will be exposed to it eventually, like the common cold or influenza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: None of us know what might plunge another into despair. Of course , it’s all personal. The virus is a personal thing too. Many will have no symptoms, some will have a mild cold or cough, others will get extremely sick for a time, and others will ultimately succumb to it. Completely depending on individual health and genetics, and therefore personal. Everyone will be exposed to it eventually, like the common cold or influenza. ...and are you throwing f-bombs around on Twitter because of it, blaming other people? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, LeGOATski said: ...and are you throwing f-bombs around on Twitter because of it, blaming other people? Lol I am not, but then again I don’t do twitter or other social media. Many do though, and I’d expect this kind of thing to become more common as things go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I am not, but then again I don’t do twitter or other social media. Many do though, and I’d expect this kind of thing to become more common as things go on. Me neither. Stupid people yelling on Twitter will probably become more common, lol. That's pretty much all Twitter has been good for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Tons of people were laid off and found a way to not off themselves. That's a personal problem. Many more are also dying from the virus.. This guy's just making it all about him. it is pretty well proven that in times of economic downturns, the suicide rate rises. don't like it all you want, doesn't change facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Me neither. Stupid people yelling on Twitter will probably become more common, lol. That's pretty much all Twitter has been good for. More common? That's pretty much most of what Twitter has been since it started. People screaming at each other, and celebrities endorsing products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: it is pretty well proven that in times of economic downturns, the suicide rate rises. don't like it all you want, doesn't change facts. I haven't argued that at all. Just pointing out a loser who uses his "friend's" suicide to draw attention to himself. I guess you like that? On the flip side, its like someone's grandmother dying and then they get on Twitter to yell "***** you!" at people who want to open back up. 3 minutes ago, /dev/null said: More common? That's pretty much most of what Twitter has been since it started. People screaming at each other, and celebrities endorsing products Yeah, this is America. We can max it out if we work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I haven't argued that at all. Just pointing out a loser who uses his "friend's" suicide to draw attention to himself. I guess you like that? On the flip side, its like someone's grandmother dying and then they get on Twitter to yell "***** you!" at people who want to open back up. ... nah. it was about his friend who committed suicide and his grieving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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