Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-bernie-sanderss-momentum-builds-down-ballot-democrats-move-to-distance-themselves/2020/02/22/3364ddd8-5516-11ea-9e47-59804be1dcfb_story.html Former astronaut Mark Kelly, the Democratic Party’s hope for flipping a U.S. Senate seat in Arizona, tried to do no harm this month when he was asked about Sen. Bernie Sanders. “I will ultimately support who the nominee is of the Democratic Party,” he said. That was enough for Kelly’s Republican rival, Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.), who is trailing him in early polls, to go on the attack. The television spot she debuted days later spent nearly as much time talking about plans by the democratic socialist from Vermont to raise taxes and award new benefits to undocumented immigrants as it did about Kelly. “I can tell you that there are a lot of down-ballot jitters based on my conversations with my former colleagues,” said former Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.), a longtime confidant of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi who led congressional election efforts from 2011 to 2015. “Donald Trump is going to offer the American people this choice: Do you want to continue building the economy or do you want to lurch toward socialism? And that is a real powerful argument in the Democratic districts that Trump won in 2016.” “Our data shows that all of our potential nominees, including Sanders, have a pathway to victory, but it isn’t guaranteed,” said Guy Cecil, chairman of Priorities USA, a Democratic super PAC that has polled heavily in the key presidential swing states. “This election will be close regardless of who we nominate.” But there is far less flexibility for candidates in smaller districts. That has prompted Republicans to celebrate as they look to reclaim ground they lost in 2018 when largely affluent suburbs rebelled against the GOP in a protest of Trump. “The Democrats’ embrace of socialism is going to cost them their majority — I mean, it’s as simple as that,” said Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. “Bernie is about as good a contrast as we could have ever hoped for.” Democrats, particularly those representing swing districts, agree. “We flipped those seats [in 2018] because of Donald Trump,” said one House Democrat who represents a suburban district, speaking on the condition of anonymity to reflect internal discussions. “And if Democrats want to hand most of those back, put Bernie at the top of the ticket. And that’s how many of us feel.” The House member added: “Our overarching priority [is] to replace the president, but to do so with someone who is going to be equally divisive does not serve the country’s interests, and I think that’s at the core of what is making so many so uncomfortable.” “The suburbs are not looking for a revolution,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of Third Way. “They want change, for sure. Many of them loathe Trump with a burning passion, but they do not want somebody who is proposing to double the size of the federal government. They do not want somebody who is proposing to take away the health care of 180 million people.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: Basically Oh, but, he can beat Trump. Just losing the House might make it a hollow victory. Executive orders, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Sure hope the House gets flipped so there’s a clear path to retribution. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Basically Oh, but, he can beat Trump. Just losing the House might make it a hollow victory. Executive orders, though.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Foxx said: Sanders is obviously not my choice, so yes I am not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sanders is obviously not my choice, so yes I am not happy. well, to be fair, fair is fair. you reap what you sow. all the Russia, Russia, Russia hysteria horseshit is now roosting firmly in your backyard. congratulations! Edited February 23, 2020 by Foxx 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 ...BDS....Bernie Derangement Syndrome......... MSNBC's Chris Matthews compares Sanders' Nevada win to France's fall to Nazis, draws calls for his firing By Brie Stimson | Fox News MSNBC’s Chris Matthews drew ire on social media Saturday after he compared the Nevada Democratic caucus victory of U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders to France's fall to the Nazis during World War II. “I'm reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940," Matthews said during the network's caucus coverage. "And the general calls up Churchill and says, ‘It’s over,’ and Churchill says, ‘How can it be? You got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over?’ He said, ‘It's over.’” The backlash on Twitter was swift and severe, with many commenters calling for Matthews to resign or be fired. Many pointed out that Sanders' family includes survivors of the Holocaust. https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbcs-chris-matthews-compares-sanders-nevada-win-to-frances-fall-to-nazis-draws-calls-for-his-firing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...BDS....Bernie Derangement Syndrome......... MSNBC's Chris Matthews compares Sanders' Nevada win to France's fall to Nazis, draws calls for his firing By Brie Stimson | Fox News MSNBC’s Chris Matthews drew ire on social media Saturday after he compared the Nevada Democratic caucus victory of U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders to France's fall to the Nazis during World War II. “I'm reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940," Matthews said during the network's caucus coverage. "And the general calls up Churchill and says, ‘It’s over,’ and Churchill says, ‘How can it be? You got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over?’ He said, ‘It's over.’” The backlash on Twitter was swift and severe, with many commenters calling for Matthews to resign or be fired. Many pointed out that Sanders' family includes survivors of the Holocaust. https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbcs-chris-matthews-compares-sanders-nevada-win-to-frances-fall-to-nazis-draws-calls-for-his-firing holy ***** lmaoooo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...BDS....Bernie Derangement Syndrome......... MSNBC's Chris Matthews compares Sanders' Nevada win to France's fall to Nazis, draws calls for his firing By Brie Stimson | Fox News MSNBC’s Chris Matthews drew ire on social media Saturday after he compared the Nevada Democratic caucus victory of U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders to France's fall to the Nazis during World War II. “I'm reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940," Matthews said during the network's caucus coverage. "And the general calls up Churchill and says, ‘It’s over,’ and Churchill says, ‘How can it be? You got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over?’ He said, ‘It's over.’” The backlash on Twitter was swift and severe, with many commenters calling for Matthews to resign or be fired. Many pointed out that Sanders' family includes survivors of the Holocaust. https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbcs-chris-matthews-compares-sanders-nevada-win-to-frances-fall-to-nazis-draws-calls-for-his-firing They lost the air war even before the German invasion began....Air superiority meant you can see the enemy and hide your own movements, and you can bomb the enemy of course. France was blind, slow and mute. Sorry, this is one of my pet subjects, the Battle of France. Such an avoidable defeat. Maybe like my Democrats ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Bernie's rise to me just shows how many lazy freeloaders there are in US. When mom's basement is just not good enough... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Albwan said: Bernie's rise to me just shows how many lazy freeloaders there are in US. When mom's basement is just not good enough... What it also shows is just how pissed EVERYONE, on both sides, are at the current ruling class. The Right spoke up in 2016 and elected Trump. Now the Left is rocking the vending machine back and forth until the point where they think they too can knock it over in 2020. It’ll be interesting if the career political class get the message when it’s coming at them from all directions. I doubt it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They lost the air war even before the German invasion began....Air superiority meant you can see the enemy and hide your own movements, and you can bomb the enemy of course. France was blind, slow and mute. Sorry, this is one of my pet subjects, the Battle of France. Such an avoidable defeat. Maybe like my Democrats ? ...sounds like Quid Pro Joe in Nevada.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, Albwan said: Bernie's rise to me just shows how many lazy freeloaders there are in US. (sung to Jingle Bells) Free free free, free free free, free stuff from Bernie ! Oh how the U.S. would be a mess if Bernie was the Prez ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-bernie-sanderss-momentum-builds-down-ballot-democrats-move-to-distance-themselves/2020/02/22/3364ddd8-5516-11ea-9e47-59804be1dcfb_story.html Former astronaut Mark Kelly, the Democratic Party’s hope for flipping a U.S. Senate seat in Arizona, tried to do no harm this month when he was asked about Sen. Bernie Sanders. “I will ultimately support who the nominee is of the Democratic Party,” he said. That was enough for Kelly’s Republican rival, Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.), who is trailing him in early polls, to go on the attack. The television spot she debuted days later spent nearly as much time talking about plans by the democratic socialist from Vermont to raise taxes and award new benefits to undocumented immigrants as it did about Kelly. “I can tell you that there are a lot of down-ballot jitters based on my conversations with my former colleagues,” said former Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.), a longtime confidant of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi who led congressional election efforts from 2011 to 2015. “Donald Trump is going to offer the American people this choice: Do you want to continue building the economy or do you want to lurch toward socialism? And that is a real powerful argument in the Democratic districts that Trump won in 2016.” “Our data shows that all of our potential nominees, including Sanders, have a pathway to victory, but it isn’t guaranteed,” said Guy Cecil, chairman of Priorities USA, a Democratic super PAC that has polled heavily in the key presidential swing states. “This election will be close regardless of who we nominate.” But there is far less flexibility for candidates in smaller districts. That has prompted Republicans to celebrate as they look to reclaim ground they lost in 2018 when largely affluent suburbs rebelled against the GOP in a protest of Trump. “The Democrats’ embrace of socialism is going to cost them their majority — I mean, it’s as simple as that,” said Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. “Bernie is about as good a contrast as we could have ever hoped for.” Democrats, particularly those representing swing districts, agree. “We flipped those seats [in 2018] because of Donald Trump,” said one House Democrat who represents a suburban district, speaking on the condition of anonymity to reflect internal discussions. “And if Democrats want to hand most of those back, put Bernie at the top of the ticket. And that’s how many of us feel.” The House member added: “Our overarching priority [is] to replace the president, but to do so with someone who is going to be equally divisive does not serve the country’s interests, and I think that’s at the core of what is making so many so uncomfortable.” “The suburbs are not looking for a revolution,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of Third Way. “They want change, for sure. Many of them loathe Trump with a burning passion, but they do not want somebody who is proposing to double the size of the federal government. They do not want somebody who is proposing to take away the health care of 180 million people.” We don't need a new thread for this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: We don't need a new thread for this. Too bad, you got one anyway. I hope it makes you sad and angry enough to complain about it. Oh, you already did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Too bad, you got one anyway. I hope it makes you sad and angry enough to complain about it. Oh, you already did Every email and every online post you make is a reflection of your self. While you're shielded from everyone here in anonymity, when you're dead your family will access your computer and phone and your online footprint and they'll be very disappointed to read crap like this. Leave a better legacy for ***** sakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: (sung to Jingle Bells) Free free free, free free free, free stuff from Bernie ! Oh how the U.S. would be a mess if Bernie was the Prez ! ...and considering the fickle segment of the electorate with collective hands extended, that crap sells......"I got mine and it's up to THEM to figure out who pays for it".....at the same time, the nation's ongoing exploding debt " crisis (COUGH)" is a "cry wolf ruse".....it's been exploding for how long, regardless of party in power?....and at last check, we're still here....so the alleged concern as to how Bernie's gimmes will be paid for is negated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Foxx said: I don’t know where you’ve been getting your emoticons, but they they have been great. I especially like the hair on fire guy. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Every email and every online post you make is a reflection of your self. While you're shielded from everyone here in anonymity, when you're dead your family will access your computer and phone and your online footprint and they'll be very disappointed to read crap like this. Leave a better legacy for ***** sakes. If we don't need this thread just stop replying to it. You are a self parady! Too funny! Keep up the funny work, I like the humor in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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