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The furring cleavage site was cited almost 3  years ago when the virus was first sequenced but ignored.

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It's having a sprained wrist for several days. Or it's the lousy autocorrect/ spell checker. Or both.  It was supposed to be Furin.  The spell checker changed it to Turin as I was typing this.

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It's mostly people not wanting to admit they were wrong/duped.  Show me the animal reservoir for Wuhan virus.  Until then...it came from the lab.

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Whatever that “something new” is, it’s probably extremely significant; Z Division doesn’t change its mind willy-nilly or on a vague hunch. (from Jim Geraghty, whoever he is).  Wouldn't it be good to know what the "something new" is before we put our eggs in that basket?

1 hour ago, Doc said:

It's mostly people not wanting to admit they were wrong/duped.  Show me the animal reservoir for Wuhan virus.  Until then...it came from the lab.

yes, this is just how well trained scientists and clinicians reason, NOT

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19 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

yes, this is just how well trained scientists and clinicians reason, NOT

 

Yes, better to base your opinions on the opposite of what some guy said.  Which makes you a partisan sheep or simple.

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42 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

yes, this is just how well trained scientists and clinicians reason, NOT

Nobody has produced any smoking gun evidence of this coronavirus in animals occurring in nature,  So the natural origin theory that some unknown animal transmitted the virus to humans is no more supported by evidence than the lab origin theory.  What the lab leak theory has going for it is proximity of the lab and ground zero being just down the street.  Along with mutations that many virologists have concluded are nearly impossible to occur naturally.  No objective scientist or investigators would just dismiss that as coincidence.  Add to the story the Chinese government inexplicably plowed under the market where it occurred in what can only be an effort to destroy evidence or prevent any forensic investigation and you get people wondering.    

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9 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Along with mutations that many virologists have concluded are nearly impossible to occur naturally

please link sources.

Most virologist DO believe they did occur naturally.  The IC (Intelligence Community) report cites them.  The rest is circumstantial evidence.

MER's covid virus is quite similar and there is  overwhelming consensus that it occurred naturally.  There are other Coronaviruses that follow a similar mutation path.  If the energy dept has new info on which to base their low confidence judgement, it should release it.

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10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

please link sources.

Most virologist DO believe they did occur naturally.  The IC (Intelligence Community) report cites them.  The rest is circumstantial evidence.

MER's covid virus is quite similar and there is overwhelming consensus that it occurred naturally.  There are other Coronaviruses that follow a similar mutation path.  If the energy dept has new info on which to base their low confidence judgement, it should release it.

did the FBI ever release info on how they got their medium confidence judgement?  how about that "Consensus"

 

IT sounds like you support the house investigation into this?  to get more answers?

 

Consensus is like saying settled science.   doesnt carry much weight.

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Thanks for this information.  In related news about the size and scope of the government in general, let’s stay tuned for a report from the IRS Department of Infectious Diseases and the General Services Agency Associate Chair on Chinese Virology.  We get those, keep a good thought that the NYS DMV weighs in, we can get to the bottom of all this. 

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 LLNL in Livermore, CA is a serious place. I lived in the next town and was in biotech an I knew they had a biotech  division there. That facility has the fusion ignition facility  located there too.  I know a few physicists who work or worked there. Our company had a few optical people ( we were into imagining in biological systems)that came from there. 

A friend who is a surveyor had to survey a small pier ce of the land inside the fence there.  The outdoor basketball court s(for employees to play at lunch or after work) had wires criss-crossing overhead. When he asked, they said to stop helicopters from landing.  He had to go inside to use the bathroom and have lunch in the cafeteria.  He had to be escorted everywhere and have someone announce "civilian" when he went down a new hall or into any room (even the bathroom).

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12 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

did the FBI ever release info on how they got their medium confidence judgement?  how about that "Consensus"

 

IT sounds like you support the house investigation into this?  to get more answers?

 

Consensus is like saying settled science.   doesnt carry much weight.

 

 

 

 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/02/28/fauci-says-we-may-never-know-origin-of-covid-despite-report/
 

The Fauc sounds very, very mostly probably not at all unconfident that the virus may or may not have been the result of a lab leak.  He used the scientific “shiny object” standard with his peers.  

 

 

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The lab leak theory allows for the virus to have occurred naturally.  Is it the possible genetic engineering aspect that has some spooked?

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12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Joke's got much better advisers.  More deaths under him than Trump.  Good one, Jamie.  And pull that mask up!

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