DrW Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) On 7/10/2020 at 2:13 PM, Big Blitz said: Germany! They did soooooo much better than us! Well, actually, they do. According to the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries web site, in the last three days we had an average of 65,000 new cases per day in the US versus less than 500 in Germany. The US death count is 500-1000 per day; in Germany, the average is below 10. Edited July 12, 2020 by DrW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: Nationally, the number of patients in ICU has barely budged and the % of patients in ICU as a % of overall hospitalizations is WAY down. less than 4% of US hospital capacity is currently covid. 7% of baseline ICU is. This is great news. We're starting to see the effects of better treatment methods and medicines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, B-Man said: Nationally, the number of patients in ICU has barely budged and the % of patients in ICU as a % of overall hospitalizations is WAY down. less than 4% of US hospital capacity is currently covid. 7% of baseline ICU is. Do they have state by state data since this thing moved from the North East to the Southern and Western states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, DrW said: Well, actually, they do. According to the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries web site, in the last three days we had an average of 65,000 new cases per day in the US versus less than 500 in Germany. The US death count is 500-1000 per day; in Germany, the average is below 10. Timing could be relative but so far, not much question that Germany is doing way better than us. 1500 case flare up over a few days in the entire country is a long way from panic time for DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, bilzfancy said: Yep, unless it's a M-95 mask, and even then, there is no guarantee you won't get the virus. It gives a sense of safety, nothing more completely wrong. its a sense of being a decent human being. wearing a mask totally cuts down on the risk of transmission. not wearing one shows you have no care if you get someone infected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: His last point is the wildcard right now. Whether the reopening NE states with currently low case counts start to rise quickly once they/we open is unknown. My hope is that the FL/TX/AZ/SoCal thing is just a result of them not having been hit hard yet. If they follow the trends elsewhere, they'd peak in 3-4 weeks on deaths--but that prediction is based on places that shutdown. Uncharted water here with states that are resisting going backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: completely wrong. its a sense of being a decent human being. wearing a mask totally cuts down on the risk of transmission. not wearing one shows you have no care if you get someone infected. I didn't say not to wear one, but thinking that it makes you safe from the virus is fallacy. Thousands who wore a mask still got it. Does it help some? Sure, as does distancing, washing hands. Staying inside 24/7 is the best way to avoid it, and if you have underlying conditions, that what you should be doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, DrW said: Well, actually, they do. According to the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries web site, in the last three days we had an average of 65,000 new cases per day in the US versus less than 500 in Germany. The US death count is 500-1000 per day; in Germany, the average is below 10. I think you're missing my point. The numbers, cases, all meaningless. Deaths matter more sure and hopefully they continue declining overall. Don't want deaths. Apparently you have to clarify that as you advocate for mankinds livelihoods. If your idea of "success" or "beating" the virus is indefinitely mandated social distancing and limited capacity everywhere, temp checks, quarantines for 2 weeks when you visit New Zealand (all island States or nations will do this), no mass gatherings..........we haven't beaten anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 My point exactly. We're going to be distancing till they get their vaccines. There are no "good" covid numbers. The sooner we all realize we're being played the better. But it's an election year and Team Red and Team Blue fighting are a distraction for how awful life is going to be for months if not years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBUFFALO716 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: My point exactly. We're going to be distancing till they get their vaccines. There are no "good" covid numbers. The sooner we all realize we're being played the better. But it's an election year and Team Red and Team Blue fighting are a distraction for how awful life is going to be for months if not years. Past 3.5 years have sucked. If Trump wins it will only get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: Past 3.5 years have sucked. If Trump wins it will only get worse. strongly disagree there. The past four months, absolutely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBUFFALO716 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: strongly disagree there. The past four months, absolutely. Nah 3.5 years have been hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: Past 3.5 years have sucked. If Trump wins it will only get worse. Geezus. Who fricking cares. This kind of thinking only serves to prove to people that think this is a sham that it truly is deep down about hurting Trump as much as possible. Blame him for everything. Meanwhile, there really is no end game which I just specifically said we all need answers to, this is beyond the point of needing justification and explanation. But they aren't doing that. And if what I've read about what this virus truly is is fact.....we are seriously f....ed and that's why they'd rather have us fighting each other then demanding answers as if this is ok. Look around the world. That's here once "cases!" start to decline. Years. Distancing. Half capacity. That's an economic and societal disaster. Edited July 12, 2020 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBUFFALO716 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Geezus. Who fricking cares. This kind of thinking only serves to prove to people that think this is a sham that it truly is deep down about hurting Trump as much as possible. Blame him for everything. Meanwhile, there really is no end game which I just specifically said we all need answers to, this is beyond the point of needing justification and explanation. But they aren't doing that. And if what I've read about what this virus truly is is fact.....we are seriously f....ed and that's why they'd rather have us fighting each other then demanding answers as if this is ok. Look around the world. That's here once "cases!" start to decline. Years. Best you got? Who is THEY? Who wants us distracted by what’s going on w Trumps lack of attention to the virus? He is the President after all, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: Best you got? Who is THEY? Who wants us distracted by what’s going on w Trumps lack of attention to the virus? He is the President after all, right? Without a cure, and with pretty much everything else in place, what exactly would you like this, or any other President to do right now? The virus is doing what viruses do....and despite all of the fear mongering and hand ringing by you and the media, it has yet to overwhelm anything! So go about your life. Wear your seatbelt when your car is moving, wear your mask when you’re indoors near strangers , wear closed toed shoes when you’re mowing the lawn, wear protective glasses when you’re using power tools, wear a condom when you’re having relations with strangers....anything else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, GOBUFFALO716 said: Nah 3.5 years have been hell SIgh, I'll take the bait. Please tell us why. What has happened to you personally that is "hell"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Yesterday, Saturday, not a single state reported triple digits Covid deaths. The end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yesterday, Saturday, not a single state reported triple digits Covid deaths. The end. But they do pile up the dead numbers and wait until Tuesday to report them. Why? To create mid week hysteria? Bureaucratic delays are not an acceptable excuse when a GLOBAL PANDEMIC is ERUPTING!!!!11!!!!!1!!!111! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said: But they do pile up the dead numbers and wait until Tuesday to report them. Why? To create mid week hysteria? Bureaucratic delays are not an acceptable excuse when a GLOBAL PANDEMIC is ERUPTING!!!!11!!!!!1!!!111! I’ve watched these numbers for months now. I think it’s just because even the coroner’s office needs a weekend. But, having watched it as closely as I have I wouldn’t get bent out of shape about it. Yes, there’s a spike that occurs every Tuesday but it’s rarely that big of a spike if you know the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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