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4 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

And how many cultural heritage sites have been targeted so far?

 

When the president threatens to break international law and violate treaties, it matters. 

 

But on a more important and unresolved note, he still hasn't justified the assassination, except clumsily linking it to 9-11 and to stop an imminent attack. They've handled the justification of the assassination poorly (no shock there). 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Please don't misunderstand me or my take -- I've got nothing but respect for you and your opinion even when we disagree. I did not say or mean to imply that you were defending anyone of those folk. 

 

I was just pointing out that you're judging Trump's actions based on a reality which no longer exists. The game has been exposed, the actual bad guys are on the run - not on the advance. This is a war unlike any other we've seen in our lifetimes, and it's changed everything if you're paying attention. Forming your analysis based on the old rules, which were set by the very people who are losing now and who ***** us over for decades, makes it impossible to see what's really happening.

 

Trump is a tank. His job is to destroy the old guard and expose the game for the people to see what's actually happening. And he's brilliant at it.  

 

 

He's not doing it alone. That's never been my assumption. He's got lots of help from very smart, and very capable people. Names you'll never know or hear about, because they work in the shadows not in the spotlight. 

 

I honestly want to believe you, but the names of people who have either refused to serve his presidency, along with those who have resigned underpin the doubt I have in him that is made more evident by gross business failures.

 

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10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

He's not doing it alone. That's never been my assumption. He's got lots of help from very smart, and very capable people. Names you'll never know or hear about, because they work in the shadows not in the spotlight. 

 

So exciting! The DeepER State!

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1 minute ago, John Adams said:

 

When the president threatens to break international law and violate treaties, it matters. 

 

But on a more important and unresolved note, he still hasn't justified the assassination, except clumsily linking it to 9-11 and to stop an imminent attack. They've handled the justification of the assassination poorly (no shock there). 

 

 

 

 

...he'll probably call you tonight from the "Oval Office Hot Line"........

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Just now, sherpa said:

 

I honestly want to believe you, but the names of people who have either refused to serve his presidency, along with those who have resigned underpin the doubt I have in him that is made more evident by gross business failures.

 

 

I hear you. I really do. I didn't vote for him, and this is the last thing I expected to find when I began digging into it. But I go where the evidence leads, and it's overwhelming if you really look at it. 

 

If he ends up committing us to long term war/occupation in Iran, or lets the dirty cops/state officials he has dead to rights walk, then that calculus will change. Until then, he has them on the ropes. He has to drop the hammer to make it count though. 

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Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...he'll probably call you tonight from the "Oval Office Hot Line"........

 

Is your period key rubbed clean?

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Just now, John Adams said:

 

Is your period key rubbed clean?

 

...it's Morse code......Putin told me I needed to use it.........

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27 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I think you are right.

The system our forefathers set up was incredibly prescient.

 

There is a difference though, in seeking his removal or pointing out gross incompetence, and a stupid course that could lead to really serious problems.

I'm just pointing out the incompetence.

Removal is best done via elections.

Out of curiosity what current potential opponent would you vote for over Trump? I'm looking for someone that would keep the economy going strong, finishing up trade deals that most likely will extend beyond 2020, continue our improved border security while simultaneously working on the issues of the day. Who is out there who could be trusted to continue his agenda?

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7 hours ago, Gary Busey said:

 

10 of the 12, but there were 19 

The other 7 were just Democrat super delegates. 

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8 hours ago, Gary Busey said:

 

They're not siding with a murderous General. They're questioning the timing and if it needed to be done. It's not just the left, either.

 

 

 

 

 

It was great timing- General in Baghdad planning attacks- General sent to Allah - but no Virgins for him 

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7 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

Is your period key rubbed clean?

What, now your doing it for a living, solicitor? 

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11 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

When the president threatens to break international law and violate treaties, it matters. 

 

But on a more important and unresolved note, he still hasn't justified the assassination, except clumsily linking it to 9-11 and to stop an imminent attack. They've handled the justification of the assassination poorly (no shock there). 

 

 

 

 

He owes NO justification to YOU or anyone else for that matter. It was a thing that needed to happen.

 

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

He owes NO justification to YOU or anyone else for that matter. It was a thing that needed to happen.

 

 

Actually, he does.  He's the President; you're describing royalty.

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The WH is giving Congress in the form of the belligerent Gang of Eight a briefing. The public doesn’t get one yet. That’s Adam Schiff’s job. He’ll be translating them for our consumption while explaining how this is now really, really, really, truly even is grounds for impeachment and burning him at the stake on the DC Mall.   

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Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Actually, he does.  He's the President; you're describing royalty.


Since when has any president in the past 20 years justified ANYTHING?

 

Why is it that it has to start with THIS president?

 

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:


Since when has any president in the past 20 years justified ANYTHING?

 

Why is it that it has to start with THIS president?

 

 

:lol: It's not starting with this President.  You're just wrong, is all.

 

But you're picking a hell of a time to explicitly mbue the Presidency with monarchial powers, what with it being occupied by a candied yam.

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3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He survived an attack from the previous administration, who abused the massive powers of state/surveillance/law enforcement and its media apparatus. What was done to him was an assault on not just him, but our entire republic and the rule of law. 

 

No one could survive this by accident. Or luck. 

 

He survived because he was the only one who could -- and has turned the tables on the entire dirty cabal which has dominated our country for decades. That there is unending caterwauling from the very institutions and personnel who lied to the country for years for the sake of their own bank accounts is not unexpected. It's information warfare 101. 

 

No one is asking you to like the man, I'm not. I'm not even asking you to vote for him. I'm pointing out your analysis is wrong based on every single piece of evidence we've had uncovered the past several years. 


Reagan ate a bullet -- and it buckled him, made him a servant to these very same people. Trump took their shots and stomped them. And is continuing to do so. 

 

There's only two sides to this conflict. And you might not like who is running the show for the good guys, but he's the only one who could do what's been done so far. 

People that take risks in life are bound to fail. The mentally tough ones get up, dust themselves off, take more shots and keep pressing on. This is what has

so many frustrated and infuriated with Trump- they can’t beat him.

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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

:lol: It's not starting with this President.  You're just wrong, is all.

 

But you're picking a hell of a time to explicitly mbue the Presidency with monarchial powers, what with it being occupied by a candied yam.

 

Well, could do a lot worse than a candied yam in the office.

 

Like, say, having an effete, ineffectual community organizer at the helm.

 

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18 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...he'll probably call you tonight from the "Oval Office Hot Line"........

 

He's tried one justification as linking it to 9-11, which is completely absurd. 

 

Now he's also going with imminent threat. We will see about that justification.

 

And we will see if it was strategically wise. 

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:


Since when has any president in the past 20 years justified ANYTHING?

 

Why is it that it has to start with THIS president?

 

It has to start somewhere. Trump had no obligation to inform Congress prior to the killing but he has an obligation to inform Congressional leaders afterward. He is doing that tomorrow. The problem is, for good reasons he can't allow his people to go into any real details with the public. The meeting tomorrow is supposed to be classified but Adam Schiff, as usual will leak out a version that fits his agenda. 

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2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Well, could do a lot worse than a candied yam in the office.

 

Like, say, having an effete, ineffectual community organizer at the helm.

 

 

there hasn't been a completely overwhelmed nothing in the White House since Carter

 

and that was just a fluke after Watergate and Nam and too much acid

 

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1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

It has to start somewhere. Trump had no obligation to inform Congress prior to the killing but he has an obligation to inform Congressional leaders afterward. He is doing that tomorrow. The problem is, for good reasons he can't allow his people to go into any real details with the public. The meeting tomorrow is supposed to be classified but Adam Schiff, as usual will leak out a version that fits his agenda. 

 

Justification provided by 

 

dun 

dun duuuuuun

 

THE DEEP STATE

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

there hasn't been a completely overwhelmed nothing in the White House since Carter

 

and that was just a fluke after Watergate and Nam and too much acid

 

 

You're wrong there. The last president was out of his depth, completely. An entire embassy wiped out, crimea annexed by russia, red lines in syria, pallets of cash to iran, the eight "summers of recovery", et al.

 

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4 hours ago, Gary Busey said:

 

The apostrophe goes in between the "u" and the "r"- like this - you're.

Your head goes up your ass.

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Just now, John Adams said:

 

Justification provided by 

 

dun 

dun duuuuuun

 

THE DEEP STATE

OK, I'll play your dumb game. Maybe the justification came from Military Intelligence. You know, the guys that initially broke open the malfeasance of the true Deep State. 

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