SJDK Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I was listening to the NFL Network the other day and they mentioned this as a philosophy. What does everyone think about this? Personally, I’d say use free agents on offense because we have a young QB and draft for defense. What do you think and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I would say sign a vet for 1-2 years, draft that position as well and develop your own players on both sides of the ball. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 BPA. You need a blend of vets and youth, but EVERY situation is unique. Know that and act wisely. That goes for both sides of the ball, it’s a blend. The best blend you can create. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Augie said: BPA. You need a blend of vets and youth, but EVERY situation is unique. Know that and act wisely. That goes for both sides of the ball, it’s a blend. The best blend you can create. Right on. Use those draft picks for both sides of the ball...though I would target two impact defensive players early in the draft. This is all contingent on who is available in FA. Also, with the current trend of so called untouchable players being traded...who knows. Edited November 2, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Try to get a WR and DE in free agency this offseason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rocket94 said: Right on. Use those draft picks for both sides of the ball...though I would target two impact defensive players early in the draft. This is all contingent on what is available in FA. Yep, FA comes first. You might have thought we’d draft more than one OL last year, BUT....who knew we’d grab a half dozen in FA? Now, do we still need to upgrade? Of course, and always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Yep, FA comes first. You might have thought we’d draft more than one OL last year, BUT....who knew we’d grab a half dozen in FA? Now, do we still need to upgrade? Of course, and always. Yes. This team still needs a few waves of fresh talent to move foreward. Hopefully Beane signs the core players, drafts well and secures a few fa's who could be big fish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Try to get a WR and DE in free agency this offseason.. I certainly agree with the positions of need, but they are among the most expensive in FA. (I know, we have money - for now.) I might lean more towards drafting there and FA looking at OL, LB and DL. But I don’t pretend to know what’s best, so whatever they do.....I’ll cross my fingers! . Edited November 2, 2019 by Augie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Augie said: I certainly agree with the positions of need, but they are among the most expensive in FA. (I know, we have money - for now.) I might lean more towards drafting there and FA looking at OL, LB and DT. But I don’t pretend to know what’s best, so whatever they do.....I’ll cross my fingers! I don't pretend to be an expert either but I see Lb, Dt, and De as primary needs. Yes, a wr as well, but sometimes they take longer to develop. Ha! we know this stuff already! Edited November 2, 2019 by Rocket94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 It will be interesting to see if Beane views the WR position as something better addressed in FA again this year. Supposedly the draft has good WR depth. The Bills need at WR is a true number one. I don’t think you can get that late in the first round. Personally you look at the position of need and match it with the grade for the player. You do this for the first three rounds. After that solely BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I'd say try to fill holes through FA and go with the strength of the draft while keeping need in mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Augie said: I certainly agree with the positions of need, but they are among the most expensive in FA. (I know, we have money - for now.) I might lean more towards drafting there and FA looking at OL, LB and DT. But I don’t pretend to know what’s best, so whatever they do.....I’ll cross my fingers! I agree it will be expensive but with JA in year 3 of rookie deal, 2020 is the time I just think they need proven upgrades at both these positions and it’s not easy to find these in the draft...even better bring in options from both FA and draft.: Edited November 2, 2019 by Aussie Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rocket94 said: I don't pretend to be an expert either but I see Lb, Dt, and De as primary needs. Yes, a wr as well, but sometimes they take longer to develop. I’ll trust them to do it right. They created the cap space so they are flexible. I love that! We certainly need to create more pressure. Zero doubt about that. If there is the “right guy” at WR, I’m all in! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’ll trust them to do it right. They created the cap space so they are flexible. I love that! We certainly need to create more pressure. Zero doubt about that. If there is the “right guy” at WR, I’m all in! Beane did play his hand with Antonio Brown...he was thinking big pre draft. We never know. I just want to see some big time disruptive defensive players added, and a wr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, SJDK said: I was listening to the NFL Network the other day and they mentioned this as a philosophy. What does everyone think about this? Personally, I’d say use free agents on offense because we have a young QB and draft for defense. What do you think and why? It certainly is a blend of both; however, I don't think you can plan, in advance, on utilizing the draft or free agency for one side of the ball or the other - or even by position. For each position of need, there are so many variables to consider: Who is available in FA; what is the cost; development time needed for rokies at some postions, or just the unknown of a rookie transitioning to the NFL vs a FA who has actually been successful in the league; etc.. Take WR for example. 2020 is supposed to be extremely deep in quality WRs. They will, no doubt, select one or two throughout the draft. However, what if an upper echelon receiver, who should have 2-3 more years of top production left, becomes available in FA? Should the Bills use a later 1st round pick (realistically somewhere around 20) to select a top WR who is an unknown, or spend the money on the FA to ensure they give Allen a sure thing? Personally, I still believe you build a team primarily through the draft, and I am not a big fan of overpaying for FAs (which teams inevitably do). I don't mind one big signing in FA at a position of need (i.e, Morse last year) and then finding good, quality 2nd/3rd tier FAs (starters and depth) as we did along the offensive line last year - and building the core of your team through the draft. I don't like spending all of the FA money on 2-3 high priced players that, more often than not, never come close to performing to the level of their contract. So, my answer to your question is that both are necessary these days and it is a position by position analysis as to whether you use FA or the draft. Edited November 2, 2019 by billsfan1959 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 8 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: It will be interesting to see if Beane views the WR position as something better addressed in FA again this year. Supposedly the draft has good WR depth. The Bills need at WR is a true number one. I don’t think you can get that late in the first round. Personally you look at the position of need and match it with the grade for the player. You do this for the first three rounds. After that solely BPA. I don't think you can draft a WR and expect them to be the immediate #1, but you can target a guy that you feel can develop into that. Those guys can be had all over the draft, but I have little faith in Beane's judgment when it comes to wideouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I don't think you can draft a WR and expect them to be the immediate #1, but you can target a guy that you feel can develop into that. Those guys can be had all over the draft, but I have little faith in Beane's judgment when it comes to wideouts. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 This is a great topic for February we wait all year for the season, and then when it gets here, want to talk about the offseason! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Why? Kelvin Benjamin, for starters. They passed on D.K. in the draft and while I like Beasley and Brown, I feel that a rangy wideout suits Allen's style of play. The Carolina connection. They just don't value wideouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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