The Real Reason Why the Colts' Fans were Booing Andrew Luck

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

It was a raw, gut reaction in the heat of the moment to the worst possible way to "announce" (read:leak) the retirement.

 

I don't excuse the fans for their behavior, but I understand it.

 

It was still a ***** move on the fans part, and one I'm sure they'll regret and want to forget in the long run.

 

Very, very similar to when Toronto fans cheered when Durant went down.  Knee-jerk/spontaneous reaction.  They are still great fans.

[eball]

I'm booing this original post loudly.

[Chandler#81]

[Doc]

46 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Why?

 

With just 2 weeks to go before the season starts, I think it's obvious.  And the Colts are apparently not going after the unamortized portion of his signing bonus.  Bad move.  He's not coming back so take back what they're entitled to get.

Edited August 29, 2019 by Doc

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

With just 2 weeks to go before the season starts, I think it's obvious.  And the Colts are apparently not going after the unamortized portion of his signing bonus.  Bad move.  He's not coming back so take back what they're entitled to get.

 

If that's when he was sure of his decision, then that's when he decided.  It's not a "move".

 

The Colts are well aware of what they are entitled to.  So what?

 

He retired.  They rewarded him for the suffering he endured there, likely as an acknowledgement that they brought this upon themselves and him.

 

What's your problem with any of this?

[BringBackFergy]

15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If true, well....of course they were!  Why wouldn't they??  What FO would NOT try to talk him out of it, even for another season?  

 

So what?

 

What the theorists are saying is that he was paid off to delay the announcement for a month or two, as though, after going 10-6 and Luck having a great season, some potential season ticket buyers would......wait until training camp to pull the trigger on those tickets.  And don't they have a waiting list?

 

That's as silly as it sounds.

Uhhhh, if your franchise QB was going to retire, maybe one would think about discontinuing their tickets, purchasing gear, paying more to the Colts in general.  Have to look at things a few different ways good sir.

[BringBackFergy]

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If that's when he was sure of his decision, then that's when he decided.  It's not a "move".

 

The Colts are well aware of what they are entitled to.  So what?

 

He retired.  They rewarded him for the suffering he endured there, likely as an acknowledgement that they brought this upon themselves and him.

 

What's your problem with any of this?

Once again, try to look at things from a different perspective. I see your point...a reward, a pat on the back. Now look at it differently: It was a reward for delaying the announcement so Irsay could pocket extra cash. Once Irsay made this plan known to Luck, the Golden Boy with Neck Beard was complicit in the ploy to maximize revenue from unsuspecting fans.

 

There's two sides to every story and this one is just starting.

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Uhhhh, if your franchise QB was going to retire, maybe one would think about discontinuing their tickets, purchasing gear, paying more to the Colts in general.  Have to look at things a few different ways good sir.

 

Did the season ticket holders do that in droves when Manning (who would go on to 2 more SB and win another ring with Denver) was kicked to the curb by the Colts?  No.

 

Anda gain, your theory depends on a large number of season ticket buyers to wait until this summer to decide if they would buy.  That's an extremely unlikely scenario--after last season ended, it's far more likely people were running to buy seasons for the Colts.  If you were a Colts fan and were dumb enough to wait until camp started......and still waited while Luck was no where to be found, you would deserve no sympathy.

 

So, you aren't making a strong argument, or much sense.

2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Once again, try to look at things from a different perspective. I see your point...a reward, a pat on the back. Now look at it differently: It was a reward for delaying the announcement so Irsay could pocket extra cash. Once Irsay made this plan known to Luck, the Golden Boy with Neck Beard was complicit in the ploy to maximize revenue from unsuspecting fans.

 

There's two sides to every story and this one is just starting.

 

 

See above.  If you are that unsuspecting, you should surrender all of your wealth to the next stranger you come across.

 

In other words, it didn't happen that way because it makes no sense.  Irsay gave away far more than he could have made in return.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Did the season ticket holders do that in droves when Manning (who would go on to 2 more SB and win another ring with Denver) was kicked to the curb by the Colts?  No.

 

Anda gain, your theory depends on a large number of season ticket buyers to wait until this summer to decide if they would buy.  That's an extremely unlikely scenario--after last season ended, it's far more likely people were running to buy seasons for the Colts.  If you were a Colts fan and were dumb enough to wait until camp started......and still waited while Luck was no where to be found, you would deserve no sympathy.

 

So, you aren't making a strong argument, or much sense.

Not if Luck had told them in March as a few outlets have reported. It would encompass the entire Spring also. I don't really believe Luck held off for months, but on the other hand I also wasn't there. I just want to keep this thread chugging along.??

Edited August 29, 2019 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS

[Gugny]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Did the season ticket holders do that in droves when Manning (who would go on to 2 more SB and win another ring with Denver) was kicked to the curb by the Colts?  No.

 

Anda gain, your theory depends on a large number of season ticket buyers to wait until this summer to decide if they would buy.  That's an extremely unlikely scenario--after last season ended, it's far more likely people were running to buy seasons for the Colts.  If you were a Colts fan and were dumb enough to wait until camp started......and still waited while Luck was no where to be found, you would deserve no sympathy.

 

So, you aren't making a strong argument, or much sense.

 

 

See above.  If you are that unsuspecting, you should surrender all of your wealth to the next stranger you come across.

 

In other words, it didn't happen that way because it makes no sense.  Irsay gave away far more than he could have made in return.

 

Did he, though?  What about sponsorships and endorsements?  Keeping this announcement close to the vest for as long as possible EASILY could have saved him the $21 million he's paying Luck to be quiet about it.

[Mr. WEO]

42 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

Not if Luck had told them in March as a few outlets have reported. It would encompass the entire Spring also. I don't really believe Luck held off for months, but on the other hand I also wasn't there. I just want to keep this thread chugging along.??

 

PFT's Florio wrote a quick piece about "rumors flying" that the Colts knew he was thinking of retirement as far back as March.  I don't see any other article confirming this.

 

In March he went to Europe and got married.  He then started complaining there about calf pain, which was initially addressed with specialists and MRI when he got back. 

 

But what if he truly did mention that he was thinking of retiring back then.  Every FO in the NFL would be leaning HARD on him not to make that decision yet.

 

In June he said this:  "“I certainly don’t feel as young as I once did and I’m certainly also being conservative with things. It’s one of the things I learned going through my shoulder. “I certainly didn’t expect (to miss the entire spring). There’s a lot less anxiety I guess in my life about it than I had in the past about certain things. But I think trusting myself, trusting the process, trusting how things go, and working hard and still pushing yourself and expecting good progress every day is a big part of that"

40 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Did he, though?  What about sponsorships and endorsements?  Keeping this announcement close to the vest for as long as possible EASILY could have saved him the $21 million he's paying Luck to be quiet about it.

 

What sponsorships and endorsements companies paying for were contingent on who the starting QB is?  Companies pay to be the "official (whatever) for the (team name here)" for the visibility that the NFL enjoys beyond any other pro sport in this country.

 

You think a raft of new sponsors (I doubt these are 1 year sponsorship deals) suddenly signed on this summer?  And that they would have chosen to spend their ad money on some other local sports team instead of the Colts had they known Luck wouldn't be the QB?

 

Come on!

Edited August 29, 2019 by Mr. WEO

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

PFT's Florio wrote a quick piece about "rumors flying" that the Colts knew he was thinking of retirement as far back as March.  I don't see any other article confirming this.

 

In March he went to Europe and got married.  He then started complaining there about calf pain, which was initially addressed with specialists and MRI when he got back. 

 

But what if he truly did mention that he was thinking of retiring back then.  Every FO in the NFL would be leaning HARD on him not to make that decision yet.

 

In June he said this:  "“I certainly don’t feel as young as I once did and I’m certainly also being conservative with things. It’s one of the things I learned going through my shoulder. “I certainly didn’t expect (to miss the entire spring). There’s a lot less anxiety I guess in my life about it than I had in the past about certain things. But I think trusting myself, trusting the process, trusting how things go, and working hard and still pushing yourself and expecting good progress every day is a big part of that"

 

What sponsorships and endorsements companies paying for were contingent on who the starting QB is?  Companies pay to be the "official (whatever) for the (team name here)" for the visibility that the NFL enjoys beyond any other pro sport in this country.

 

You think a raft of new sponsors (I doubt these are 1 year sponsorship deals) suddenly signed on this summer?  And that they would have chosen to spend their ad money on some other local sports team instead of the Colts had they known Luck wouldn't be the QB?

 

Come on!

I believe he was considering retirement before the latest injury because as he put it he was in a "dark place". Many people believe this is tied to needing to take opiates for too long or needing taking too much to combat the pain he was constantly in. I've been there with multiple injuries requiring taking opiates for months & months at a time. By the time I was healed up enough to get me off them, I had been on them so long that they had to taper me off them so I didn't get most of the bad reactions of withdrawal.

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

If that's when he was sure of his decision, then that's when he decided.  It's not a "move".

 

The Colts are well aware of what they are entitled to.  So what?

 

He retired.  They rewarded him for the suffering he endured there, likely as an acknowledgement that they brought this upon themselves and him.

 

What's your problem with any of this?

 

Yeah, I'm sure he just woke up the other day and decided that he was done.  It was obviously something that had been contemplating for awhile. If he'd made his feelings known months ago, the Colts could have planned for it better.  That's my problem with it.  This is little better than Vontae retiring mid-game, but at least Vontae wasn't taking up a huge chunk of the salary cap.

 

As for the unamortized signing bonus, they're hoping he changes his mind.  Other QB's have endured worse and didn't retire just weeks before the season started.  I don't know how much time they have to make a decision to pursue it but I hope they go after it.

Edited August 29, 2019 by Doc

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Yeah, I'm sure he just woke up the other day and decided that he was done.  It was obviously something that had been contemplating for awhile. If he'd made his feelings known months ago, the Colts could have planned for it better.  That's my problem with it.  This is little better than Vontae retiring mid-game, but at least Vontae wasn't taking up a huge chunk of the salary cap.

 

As for the unamortized signing bonus, they're hoping he changes his mind.  Other QB's have endured worse and didn't retire just weeks before the season started.  I don't know how much time they have to make a decision to pursue it but I hope they go after it.

 

Of course he contemplated it for a while (who wouldn't??)!  And I'm sure anyone who suspected told him to just see how it goes during camps.  He hung in there, didn't feel better.......then he pulled the trigger.  What mystifies you here? 

 

And how could the Colts plan better for it?  Brissett has been their "starter" for the entire offseason and preseason.  What else would they have done differently?  Bring in......who?

 

As for the money, they've already said he can keep it, so why would you think they will "go after it"?

 

 

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Of course he contemplated it for a while (who wouldn't??)!  And I'm sure anyone who suspected told him to just see how it goes during camps.  He hung in there, didn't feel better.......then he pulled the trigger.  What mystifies you here? 

 

And how could the Colts plan better for it?  Brissett has been their "starter" for the entire offseason and preseason.  What else would they have done differently?  Bring in......who?

 

As for the money, they've already said he can keep it, so why would you think they will "go after it"?

 

Yeah, Brissett is a great plan.  Good one WEO. 

 

I suspect that if you were counting on someone for something important and they flaked-out on you just weeks prior, you'd be pissed.  I suspect this is more about you laughing at Irsay than really supporting Luck because that's how you roll. 

 

And again they're holding-out hope he returns.  When they realize he isn't, they might be saying other things.

[Mr. WEO]

25 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, Brissett is a great plan.  Good one WEO. 

 

I suspect that if you were counting on someone for something important and they flaked-out on you just weeks prior, you'd be pissed.  I suspect this is more about you laughing at Irsay than really supporting Luck because that's how you roll. 

 

And again they're holding-out hope he returns.  When they realize he isn't, they might be saying other things.

 

Can you answer my simple question?  The same report on the rumors of Luck thinking about retiring back in March said that the Colts started preparing for that possibility with Brissett.  So what other preparation would they have done months ago that what they obviously have done.

 

Irsay is laughable for sure. But the conspiracy you and others support on this issue falls apart for all of the reasons already mentioned.

 

As for Luck, I don't care either way---just pointing out that it's hardly a head scratcher that this guy in particular, after missing a huge amount of football recently, after a career of getting pummeled, has a great comeback season, then starts having some new painful issue pop up and he starts thinking of calling it quits.  You pointing out (so helpfully!) that he didn't wake up one day and decide to retire is consistent with Luck's normal human  behavior. 

 

As for Brissett, obviously it doesn't matter if I think it's a great plan (probably not), but what the Colts think.  Obviously they are high on him, having traded a former 1st round pick for him and last year reportedly turning down 2 teams trade offers for him.  SO why do you not think this was their plan since Spring?

 

Tell us, doc.

Edited August 29, 2019 by Mr. WEO

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

Can you answer my simple question?  The same report on the rumors of Luck thinking about retiring back in March said that the Colts started preparing for that possibility with Brissett.  So what other preparation would they have done months ago that what they obviously have done.

 

Irsay is laughable for sure. But the conspiracy you and others support on this issue falls apart for all of the reasons already mentioned.

 

As for Luck, I don't care either way---just pointing out that it's hardly a head scratcher that this guy in particular, after missing a huge amount of football recently, after a career of getting pummeled, has a great comeback season, then starts having some new painful issue pop up and he starts thinking of calling it quits.  You pointing out (so helpfully!) that he didn't wake up one day and decide to retire is consistent with Luck's normal human  behavior. 

 

As for Brissett, obviously it doesn't matter if I think it's a great plan (probably not), but what the Colts think.  Obviously they are high on him, having traded a former 1st round pick for him and last year reportedly turning down 2 teams trade offers for him.  SO why do you not think this was their plan since Spring?

 

Tell us, doc.

 

Conspiracy?  Who's talking conspiracy?  I'm just saying it was a poor move on Luck's part.  I've never heard of a player retiring a couple weeks before the season started, or even a couple months before, much less one this high-profile.  And no I doubt the Colts knew and said "yeah, Brissett is our guy!"

[Mr. WEO]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Conspiracy?  Who's talking conspiracy?  I'm just saying it was a poor move on Luck's part.  I've never heard of a player retiring a couple weeks before the season started, or even a couple months before, much less one this high-profile.  And no I doubt the Colts knew and said "yeah, Brissett is our guy!"

 

This thread is based on a conspiracy.

 

Brissett has been the Colts "guy" all off season.

 

There is nothing you have suggested they could have done otherwise differently had they known (if true) that Luck was going to quit months ago.  Just as when Luck went out in 2017 and Brissett was their "guy", he is now as well.  This really could not be more clear, so why are you struggling?

 

There is nothing real to suggest that Luck didn't come to his final decision until he did, so questioning his "timing" is meaningless.

[Dr.Sack]

Colts will tank again this year.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

This thread is based on a conspiracy.

 

Brissett has been the Colts "guy" all off season.

 

There is nothing you have suggested they could have done otherwise differently had they known (if true) that Luck was going to quit months ago.  Just as when Luck went out in 2017 and Brissett was their "guy", he is now as well.  This really could not be more clear, so why are you struggling?

 

There is nothing real to suggest that Luck didn't come to his final decision until he did, so questioning his "timing" is meaningless.

 

Thinking Luck retired now based on money (the topic of this thread) isn't even in the area code of "conspiracy."  And for all we know, it could be the reason why he waited until almost the last minute.  As you've admitted, he's been thinking about this for awhile so maybe he was contemplating the best way to keep his money because he blames them.  I don't know.  And thread topics can morph into other topics.

 

I don't care either way.  He's not my QB/they're not my team.  But it's a bad look for him and puts the Colts in a bad spot, which is good (or at least not bad) for me/my team.  Again Brissett would never be anyone's plan.  Florio's just talking out of his ass, as usual.

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

Colts will tank again this year.

 

Tank for Tua?  Or Trev?

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Thinking Luck retired now based on money (the topic of this thread) isn't even in the area code of "conspiracy."  And for all we know, it could be the reason why he waited until almost the last minute.  As you've admitted, he's been thinking about this for awhile so maybe he was contemplating the best way to keep his money because he blames them.  I don't know.  And thread topics can morph into other topics.

 

I don't care either way.  He's not my QB/they're not my team.  But it's a bad look for him and puts the Colts in a bad spot, which is good (or at least not bad) for me/my team.  Again Brissett would never be anyone's plan.  Florio's just talking out of his ass, as usual.

 

Tank for Tua?  Or Trev?

 

The OP is clearly charging Irsay with conspiring with Luck to delay the announcement in order to accrue more ticket sales in return for letting him keep $21 million.  He twice said “the truth will come out”.  

 

If he wrote conspiracy on your forehead backwards and forced you to stand in front of a mirror and read it allowed...that still wouldn’t be any more clear he is saying his is a conspiracy theory.

 

And again,  what else would the Colts have done in the Spring differently for Lucks absence that what they have done since Spring in Luck absence?  As always,  it’s a very simple question. Just answer it as best you can.

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

The OP is clearly charging Irsay with conspiring with Luck to delay the announcement in order to accrue more ticket sales in return for letting him keep $21 million.  He twice said “the truth will come out”.  

 

If he wrote conspiracy on your forehead backwards and forced you to stand in front of a mirror and read it allowed...that still wouldn’t be any more clear he is saying his is a conspiracy theory.

 

And again,  what else would the Colts have done in the Spring differently for Lucks absence that what they have done since Spring in Luck absence?  As always,  it’s a very simple question. Just answer it as best you can.

 

I didn't read the original post.  But that's also plausible.  You might be shocked to learn this but people often do things to maximize their pocketbooks, even at the expense of others.  And again, the topic within a thread can and often does change.  There's no law against it.

 

And maybe the Colts could have gone after Nick Foles?  You know, the guy Reich won a SB with in Philly?

Edited August 30, 2019 by Doc

[BringBackFergy]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The OP is clearly charging Irsay with conspiring with Luck to delay the announcement in order to accrue more ticket sales in return for letting him keep $21 million.  He twice said “the truth will come out”.  

 

If he wrote conspiracy on your forehead backwards and forced you to stand in front of a mirror and read it allowed...that still wouldn’t be any more clear he is saying his is a conspiracy theory.

 

And again,  what else would the Colts have done in the Spring differently for Lucks absence that what they have done since Spring in Luck absence?  As always,  it’s a very simple question. Just answer it as best you can.

Yes. Absolutely. It’s sheeple like you who believe the likes of Andrew are in it for “team” “competition” and “love of game”. As I recall, Oliver Luck had his boy’s ear (much like Daddy Elway with his boy back in ‘83). Don’t believe the “aww shucks” persona from Neck Beard. There’s a profit motive here and it was corralled by Andy at the expense of moms and dads in the stands. 

[Mr. WEO]

12 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I didn't read the original post.  But that's also plausible.    And again, the topic within a thread can and often do change.

 

And maybe the Colts could have gone after Nick Foles?  You know, the guy Reich won a SB with in Philly?

 

 

"Conspiracy?  Who's talking conspiracy?"

 

You are now.

 

Anyway.  It should be very clear to you that the Colt have been all in on Brissett as the Luck alternative since 2017 when he filled in for Luck, and that they turned down trade offers last year when Luck was coming back.  He has taken every starter snap this off/preseason.  

 

So....the Colts are doing exactly what they wanted to do in the event that Luck wasn't playing this year from the first day of camp.  So suggesting they would have done something different earlier is obviously something your are straining to make up.

 

Foles?  He was a Jag before Luck got married and there was any suggestion that he had an issue with the calf.

 

You're flailing now, as usual. Dying on a hill you really don't need to.

.

Edited August 30, 2019 by Mr. WEO

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

"Conspiracy?  Who's talking conspiracy?"

 

You are now.

 

Anyway.  It should be very clear to you that the Colt have been all in on Brissett as the Luck alternative since 2017 when he filled in for Luck, and that they turned down trade offers last year when Luck was coming back.  He has taken every starter snap this off/preseason.  

 

So....the Colts are doing exactly what they wanted to do in the event that Luck wasn't playing this year from the first day of camp.  So suggesting they would have done something different earlier is obviously something your are straining to make up.

 

Foles?  He was a Jag before Luck got married and there was any suggestion that he had an issue with the calf.

 

You're flailing now, as usual. Dying on a hill you really don't need to.

 

If that's what you want to call a "conspiracy," have at it.  Doesn't mean that it's now what happened.

 

And Foles was signed in the...Spring.  You asked a very simple question and I answered.  Better luck next time.

[Mr. WEO]

7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Yes. Absolutely. It’s sheeple like you who believe the likes of Andrew are in it for “team” “competition” and “love of game”. As I recall, Oliver Luck had his boy’s ear (much like Daddy Elway with his boy back in ‘83). Don’t believe the “aww shucks” persona from Neck Beard. There’s a profit motive here and it was corralled by Andy at the expense of moms and dads in the stands. 

 

There it is.  Total conspiracy lunacy.

 

 

Logic be damned---this is how it happened sheeple!!!!

 

LOL...keep the laughs coming.

Just now, Doc said:

 

If that's what you want to call a "conspiracy," have at it.  Doesn't mean that it's now what happened.

 

And Foles was signed in the...Spring.  You asked a very simple question and I answered.  Better luck next time.

 

 

It's the definition of conspiracy doc, and you've latched onto it.  Always diving into the shallow end of the pool.

 

Folks signed on March 11.  Luck got married at the end of that month.  It was around that time that he first started talking of his calf pain.

 

This stuff is easily found on google, doc?  Why do you always do this to yourself?  Easily avoidable error.

[BringBackFergy]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

There it is.  Total conspiracy lunacy.

 

 

Logic be damned---this is how it happened sheeple!!!!

 

LOL...keep the laughs coming.

Not hard to believe. Free your mind. 

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

It's the definition of conspiracy doc, and you've latched onto it.  Always diving into the shallow end of the pool.

 

Folks signed on March 11.  Luck got married at the end of that month.  It was around that time that he first started talking of his calf pain.

 

This stuff is easily found on google, doc?  Why do you always do this to yourself?  Easily avoidable error.

 

Maybe one day you'll get out of the kiddie pool and realize that this type of "conspiracy" happens all the time WEO.  But to dismiss it out of hand when you have no idea but think you do is your MO.

 

You don't think it's possible that he was thinking about retirement well before he got married?  Maybe his fiance started putting a bug in his ear saying he's made enough money and should retire before he gets hurt further?  It was the calf pain that did him in?  Hey, it's a theory!

Edited August 30, 2019 by Doc

[papazoid]

superstar X could slip on a banana peel tomorrow and his career is over.

 

fans should expect no guarantees emotionally or financially  regarding their favorite teams chances of success.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Maybe one day you'll get out of the kiddie pool; and realize that this type of "conspiracy" happens all the time WEO.  To dismiss it out of hand when you have no idea but think you do is your MO.

 

You don't think it's possible that he was thinking about retirement well before he got married?  Maybe his fiance started putting a bug in his ear saying he's made enough money and should retire before he gets hurt further?  It was the calf pain that did him in.  Hey, it's a theory!

 

Why stop there doc?  He was thinking about retirement in 2017!  2016! While he was at Stanford!

 

Yes!  Conspiracies are real and happen "all the time"!  lol---doc you went from "who's talking conspiracy?" to "conspiracies "happen all the time"!  Pure doc flip flop LOL.

 

Yes, YES!  The Colts FO MUST HAVE KNOWN that Luck's FORMER SOVIETSKY FIANCEE put the retirement bug in his ear during some sweet post-coital pillow talk.....and therefore they should have made a STRONG MOVE for Foles BEFORE the Jags signed him!!

 

 

LOL, doc.....you ALWAYS deliver!

 

 

[Doc]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

Why stop there doc?  He was thinking about retirement in 2017!  2016! While he was at Stanford!

 

Yes!  Conspiracies are real and happen "all the time"!  lol---doc you went from "who's talking conspiracy?" to "conspiracies "happen all the time"!  Pure doc flip flop LOL.

 

Yes, YES!  The Colts FO MUST HAVE KNOWN that Luck's FORMER SOVIETSKY FIANCEE put the retirement bug in his ear during some sweet post-coital pillow talk.....and therefore they should have made a STRONG MOVE for Foles BEFORE the Jags signed him!!

 

 

LOL, doc.....you ALWAYS deliver!

 

Again WEO, you're the only one calling this/talking about a "conspiracy."  If it happened, it was a business decision.  Irsay gets to sell more season tix, luxury boxes and merch and Luck gets to keep his signing bonus.  No one really gets hurt and no one goes to jail.

 

And you think Luck couldn't have started contemplating retirement after missing all of the 2017 season?  But no, he gets a little pain in his calf and that's what put him over the edge, leading him to screw everyone over just weeks before the season starts?  That's just silly.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Again WEO, you're the only one calling this/talking about a "conspiracy."  If it happened, it was a business decision.  Irsay gets to sell more season tix, luxury boxes and merch and Luck gets to keep his signing bonus.  No one really gets hurt and no one goes to jail.

 

And you think Luck couldn't have started contemplating retirement after missing all of the 2017 season?  But no, he gets a little pain in his calf and that's what put him over the edge, leading him to screw everyone over just weeks before the season starts?  That's just silly.

 

You said they could have gone after Foles! When?? Come on doc. Tell us exactly how and when they should have gone after Foles!

 

Several posters in this very thread have laughed off this conspiracy theory the OP put forward.  I’ve already pointed out how it would, as described plainly by the OP, be a conspiracy to defraud season ticket holders. In fact it’s the reason he started this thread!! 

 

And now you are all in on his theory

[Gugny]

48 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

"Conspiracy?  Who's talking conspiracy?"

 

You are now.

 

Anyway.  It should be very clear to you that the Colt have been all in on Brissett as the Luck alternative since 2017 when he filled in for Luck, and that they turned down trade offers last year when Luck was coming back.  He has taken every starter snap this off/preseason.  

 

So....the Colts are doing exactly what they wanted to do in the event that Luck wasn't playing this year from the first day of camp.  So suggesting they would have done something different earlier is obviously something your are straining to make up.

 

Foles?  He was a Jag before Luck got married and there was any suggestion that he had an issue with the calf.

 

You're flailing now, as usual. Dying on a hill you really don't need to.

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WEO, come on.  Ain't no goddamn NFL team going all in on Jacoby Brissett.  Common man.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

You said they could have gone after Foles! When?? Come on doc. Tell us exactly how and when they should have gone after Foles!

 

Several posters in this very thread have laughed off this conspiracy theory the OP put forward.  I’ve already pointed out how it would, as described plainly by the OP, be a conspiracy to defraud season ticket holders. In fact it’s the reason he started this thread!! 

 

And now you are all in on his theory

 

Nope.  It's just a theory.  Just like going with Brissett was their plan when they found out about Luck wanting to retire.

 

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

WEO, come on.  Ain't no goddamn NFL team going all in on Jacoby Brissett.  Common man.

 

You'd think this would be obvious.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Nope.  It's just a theory.  Just like going with Brissett was their plan when they found out about Luck wanting to retire.

 

 

You'd think this would be obvious.

 

Come on doc, don’t run from your post.  Tell us how and when they would have made the move for Foles

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

WEO, come on.  Ain't no goddamn NFL team going all in on Jacoby Brissett.  Common man.

 

Show us the evidence to the contrary.  Should be easy for you, no? Let’s hear it

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Come on doc, don’t run from your post.  Tell us how and when they would have made the move for Foles

 

Show us the evidence to the contrary.  Should be easy for you, no? Let’s hear it

 

Here's my evidence ... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrisJa00.htm  ... he sucks.

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Come on doc, don’t run from your post.  Tell us how and when they would have made the move for Foles

 

Who's running?  If we go with the theory that the Colts knew early-on that Luck was retiring, they call up Foles' agent and get it done.  In no reasonable theory is Jacoby Brissett a real "plan."

[BringBackFergy]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Here's my evidence ... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrisJa00.htm  ... he sucks.

It’s so simple....yet WEO wants us to think “all is well”. Irsay wanted Briquette as his QB this season as much as he wanted his coke laced with Ajax. Air go, give Luck a monetary incentive to hold off on his announcement as long as possible. 

[Doc]

Just now, BringBackFergy said:

It’s so simple....yet WEO wants us to think “all is well”. Irsay wanted Briquette as his QB this season as much as he wanted his coke laced with Ajax. Air go, give Luck a monetary incentive to hold off on his announcement as long as possible. 

 

No, the calf pain was just unbearable.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Who's running?  If we go with the theory that the Colts knew early-on that Luck was retiring, they call up Foles' agent and get it done.  In no reasonable theory is Jacoby Brissett a real "plan."

 

When doc? he was already in the Jags. 

8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Here's my evidence ... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrisJa00.htm  ... he sucks.

 Answer the question Gug.  How did you conclude the Colts were not going to rely on Brissett to (again) fill in for Luck ?

 

Do you and doc believe that the Colts are absolutely against Brisett as their QB??

Edited August 30, 2019 by Mr. WEO