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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Nah he was very inconsistent. All year. Even within games. There is lots of reason for optimism he made a big jump year 1 to year 2 in college and his problems are not making the incredible plays they are making the routine ones. If he can do that his potential remains elite. 

I disagree. He was as good as you can expect for a rookie MLB.

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1 hour ago, TigerJ said:

When a player is a high draft pick, the odds that he will gain success in the NFL are naturally higher than if you are a UDFA, but if you find your way on to a team, by any means, your odds for eventual success are not zero.  The continued success of players like Levi Wallace and Robert Foster prove that.

High draft picks have better odds at finding success because , they were drafted high because they showed the ability to produce and they get more opportunities than UDFAs

 

But once that UDFA sticks they have just as much chance as being good as any other player and at a bargain cost

 

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of UDFAs with great stories from Kurt Warner to Robey Coleman

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3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

High draft picks have better odds at finding success because , they were drafted high because they showed the ability to produce and they get more opportunities than UDFAs

 

But once that UDFA sticks they have just as much chance as being good as any other player and at a bargain cost

 

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of UDFAs with great stories from Kurt Warner to Robey Coleman

I don't disagree with any of that.  NFL teams pay their scouts to figure out who has the best odds of producing an a professional level.  Unless they're completely incompetent ,(which I don't buy for a second) they will have a handle on players whose combination of physical talent and mental aptitude give them the best odds for success.  As you say, when a prospect is picked high in the draft, he's given every opportunity to prove the scouts right.  However, scouts can't know all the intangibles about a player.  Some players who don't quite measure up in the ways that scouts can observe have an inner drive sometimes that enables them to overcome the shortcomings that everybody thought they had.

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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nah he was very inconsistent. All year. Even within games. There is lots of reason for optimism he made a big jump year 1 to year 2 in college and his problems are not making the incredible plays they are making the routine ones. If he can do that his potential remains elite. 

Agree. He was NOT good in the Pats game and he was excellent against the Dolphins. Playing well in the finale isn't "steady improvement" even if it feels that way. Very inconsistent. I have several question marks about whether experience will translate into the type of instinct required to excel at MLB. I have zero doubt he'd be an All-Pro OLB. Time will tell with TE.

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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nah he was very inconsistent. All year. Even within games. There is lots of reason for optimism he made a big jump year 1 to year 2 in college and his problems are not making the incredible plays they are making the routine ones. If he can do that his potential remains elite. 

 

 

He was absolutely brutal against New England in week 16, IMO.

 

He knocked down a pass to start the game as I recall.......a splashy play which he made a number of during the season...........but then he and Star proceeded to be utterly trampled by the Pats.

 

If you want to find out what you are doing wrong..........play the Patriots........they will find it and show the rest of the league.

 

I am still not sold that he's the second coming of Brian Urlacher because most of the guys who reach that level are really instinctive and good right away and Edmunds was not............but if he ends up outside or as an edge player I still think he could be tremendous there.

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1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

‘Why I love the NFL’

 

Old coaches never die.  They just get recycled.

Tell that to chan gailey

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8 hours ago, MJS said:

I disagree. He was as good as you can expect for a rookie MLB.

 

I think maybe it can be both. 

 

I’m hopeful. I know this, he can play somewhere and make a difference! 

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