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6 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

credibility=shot

Why is my credibility shot? I'm not a fan of how the Bills are defense first team, when offense is what wins games now. As far as the older fan base goes, it gets annoying to hear their love for Blue collar football. I think the Bills fanbase are the only NFL team that doesn't want a new stadium for their team. 

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23 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Interesting. 

 

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/09/rumor-buffalo-sends-mega-offer-to.html?m=1

 

 

Not sure how legit the source is, but it’s an interesting thought. Not gonna lie, trading even one 1st would scare me with where we’ve been drafting. Trading two would scare the crap out of me. I would hope like hell there is at least top 3 protection on them. The next draft, especially at the top, looks like it could be amazing. 

 

I love Laine, but there are a lot of times where if he’s not scoring, he’s not really contributing much of anything. I expect his game to grow though, and he could be one of the most elite goal scorers in the NHL. But there is obvious risk in trading two #1’s when we’ve drafted top 10 for what,  7 or 8 years in a row? Seems like one 1st should be enough with our draft position history in recent years. That’s a lottery ticket for Winnipeg. 

Because we had two first round picks last year that included Cozens and Johnson I would have little reluctance in giving up two first round picks for Laine. The reality is we already have a number of young players fermenting in the system thus those two first round picks wouldn't be depleting the pipeline very much. In addition, Laine is a young player who still has potential to grow as a player. So you are giving up two young prospects for an already productive young player. My point is that you are not mortgaging much of the future when you get in return a young player who should have a long life span. 

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51 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

A little buzz in the hockey world that the Sabres have offered a "significant" package for Patrick Laine.

 

 

God, I hope not. He’s just not a very good hockey player. 

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1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said:

A little buzz in the hockey world that the Sabres have offered a "significant" package for Patrick Laine.

 

 

Whether this rumored deal gets worked or not what is evident is that Botts wants to move Risto. He's not going to be rushed or forced into an unbalanced deal. My sense is that he considers Risto a valuable asset that can be dealt for building a credible second line.  

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33 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Why is my credibility shot? I'm not a fan of how the Bills are defense first team, when offense is what wins games now. As far as the older fan base goes, it gets annoying to hear their love for Blue collar football. I think the Bills fanbase are the only NFL team that doesn't want a new stadium for their team. 

 

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This guy is seriously not right. This is his standard response, almost like a nervous tic.

1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

Its been one season. I like the moves he made this off season and it takes time to clean up the mess from the last GM

Yes I will admit they aren't good at marketing their sport. At least there will be no lockouts for awhile. The players agreed to keep the current deal in place for 3 more seasons. 

 

What makes poorly run?

 

 

Bad rules, worse officiating, a reliance on small European players.

 

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1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

Why is my credibility shot? I'm not a fan of how the Bills are defense first team, when offense is what wins games now. As far as the older fan base goes, it gets annoying to hear their love for Blue collar football. I think the Bills fanbase are the only NFL team that doesn't want a new stadium for their team. 

Ask St. Louis who has the smarter fans.

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7 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

A box score fan is ones who only look at the final score and not even watch to see how the team plays. I don't expect people to watch every Sabres game but it's not that difficult to look at what they have done with off season moves. The Sabres like hockey in most of the U.S. is an afterthought. 


US fans are very serious, there’s from 5,000 to 20,000 of them in every city with a franchise, and they are at the games.

 

 

No problems, i meant I’ve never called it a box score for hockey... hmmmm...: I guess the game summary is how I’ve heard it described... 

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The WGR link was written by Paul Hamilton after the Toronto game. The most interesting takeaway by the writer is that Mittlstadt has been struggling in training camp. Cozens has clearly outplayed him. Under Krueger everyone has a clear slate. What you currently show is what you show. Previous history doesn't determine your present status. If that is the case it wouldn't be surprising if Mitts ends up in Rochester for more development. I still think that Cozens will be sent back to the juniors but that might be after a short stint with the Sabres that won't burn up one of his contract years.  As it stands Johannson appears to be our second line center. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-marcus-johansson-will-get-more-time-center

 

The roster is being whittled down. Ruotsalainen was sent back to Finland and others sent to Rochester.

 

 https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-send-15-down-including-cj-smith

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9 hours ago, row_33 said:


US fans are very serious, there’s from 5,000 to 20,000 of them in every city with a franchise, and they are at the games.

 

 

No problems, i meant I’ve never called it a box score for hockey... hmmmm...: I guess the game summary is how I’ve heard it described... 

The problem is that there is not enough serious hockey fans in the US. 

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1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

The problem is that there is not enough serious hockey fans in the US. 

It's a regional sport like baseball. Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, NY, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Vegas, Dallas, San Jose, Colorado, LA etc. All these markets are in America.There are teams that have tepid fans, and some of that is due to expansion in new hockey markets. So that shouldn't be so surprising.  However, the hockey business is as robust as it has ever been. If you don't accept that assessment than ask the players how well they are benefiting from the business. 

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No big shockers (yet). A bit surprised Ruotsalainen and CJ Smith were “sent down” with the first round of cuts. I wonder if CJ Smith is upset. I remember a recent interview where he said he was excited because the Sabres told him he would be given a legit chance at making the roster. Not saying he wasn’t given a legit chance or anything, and I always viewed him as a long shot to make the team out of camp.

Just a bit surprised he wasn’t one of the later cuts (even just to appease him). They must view him as a core Rochester guy, since Amerks camp starts tomorrow. 

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3 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

The problem is that there is not enough serious hockey fans in the US. 


you have a good thing going in the US, always good to meet and talk to hockey fans wherever I can

 

and your cities won’t give up the Stanley Cup

 

:(

 

 

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

It's a regional sport like baseball. Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, NY, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Vegas, Dallas, San Jose, Colorado, LA etc. All these markets are in America.There are teams that have tepid fans, and some of that is due to expansion in new hockey markets. So that shouldn't be so surprising.  However, the hockey business is as robust as it has ever been. If you don't accept that assessment than ask the players how well they are benefiting from the business. 


 Few years ago a handful of teams were in dire $$$ trouble, haven’t heard this too recently, I guess they got out it it?!

 

 

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23 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

No big shockers (yet). A bit surprised Ruotsalainen and CJ Smith were “sent down” with the first round of cuts. I wonder if CJ Smith is upset. I remember a recent interview where he said he was excited because the Sabres told him he would be given a legit chance at making the roster. Not saying he wasn’t given a legit chance or anything, and I always viewed him as a long shot to make the team out of camp.

Just a bit surprised he wasn’t one of the later cuts (even just to appease him). They must view him as a core Rochester guy, since Amerks camp starts tomorrow. 

 

Maybe you send him down early so that it's easier for him to clear waivers.  I feel like most teams already have too many bodies to sort through to add another to the mix by way of waiver claim.

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1 hour ago, shrader said:

 

Maybe you send him down early so that it's easier for him to clear waivers.  I feel like most teams already have too many bodies to sort through to add another to the mix by way of waiver claim.

I don't think any player is going to sneak through wavers because all teams have to address the roster cut issue during training camp. All teams keep track of all the players on other teams not only on the NHL rosters but also the lower level rosters. They need to for waiver possibilities and also for trade considerations. CJ Smith is an earnest player who falls in the category of a fourth line player. He is more likely to be called up as a fill-in for an injured player or a player who is struggling on the big club. In my opinion he is the type of player who falls in the range between being a good AHL player and barely making the jump to the NHL. I like him as a player but he is the type of player who gets picked up by another team you quickly forget about.  

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16 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I don't think any player is going to sneak through wavers because all teams have to address the roster cut issue during training camp. All teams keep track of all the players on other teams not only on the NHL rosters but also the lower level rosters. They need to for waiver possibilities and also for trade considerations. CJ Smith is an earnest player who falls in the category of a fourth line player. He is more likely to be called up as a fill-in for an injured player or a player who is struggling on the big club. In my opinion he is the type of player who falls in the range between being a good AHL player and barely making the jump to the NHL. I like him as a player but he is the type of player who gets picked up by another team you quickly forget about.  

 

Yes you quickly forget, but it's also the kind of depth that all teams need.  It's nice to have that kind of player to call up in an emergency as opposed to a very green rookie.  That's one thing that they definitely added to the roster this offseason.  No one blinks an eye at the signing of guys like Lazar,  but it never hurts to have your pick of a few near NHL-level bodies when the inevitable injuries hit.

 

Than and I'd much rather call up a 4th line guy for 4th line minutes as opposed to previous years where you might call up a Nylander and give him 4th line minutes.  We don't really have any current young prospect forwards in Rochester, so I'll stick with that Nylander example for now.

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23 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

Yes you quickly forget, but it's also the kind of depth that all teams need.  It's nice to have that kind of player to call up in an emergency as opposed to a very green rookie.  That's one thing that they definitely added to the roster this offseason.  No one blinks an eye at the signing of guys like Lazar,  but it never hurts to have your pick of a few near NHL-level bodies when the inevitable injuries hit.

 

Than and I'd much rather call up a 4th line guy for 4th line minutes as opposed to previous years where you might call up a Nylander and give him 4th line minutes.  We don't really have any current young prospect forwards in Rochester, so I'll stick with that Nylander example for now.

I think you grossly misunderstood what I said. No one is saying that he wouldn't be a capable call up player. I even mentioned that in my prior post. What I am saying as of right now he hasn't earned a spot on the big club's roster. Other players are ahead of him. He competed against those players in camp and didn't sufficiently move up the ranks. How else are you going to do it? You compete and let the chips fall where they fall. 

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The attached link is a column by AP's Johb Wawrow. This link came from the hockey side of TBD. It focuses on Krueger and what the hire might mean for the Sabres. John W believes that with the additions and better coaching this team should stay in playoff contention up to the end of the season. He believes the team earning 90 points is a reasonable expectation. 

 

https://apnews.com/ee7b353f3a5e49da83313f69cab05636?view=getnewpost

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1 hour ago, JohnC said:

The attached link is a column by AP's Johb Wawrow. This link came from the hockey side of TBD. It focuses on Krueger and what the hire might mean for the Sabres. John W believes that with the additions and better coaching this team should stay in playoff contention up to the end of the season. He believes the team earning 90 points is a reasonable expectation. 

 

https://apnews.com/ee7b353f3a5e49da83313f69cab05636?view=getnewpost

Well, we will know by the end of October!:lol:

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The attached link is a Buffalo News article written by Mike Harrington. It was taken from the hockey side of TBD.  It focused on Mittelstadt and his effort to find his way. Harrington conjectured that it appears that Cozen is destined to be sent back to the juniors. 

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/23/buffalo-sabres-nhl-casey-mittelstadt/?view=getnewpost

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This link is a column written by Bill Hoppe from the Buffalo Hockey beat. It focuses on Rodriques and his versatility. This team desperately needs to address its secondary scoring deficiency. He and Sheary can skate but can they finish? 

 

http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/sabres-evan-rodrigues-confident-after-showcasing-versatility-last-season/?view=getnewpost

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31 minutes ago, JohnC said:

This team desperately needs to address its secondary scoring deficiency.

 

I thought they addressed that last year by having their primary scorers stop scoring?  

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1 minute ago, bbb said:

 

I thought they addressed that last year by having their primary scorers stop scoring?  

You are a provocateur. :ph34r:

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9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

😯

Ever since he grew that porn star mustache he has been acting up. :ph34r:

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