Deranged Rhino Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: #1: He's not Donald Trump #2: He's not Donald Trump Those truly are my answers both as a person AND from a policy perspective That's why you're in for a looooooooong 5 years, friend 7 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Your hatred for Trump is evident. I don't understand it, but, like so many people I know, it is clearly a driving force for you. From a policy perspective, you are right, Biden is not Trump; however, I was hoping for a little insight into what Biden policies would lead you to vote for him. From a personal perspective, on the other other hand, I believe you are kidding yourself if you think Biden is any different / better than Trump. By supporting Biden, @transplantbillsfan is loudly supporting: * Men who rape women, assault women and children in public settings (let alone in private) * Politicians who use their office to line their own pockets and that of their families * Subverting the notion of a peaceful transition of power * Abusing the surveillance tools of our CT and CI services to spy on political opposition * Regime change, perma-war, and never ending foreign policy blunders. ... He MUST be supporting all these things, because that's No Chance Joe's actual record. He'd rather have ALL THAT just because the media convinced him to turn off his brain because ORANGE MAN BAD 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's why you're in for a looooooooong 5 years, friend By supporting Biden, @transplantbillsfan is loudly supporting: * Men who rape women, assault women and children in public settings (let alone in private) * Politicians who use their office to line their own pockets and that of their families * Subverting the notion of a peaceful transition of power * Abusing the surveillance tools of our CT and CI services to spy on political opposition * Regime change, perma-war, and never ending foreign policy blunders. ... He MUST be supporting all these things, because that's No Chance Joe's actual record. He'd rather have ALL THAT just because the media convinced him to turn off his brain because ORANGE MAN BAD Please, we all know those absolute and provable facts are negated by the 284 women who have been paid off to accuse Trump of being naughty 18-40 years ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: #1: He's not Donald Trump #2: He's not Donald Trump Those truly are my answers both as a person AND from a policy perspective So, if that's your criteria then you would be willing to vote for anyone in order to get rid of Trump? Tell us, is there any way you would actually vote for Trump? What if Trump's opponent was Hitler? Putin? David Duke? Harvey Weinstein? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's why you're in for a looooooooong 5 years, friend By supporting Biden, @transplantbillsfan is loudly supporting: * Men who rape women, assault women and children in public settings (let alone in private) * Politicians who use their office to line their own pockets and that of their families * Subverting the notion of a peaceful transition of power * Abusing the surveillance tools of our CT and CI services to spy on political opposition * Regime change, perma-war, and never ending foreign policy blunders. ... He MUST be supporting all these things, because that's No Chance Joe's actual record. He'd rather have ALL THAT just because the media convinced him to turn off his brain because ORANGE MAN BAD DR, just by looking at Biden, his short term health might be in serious jeopardy. No one who looks and talks like he does lasts. I speak from experience with my four grandparents. What Biden has lost mentally and physically, he ain't gettin back. There is a chance he won't be around in November and if he is, his mental capacity might be shot. I am not saying this as a political item, I am saying this as a medical item with politics not being involved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's why you're in for a looooooooong 5 years, friend By supporting Biden, @transplantbillsfan is loudly supporting: * Men who rape women, assault women and children in public settings (let alone in private) * Politicians who use their office to line their own pockets and that of their families * Subverting the notion of a peaceful transition of power * Abusing the surveillance tools of our CT and CI services to spy on political opposition * Regime change, perma-war, and never ending foreign policy blunders. ... He MUST be supporting all these things, because that's No Chance Joe's actual record. He'd rather have ALL THAT just because the media convinced him to turn off his brain because ORANGE MAN BAD Did you ever consider the fact that Tara may have liked it, what with Joe being so skillful? -) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: He was not on a list of “creepy” male senators that female staffers told each other to avoid in the elevators on Capitol Hill. You can bet money he would have been at some point. Joe Biden didn't just decide to start sniffing hair in public one day. There was probably inappropriate contact many years ago, for many years, out of the view of the camera, and no one told him to cut it out. That would be enabling by staffers.None of the people interviewed said that they had experienced sexual harassment, assault or misconduct by Biden. All said they never heard any rumors or allegations of Biden engaging in sexual misconduct, until the recent assault allegation made by Tara Reade. The only way that is true (no rumors), is a shame factor. What did I do to cause him to do XYZ? He's never done that before, it must have been something I did. Or the rationalization factor, "Oh, that's just Joe!" or "He doesn't mean anything by it." or "I must have read him wrong."The interviews revealed previously unreported details about the Biden office when Reade worked there, such as an account that she lost her job because of her poor performance, not as retaliation for lodging complaints about sexual harassment, as Reade has said. Other recollections from former staffers corroborated things she has described publicly, such as Biden’s use of the Senate gym and a supervisor admonishing her for dressing inappropriately. That will be the story from now on. That was not what first came out (she lost her job because she filed a complaint), but they are going full on blaming the victim, she's crazy, yada yada. She may be, but this a very old approach to discrediting a sexual assault victim.“The one thing about Joe Biden is, he is a man of the highest character and that’s why these accusations are so surreal and just can’t comport with the man I worked with,” said Marcia Lee Taylor, a senior policy advisor on the Judiciary Committee, where women held leading roles when Biden served as chairman. I mean come on... this guy sold out his country for money from the Ukraine (where the Obama administration participated in the coup election over there), sold out to China for money, he participated in a soft-coup here... the inappropriate touching and sniffing in front of cameras... "highest character" uh huh, what was she paid or given in exchange for that quote? (Assuming it is the real quote and not twisted.) I could go piece by piece on the article, but you asked if his staff "enabled" him - that would be (most likely as I cannot know for certain) a yes. He's been in a position of high power (it doesn't get much higher than Senator and Vice President of the United States), and people would not be telling him "no" very often. And, if they did tell him "no," like it or not, their career in politics, and probably out of politics too, would be over. KaBoom. Much more detailed than I had hoped for, and very much appreciated . It really reads like a vignette from a sexual harassment seminar about the power dynamic, rationalization to the extreme and normalizing predatory behavior. In fact, the creators of such a seminar could not draw up a cast of characters like Biden, Kennedy and the like and have it even remotely believable. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 @Buffalo_Gal On post above -) means "tongue in cheek". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: So, if that's your criteria then you would be willing to vote for anyone in order to get rid of Trump? Tell us, is there any way you would actually vote for Trump? What if Trump's opponent was Hitler? Putin? David Duke? Harvey Weinstein? Trump over a socialist, a communist, and two Democrats? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Exactly! The Tara story removes morale conduct from the arsenal of weaponry that EITHER candidate can wield against the other. Except one guy's had more than 2 dozen accusations of sexual assault/ misconduct and has been sued for it and settled those lawsuits for undisclosed amounts of money. He's also had a history of sleeping around and being unfaithful. He's also made statements caught on tape claiming he can grab women by the ***** and get away with it without asking. The other guy has one sexual assault allegation that's been changing since she initially came public (both from her AND one of her corroborating witnesses) and as time rolls on has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese. I'll say it again, if Biden did this, it's despicable. I just question if you guys are bothering to actually consider the facts of the case and consider that he didn't do it. 6 hours ago, Koko78 said: Interesting. I wonder what part he found most "skillful": The part where he ignored it, the part where he denied it, the part where he acted like an idiot about his Senate records, the part where #metoo got sold out because we no longer automatically believe women without conclusive proof, or the part where his camp sent the liberal attack dogs to smear her. He states it directly. One must be literate and read in order to find it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's why you're in for a looooooooong 5 years, friend By supporting Biden, @transplantbillsfan is loudly supporting: * Men who rape women, assault women and children in public settings (let alone in private) * Politicians who use their office to line their own pockets and that of their families * Subverting the notion of a peaceful transition of power * Abusing the surveillance tools of our CT and CI services to spy on political opposition * Regime change, perma-war, and never ending foreign policy blunders. ... He MUST be supporting all these things, because that's No Chance Joe's actual record. He'd rather have ALL THAT just because the media convinced him to turn off his brain because ORANGE MAN BAD help us out - what’s is Trumps record? How many American covid deaths? How many lost jobs? How many unemployed? How many rape cases? How many DNA requests? How many parties did he cohost w Epstein at MaraLago? How many 13 year olds did Trump rape? How many women did Trump pay off? How many women did Trump cheat w married? How many children with different wives? How many small small businesses went under because Trump F’s them over? How many bankruptcies? Stupid people shouldn’t breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Except one guy's had more than 2 dozen accusations of sexual assault/ misconduct and has been sued for it and settled those lawsuits for undisclosed amounts of money. He's also had a history of sleeping around and being unfaithful. He's also made statements caught on tape claiming he can grab women by the ***** and get away with it without asking. The other guy has one sexual assault allegation that's been changing since she initially came public (both from her AND one of her corroborating witnesses) and as time rolls on has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese. I'll say it again, if Biden did this, it's despicable. I just question if you guys are bothering to actually consider the facts of the case and consider that he didn't do it. He states it directly. One must be literate and read in order to find it, though. What's the latest from Stormy Daniels? Didn't she change her claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: What's the latest from Stormy Daniels? Didn't she change her claims? Isn’t it sad you even have to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: He states it directly. One must be literate and read in order to find it, though. Once again you demonstrate your astounding intellect by completely missing the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: What's the latest from Stormy Daniels? Didn't she change her claims? Probably back to nowhere, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Probably back to nowhere, again. Yes, you are correct. My question was to the Hawaiian guy and it was rhetorical. BillSlime had to open his mouth and show his ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Except one guy's had more than 2 dozen accusations of sexual assault/ misconduct and has been sued for it and settled those lawsuits for undisclosed amounts of money. He's also had a history of sleeping around and being unfaithful. He's also made statements caught on tape claiming he can grab women by the ***** and get away with it without asking. The other guy has one sexual assault allegation that's been changing since she initially came public (both from her AND one of her corroborating witnesses) and as time rolls on has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese. I'll say it again, if Biden did this, it's despicable. I just question if you guys are bothering to actually consider the facts of the case and consider that he didn't do it. He states it directly. One must be literate and read in order to find it, though. There is nothing to question. You surely realize that a victim of sexual assault is traumatized multiple times, and that inconsistencies are sure to arise. It’s a hallmark of abusers and their enablers to become hyper-fixated on small inconsistencies while claiming that the predator is the real victim. Interesting phrasing here: I'll say it again, if Biden did this, it’s despicable. “It’s” despicable? Not “he’s” despicable? It’s fascinating the lengths people will go to to rationalize their own thought process, even as their subconscious is screaming at them that there’s a disconnect with their value system. Good stuff. Question....what were your thoughts on the treatment of Brett Kavanaugh by people like the Vox author, Gilibrand, Pelosi and Biden? Did you agree with them then? Or, now? Edited May 17, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: There is nothing to question. You surely realize that a victim of sexual assault is traumatized multiple times, and that inconsistencies are sure to arise. It’s a hallmark of abusers and their enablers to become hyper-fixated on small inconsistencies while claiming that the predator is the real victim. Interesting phrasing here: I'll say it again, if Biden did this, it’s despicable. “It’s” despicable? Not “he’s” despicable? It’s fascinating the lengths people will go to to rationalize their own thought process, even as their subconscious is screaming at them that there’s a disconnect with their value system. Good stuff. Question....what were your thoughts on the treatment of Brett Kavanaugh by people like the Vox author, Gilibrand, Pelosi and Biden? Did you agree with them then? Or, now? Don't forget the part where we don't believe all women anymore, unless they provide contemporary, concrete, unimpeachable evidence backed by a signed affidavit from the flying spaghetti monster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Thread on Biden’s long history of groping children and women in public. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/930065838387863552 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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