Deranged Rhino Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...quick question DR....should we anticipate the hype/ramp up to the Durham Report ends up being an unceremonious dud?......if, IF it is, the MSM will have a feeding frenzy like no other..... @BillsFanNC already answered well -- but I didn't want to ignore this good question. If Durham comes back with no more indictments and a report that promises "institutional fixes" to the multiple issues at play here (beyond just the FISC and 702 program), then we have a MUCH bigger problem than just a rabid and partisan media. There are at least a dozen (if not more) unelected officials who broke the law and took part in a seditious conspiracy against the People of the United States. The evidence to make the cases against these people available in open source, let alone what's left behind the walls of declassification, is clear and definitive on that matter. If Barr and Durham let those people walk in order to protect the institutions, then it will show they aren't the people we hoped they are. It would be a betrayal of everything they've been supposedly working for since Barr took over. And if it happens before November 3rd, it likely costs Trump the election. To be clear, I do not expect any politicians to be indicted (meaning Obama, Clinton, Biden, or Kerry), and I've long said it's doubtful (though possible) that the cappos of the USIC would get indicted (meaning Brennan, Clapper, Hayden, Morrell) due to the complications which would arise from putting former intel heads on trial. But that leaves a swath of high ranking 7th floor types, directors, and cabinet officials like: McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Rice, Lynch, Page, Baker, Priestep, Winer, Nuland + more vulnerable. There needs to be a reckoning within that group, and I still suspect there will be. The media will "pounce" regardless as BillsFanNC pointed out, but that will be the least of our problems as a country if Durham doesn't deliver more than just Clinesmith. Not because of politics or partisanship, but because it would signal a surrender to the establishment machine and leave us living in the illusion of a free republic wherein the People have a say in who is elected to leadership, rather than living in an actual free republic. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Trump just went OFF about SpyGate in the press conference. 🍿 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: @BillsFanNC already answered well -- but I didn't want to ignore this good question. If Durham comes back with no more indictments and a report that promises "institutional fixes" to the multiple issues at play here (beyond just the FISC and 702 program), then we have a MUCH bigger problem than just a rabid and partisan media. There are at least a dozen (if not more) unelected officials who broke the law and took part in a seditious conspiracy against the People of the United States. The evidence to make the cases against these people available in open source, let alone what's left behind the walls of declassification, is clear and definitive on that matter. If Barr and Durham let those people walk in order to protect the institutions, then it will show they aren't the people we hoped they are. It would be a betrayal of everything they've been supposedly working for since Barr took over. And if it happens before November 3rd, it likely costs Trump the election. To be clear, I do not expect any politicians to be indicted (meaning Obama, Clinton, Biden, or Kerry), and I've long said it's doubtful (though possible) that the cappos of the USIC would get indicted (meaning Brennan, Clapper, Hayden, Morrell) due to the complications which would arise from putting former intel heads on trial. But that leaves a swath of high ranking 7th floor types, directors, and cabinet officials like: McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Rice, Lynch, Page, Baker, Priestep, Winer, Nuland + more vulnerable. There needs to be a reckoning within that group, and I still suspect there will be. The media will "pounce" regardless as BillsFanNC pointed out, but that will be the least of our problems as a country if Durham doesn't deliver more than just Clinesmith. Not because of politics or partisanship, but because it would signal a surrender to the establishment machine and leave us living in the illusion of a free republic wherein the People have a say in who is elected to leadership, rather than living in an actual free republic. I don't see Durham coming back with anything but indictments, however many there are. There will be no recommendations for "institutional fixes". That's not his job. I doubt he'll even address any specific person who does not get indicted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 12:56 PM, Deranged Rhino said: That's a good point as well, and very likely. Barr said for weeks now to expect Durham sometime around Labor Day... here we are. nothing yet...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 This is not exactly news to those of us here, but maybe it means we are closer to some actual action if this is filtering out now. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 ***** off pipsqueak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Hedge said: This is not exactly news to those of us here, but maybe it means we are closer to some actual action if this is filtering out now. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Sure seems like Durham is lining up a kill shot on Brennan. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Sure seems like Durham is lining up a kill shot on Brennan. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 For all of you that seem to be following along with the Barr/Durham efforts. Poll question for fun: If you could pick just 1 non elected person to go jail for their roll in this, who would it be and why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe Miner said: For all of you that seem to be following along with the Barr/Durham efforts. Poll question for fun: If you could pick just 1 non elected person to go jail for their roll in this, who would it be and why? Role Brennan, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe Miner said: For all of you that seem to be following along with the Barr/Durham efforts. Poll question for fun: If you could pick just 1 non elected person to go jail for their roll in this, who would it be and why? Brennan. Because he's the guiltiest of the lot. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Brennan. Because he's the guiltiest of the lot. Yep. Brennan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Brennan. Because he's the guiltiest of the lot. ...make him the bell hop at Gitmo.......just loathe that arrogant puss as if he's saying, "sorry I AM above the Law"....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...make him the bell hop at Gitmo.......just loathe that arrogant puss as if he's saying, "sorry I AM above the Law"....... Hope during his stay there he develops a limp like Walter Brennan from being jumped by the Islamic fundamentalists sociopaths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I'm starting to think that Durham is part of the cover up. Delay....delay...delay. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Joe Miner said: For all of you that seem to be following along with the Barr/Durham efforts. Poll question for fun: If you could pick just 1 non elected person to go jail for their roll in this, who would it be and why? Just to be different because I too would like to see Brennan indicted and jailed, my pick is Andrew Weissmann. Edited September 8, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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