Q-baby! Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Maybe they should have raked the attic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/tylermonroe7/status/1117860871215013889 Shep is not a good newsman. He's a propagandist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I remember his rants, “You’re gonna die. You’re gonna DIE!” Scaring people on the coast during a hurricane that fizzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/tylermonroe7/status/1117860871215013889 Shep is not a good newsman. He's a propagandist. What is it that you believe he did wrong in that clip? 2 hours ago, GG said: Goodie, now he's an expert in firefighting again. What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* *and stupidly Ha can’t stop the idiotic from leaking out, even after a good couple of weeks for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* Arguably not much worse than what's happened. It's toast. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* *and stupidly Ha can’t stop the idiotic from leaking out, even after a good couple of weeks for him. 1 You ever been? There is more than Notre Dame in the area. What if that fire had spread? What if the building had collapsed spewing fire and hot debris? While there is a fair amount of clear area around the building, there are bushes, shrubs, and buildings close, not to mention the cars (and why my last photos were not that great). The news reports had police finally moving people away more than 30 minutes after the fire started. The early word was that there simply wasn't the correct equipment to reach the fire early enough to contain it, and then when the equipment moved in, it took quite some time to move into place. They did not move quickly enough (possibly unprepared?) to save Notre Dame. The issue with water from above was not necessarily the old building, but not knowing what current construction materials were on premises. Once that was known, yeah, water from above might have been helpful - providing it could have been dropped directly on the fire (not sure of wind, accuracy, etc). There are helicopters with bambi-buckets used in Europe. I am not certain of the logistics of using them in the Seine, and how accurately they could have deployed the water above the burning cathedral. Read this. It is interesting and informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Some good news: Quote “Good news: all the works of art were saved,” reported French journalist Nicolas Delesalle. “The treasure of the Cathedral is intact, the Crown of thorns, the Holy sacraments.” https://news.yahoo.com/live-updates-fire-at-notre-dame-cathedral-in-paris-173732973.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You ever been? There is more than Notre Dame in the area. What if that fire had spread? What if the building had collapsed spewing fire and hot debris? While there is a fair amount of clear area around the building, there are bushes, shrubs, and buildings close, not to mention the cars (and why my last photos were not that great). The news reports had police finally moving people away more than 30 minutes after the fire started. The early word was that there simply wasn't the correct equipment to reach the fire early enough to contain it, and then when the equipment moved in, it took quite some time to move into place. They did not move quickly enough (possibly unprepared?) to save Notre Dame. The issue with water from above was not necessarily the old building, but not knowing what current construction materials were on premises. Once that was known, yeah, water from above might have been helpful - providing it could have been dropped directly on the fire (not sure of wind, accuracy, etc). There are helicopters with bambi-buckets used in Europe. I am not certain of the logistics of using them in the Seine, and how accurately they could have deployed the water above the burning cathedral. Read this. It is interesting and informative. I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. How about, “Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and the brave firefighters trying to save a cultural treasure.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. How about, “Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and the brave firefighters trying to save a cultural treasure.” Desperate to criticize, the BM is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Desperate to criticize, the BM is. Trump had a good week last week. It’s ok to criticize him when he’s a jagoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: What is it that you believe he did wrong in that clip? What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* *and stupidly Ha can’t stop the idiotic from leaking out, even after a good couple of weeks for him. Right, like the French could even scramble and fill a plane in time. But an aerial dropping would have been the only way to at least partially contain the fire early on. The structure was too high for fire trucks and fire boats. Just hanging out there with fire hoses was completely ineffective. But don’t let me get in the way of your Trump bashing fun. I hope ole no one was injured or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Desperate to criticize, the BM is. Because he's got nothing, and I mean nothing, else to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. Why, you might even say Trump acted "stupidly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. How about, “Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and the brave firefighters trying to save a cultural treasure.” It must be really miserable going through life looking for stuff to complain about. SMH Edited April 15, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It must be really miserable going through like looking for stuff to complain about. SMH No. It’s quite easy actually. Just pick a quote and begin nit picking and then nag your way to a heightened state of self-importance and moral authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Someone has faith in the French authorities to not need the help of the American President... man, we are really re-writing history around here. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It must be really miserable going through like looking for stuff to complain about. SMH I find it tragic that this happened and our president can’t show compassion but instead chimes in with cheap sideline advice. I expect more from him. You don’t and that’s ok. 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Because he's got nothing, and I mean nothing, else to offer. Why did you attack Shep Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Also heard the same on CNBC a moment ago... (they quoted French media as well, for clarity rather than offering a second source/confirmation) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said: I find it tragic that this happened and our president can’t show compassion but instead chimes in with cheap sideline advice. I expect more from him. You don’t and that’s ok. But when people offer thoughts and prayers for mass shootings?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Someone has faith in the French authorities to not need the help of the American President... man, we are really re-writing history around here. Equating ww2 to a fire in the cathedral is really a strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: But when people offer thoughts and prayers for mass shootings?... He's lying. It's what he does. People can make fun of Trump offering armchair advice - that's fair game. But to say he didn't show compassion in that tweet is a bald faced lie. But it's what Ben Franklin/BM does. It's what he always does. He's a dishonest person to his core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: But when people offer thoughts and prayers for mass shootings?... It’s all we can do in the moment and I find it to be one of the only ways to express empathy with the victims and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 one could always post a poem/?/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Liars gonna lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: He's lying. It's what he does. People can make fun of Trump offering armchair advice - that's fair game. But to say he didn't show compassion in that tweet is a bald faced lie. But it's what Ben Franklin/BM does. It's what he always does. He's a dishonest person to his core. I’m Gary and a paid deep state operative. Why did you question Shep for telling the guy to stop speculating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 No compassion... but for the entire ***** tweet. Ben Franklin/BM can't help but lie when they want to make a point. Why? Because he's incapable of thinking for himself, or being honest. It physically pains him to do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Also heard the same on CNBC a moment ago... (they quoted French media as well, for clarity rather than offering a second source/confirmation) Hm. How about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: Equating ww2 to a fire in the cathedral is really a strong point. Was I too vague? Let me be clearer.... France would not exist if not for the office of the President of the United States of America. So when the man who holds that office says something to French authorities, regardless how inconsequential it is, it has weight. I'm sorry that you pucker every time he says something because you're so butt-hurt because the bad man won the presidency. Doesn't change reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Also heard the same on CNBC a moment ago... (they quoted French media as well, for clarity rather than offering a second source/confirmation) What did Q say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Liars gonna lie. Link to me criticizing the thoughts and prayers line like the lib left often do. I’ll be right here. You may need a mirror with your post. You’re obsessed with me brother. Wishing me to die a slow death for criticizing Q? Telling me I’m your personal enemy? Get a grip man. Edited April 15, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 See? He's caught lying, and then he backs away or changes the discussion completely - like a dishonest person would do. Because he's an unrepentant asshat. His words: "our president can't show compassion" And the quoted tweet did nothing but show compassion. You're a fraud, Ben. A ***** fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: See? He's caught lying, and then he backs away or changes the discussion completely - like a dishonest person would do. Because he's an unrepentant asshat. His words: "our president can't show compassion" And the quoted tweet did nothing but show compassion. You're a fraud, Ben. A ***** fraud. So now you have a problem with lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No compassion... but for the entire ***** tweet. Ben Franklin/BM can't help but lie when they want to make a point. Why? Because he's incapable of thinking for himself, or being honest. It physically pains him to do either. I lied when I said that Trump should shut up on advice and just offer his compassion? That’s my opinion. And as to being critical of him offering advice, I wasn’t even the first to do so. Going to address why you chose that clip to attack Shep Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 You didn't offer advice. You're lying again. You can't even be honest about what you post. You said he DID NOT offer compassion, just advice. That's a bald faced lie. So either you're a liar or illiterate. There is no third option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Deranged re-tard was coming up with his conspiracy theory 2 seconds after the fire started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Run away again. Change the topic again. Do what you do... be a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You didn't offer advice. You're lying again. You can't even be honest about what you post. You said he DID NOT offer compassion, just advice. That's a bald faced lie. So either you're a liar or illiterate. There is no third option. No answer on why you rushed here critical of Shep Smith for being a "propagandist" when he cut off someone who was deep into speculation on what happened in the fire? I've asked 3 times. You're the one who posted it here in this thread, not me. The president is not just showing compassion when he jumps in with stupid armchair advice. I typed that s l o w l y to help you. You can disagree with that all you want and maybe you can provide me his long CV of firefighting expertise as a counter to my opinion, but I'm going to stick with my original statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I lied when I said that Trump should shut up on advice and just offer his compassion? That’s my opinion. And as to being critical of him offering advice, I wasn’t even the first to do so. Going to address why you chose that clip to attack Shep Smith? It's really offputting when something like this gets politicized. Kinda obscene. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 https://twitter.com/GreggFavre/status/1117859402860650496 and not so inconsequentially... structures such as these, the side stone walls are constructed in a buttressed nature so as to not fall outward, with the roofing structure holding them in place. the inclination now will be for them to fall inward. couple this with weakened mortar and it is my bet that the entire structure will be declared unsafe and either fall inward or be demolished. total and complete loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Dante said: It's really offputting when something like this gets politicized. Kinda obscene. All he can do is lie and change topics. Look how much he's had to slide his original statement already. He's an unrepentant asshat, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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