Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 21 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...respectfully, we agree to disagree... despite the obvious talent and the diva Big Ben being the perpetrator of Steeler turmoil, I don't want AB on the team.... Ya know even if Ben was the perpetrator, he got all pissy because juju got team MVP... Josh doesn’t need to navigate that nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Ya know even if Ben was the perpetrator, he got all pissy because juju got team MVP... Josh doesn’t need to navigate that nonsense. ...1000% spot on.......humble and respectful of the game.....I'd bet even if he becomes HIGHLY successful, that will NEVER change...just a hunch...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 12:14 PM, billsfan_34 said: Salary cap hell and moving up for Watkins is a good definition of a mess. This "salary cap hell" narrative just isn't true. The only player they had to let walk was Gilmore. They could have easily kept everyone else. They made the decision to gut the roster and purge players they didn't see as good fits. That's fine. Time will tell whether or not they can properly rebuild the roster they deconstructed. Beane has done some good things and some bad things. He does seem to have an overall plan, which is great if it works out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...yup...AB is the ONLY weapon on the planet.......an astute observation.....SMH.... ...oh joy...YOU again.......IGNORE is a beautiful thing....try it......PLEASE..... Maybe YOU should take your own advice and put those posters with whom you constantly disagree with on ignore instead of continually insulting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 19 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: They probably wanted out of QB purgatory. So far it looks like they made the right choices. What QB did you want the to draft? Deshaun Watson. I love the Tredavian Nightmare and all, but he ain't a Pro Bowl QB after 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 5 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: This "salary cap hell" narrative just isn't true. The only player they had to let walk was Gilmore. They could have easily kept everyone else. They made the decision to gut the roster and purge players they didn't see as good fits. That's fine. Time will tell whether or not they can properly rebuild the roster they deconstructed. Beane has done some good things and some bad things. He does seem to have an overall plan, which is great if it works out. Dareus’s contract comes to mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 16 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Deshaun Watson. I love the Tredavian Nightmare and all, but he ain't a Pro Bowl QB after 2 years. I think Josh Allen was the target even when they traded that pick. Having QB classes like that, back to back is amazing. But they knew it already. I liked Trubisky, Mahomes and Watson as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: I think Josh Allen was the target even when they traded that pick. Having QB classes like that, back to back is amazing. But they knew it already. I liked Trubisky, Mahomes and Watson as well. That's simply nonsense. Beane wasn't the GM in 2017 -- and he was working for the Carolina Panthers. McDermott was a defensive coordinator about 3 months into his first HC job. Brandon's track record on finding talent in the first round was Donte Whitner, John McCargo, Marshawn Lynch, Leodis McKelvin, Aaron Maybin, and Eric Wood. Do you really think Terry Pegula is a NFL personnel guru??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Until at least the end of 2019 we won't know. Looks good on paper doesn't cut it. Remember the "dream team"? A big leap (No pun intended) out of Allen and Edmunds would be a big help. Neither of them impressed me in year 1. We are full of average players where last year we were starting backup caliber guys. Now we need the game changers -- guys like AB, JJ Watt, Brady. This coming draft is still make or break and our D needs help a LOT more than I think many people realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 15 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Dareus’s contract comes to mind I was so pumped when Denver passed on Darius to draft Von Miller instead. Looks like Elway had it right all along. Dareus is easily my biggest dissapointment in recent years and not because he's a just above average DT but because he could have been a HOF'er if he wanted to be and he threw it away. I'm glad he's blowing up someone else's cap now. So sad. 47 minutes ago, SoTier said: That's simply nonsense. Beane wasn't the GM in 2017 -- and he was working for the Carolina Panthers. McDermott was a defensive coordinator about 3 months into his first HC job. Brandon's track record on finding talent in the first round was Donte Whitner, John McCargo, Marshawn Lynch, Leodis McKelvin, Aaron Maybin, and Eric Wood. Do you really think Terry Pegula is a NFL personnel guru??? Yet another poster crediting Beane and McDermott for Whaley's last draft. Truly amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 21 hours ago, SoTier said: Maybe YOU should take your own advice and put those posters with whom you constantly disagree with on ignore instead of continually insulting them. ...let me ruminate a bit...FWIW, I do have MYSELF on IGNORE......works great............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: Yet another poster crediting Beane and McDermott for Whaley's last draft. Truly amazing. I wasn't crediting Beane and/or McDermott for the 2017 draft. One wasn't here and the other had way too much on his plate to be looking at players who weren't even in the draft, which is what the poster I referenced claimed the Bills had done (targeting Allen in 2017). In my view, Brandon probably ran the 2017 with some input from McDermott because by then Whaley was out (he was fired the day after the draft IIRC), although he seems to have run FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, SoTier said: That's simply nonsense. Beane wasn't the GM in 2017 -- and he was working for the Carolina Panthers. McDermott was a defensive coordinator about 3 months into his first HC job. Brandon's track record on finding talent in the first round was Donte Whitner, John McCargo, Marshawn Lynch, Leodis McKelvin, Aaron Maybin, and Eric Wood. Do you really think Terry Pegula is a NFL personnel guru??? I think McDermott wanted Allen. I also believe Beane coming here was predetermined when Pegs hired McD. Allen was talked about more before the year he came out for the draft. Edited April 8, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...let me ruminate a bit...FWIW, I do have MYSELF on IGNORE......works great............ There are 3 posters right now that Im trying not to put on ignore. Sometimes they are right on about things, but other times I just cant figure out if they are knowledgable adults or middle school trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...let me ruminate a bit...FWIW, I do have MYSELF on IGNORE......works great............ Thats a quality I can admire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: Yet another poster crediting Beane and McDermott for Whaley's last draft. Truly amazing. (sigh)...Gregg, please tell me you don't believe Whaley was running that draft. It's just about the most naive thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: There are 3 posters right now that Im trying not to put on ignore. Sometimes they are right on about things, but other times I just cant figure out if they are knowledgable adults or middle school trolls. ...so am I #1, 2 or 3?...just askin'............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 hours ago, GreggTX said: I was so pumped when Denver passed on Darius to draft Von Miller instead. Looks like Elway had it right all along. Dareus is easily my biggest dissapointment in recent years and not because he's a just above average DT but because he could have been a HOF'er if he wanted to be and he threw it away. I'm glad he's blowing up someone else's cap now. So sad. Yet another poster crediting Beane and McDermott for Whaley's last draft. Truly amazing. So many forget the Whaley blunders. IMO his biggest mistake was not standing up to Russ Brandon and telling him to stay away from the football side of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: So many forget the Whaley blunders. IMO his biggest mistake was not standing up to Russ Brandon and telling him to stay away from the football side of the house. Whaley didn't run the 2017 draft. Brandon, likely with help from McDermott or just McDermott ran it since Whaley was already shut out of the decision making. He was fired the day after the draft, probably on orders from Pegula. Ralph Wilson was attributed to have said something like Brandon was "like his son". From 2006, he pretty much had free rein in running the team, and as Wilson's health deteriorated after 2010, Brandon operated as defacto owner until Pegula purchased the team in October 2013. How, in the light of Wilson's support and Brandon's power within the organization, was Whaley supposed to tell Brandon to "stay out of the football side of the house"? How long do you think you'd last in your job if you trotted up to the CEO of your employer and told him to keep his nose out of running the business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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