LSHMEAB Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I feel like all this should have been said about Whaley after his 2nd year when we went 9-7 with the number 2 defense. If you can't tell why it's different THIS time, you just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, Success said: A lot of cautious replies. We’ve been so beaten down by hope over the years. He’s done an incredible job so far. The optimism is well founded. He’s the perfect GM for this time - he is positioning the Bills well to have the opportunity to take over the division post-Brady. Agreed he def is making the right steps to challenge and take over the division. Until I see that happen though Beaner will not get crowned by myself yet. Heck, even if we can't take the division at least give me back to back 10+ win seasons with some wild cards. I will 100% be open for this conversation at that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 12:09 PM, Logic said: Good post. And I won't agree that "incomplete" is the logical final grade. But with an "A" in all the major categories you explained, I'd say the grade is trending toward...well....an "A"! It appears that he got an A on the midterm exam, but the final will be a lot tougher.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, TPS said: It appears that he got an A on the midterm exam, but the final will be a lot tougher.... ...exactly the way it should be, right?.....with the draft and eventual final 53 ahead, we reach the point of "show me between the white lines" to reach his final 2019 grade.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: The reason we got rid of Taylor hes he couldnt get the job done when it mattered most. And Nathan Peterman could get the job done AT ALL???? A team that is interested in winning football games does NOT trade away their starting QB with nobody on the roster except an uninspiring option as Peterman was and then dithers through much of the FA period before finally signing a FA QB who was a marginally decent backup QB with very little actually PT. You can spin it however you want to, but the timeline and the quality of the supposed "veteran" QBs the Bills had are facts. You can also add to the evidence of Beane being either incompetent in handling QBs or disinterested in putting a competitive team on the field that the Bills waited a month during the regular season before they bothered to add another backup QB after they traded McCarron -- and the guy they pulled off the golf course played in all of 2 games before being injured. Edited April 6, 2019 by SoTier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, ProcessAccepted said: How can you be so obtuse? So Tier's list is just crazy wrong as are you. 6 wins while you make the kinds of moves that Beane made is impressive. There is a definite plan in place to restore this franchise's reputation from what it's been for almost 2 decades. If you can't see it (or don't want to see it) then so be it. I'm sure when we are winning the division and competing for a SB you'll be one of the many claiming to have been on board the whole time. My list is "just crazy wrong" only in the minds of Bills apologists and cheerleaders like yourself. If by "the kinds of moves that Beane made" you mean trading away Taylor and Glenn, trading for Benjamin and Matthews and signing Bodine, Murphy, McCarron, and Anderson, then yeah, 6 wins is "impressive". However, those "kinds of moves" are more fitting for a bottom 5 GM than a top 5 GM but carry on with your silliness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoTier said: My list is "just crazy wrong" only in the minds of Bills apologists and cheerleaders like yourself. If by "the kinds of moves that Beane made" you mean trading away Taylor and Glenn, trading for Benjamin and Matthews and signing Bodine, Murphy, McCarron, and Anderson, then yeah, 6 wins is "impressive". However, those "kinds of moves" are more fitting for a bottom 5 GM than a top 5 GM but carry on with your silliness. ...totally shocking and out of posting character that you would weigh in with such a negative diatribe....hell I'd bet Dr Ruth could help out immensely with those "painful loins"...SMH.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....it's a BLESSING........... Nope. Having the best receiver (or at least top 3) on what is essentially a 2 year deal when we have plenty of cap space this year and next would have been nice. Would have left no excuses for Allen. There is no aspect of the AB deal that is a negative. 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...totally shocking and out of posting character that you would weigh in with such a negative diatribe....hell I'd bet Dr Ruth could help out immensely with those "painful loins"...SMH.... You didn’t counter anything he said. Just pointed out that it’s negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, Chemical said: Nope. Having the best receiver (or at least top 3) on what is essentially a 2 year deal when we have plenty of cap space this year and next would have been nice. Would have left no excuses for Allen. There is no aspect of the AB deal that is a negative. ...respectfully, we agree to disagree... despite the obvious talent and the diva Big Ben being the perpetrator of Steeler turmoil, I don't want AB on the team.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...respectfully, we agree to disagree... despite the obvious talent and the diva Big Ben being the perpetrator of Steeler turmoil, I don't want AB on the team.... Weird. Well don’t want to hear lack of weapons for an excuse for Allen from you then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 9:17 AM, Virgil said: Remember when we thought we had our QB in Fitz and rewarded him early? So long as we are the Bills, I can't declare anyone a success until I see it on the field at the end of the season. BBFS for life! I remember when the Bills did it... I knew better though so I am not part of "we." I know others are in the same boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, SoTier said: And Nathan Peterman could get the job done AT ALL???? A team that is interested in winning football games does NOT trade away their starting QB with nobody on the roster except an uninspiring option as Peterman was and then dithers through much of the FA period before finally signing a FA QB who was a marginally decent backup QB with very little actually PT. You can spin it however you want to, but the timeline and the quality of the supposed "veteran" QBs the Bills had are facts. You can also add to the evidence of Beane being either incompetent in handling QBs or disinterested in putting a competitive team on the field that the Bills waited a month during the regular season before they bothered to add another backup QB after they traded McCarron -- and the guy they pulled off the golf course played in all of 2 games before being injured. They probably wanted out of QB purgatory. So far it looks like they made the right choices. What QB did you want the to draft? Edited April 7, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: I remember when the Bills did it... I knew better though so I am not part of "we." I know others are in the same boat. “We” are the Bills. We are their decisions. You couldn’t be a Bills fan and say you weren’t giving him the contract. It was done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Virgil said: “We” are the Bills. We are their decisions. You couldn’t be a Bills fan and say you weren’t giving him the contract. It was done Yes you can... If the president does something stupid doesnt mean the American people did the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Yes you can... If the president does something stupid doesnt mean the American people did the same. Still represents you. That's all I'm saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 19 hours ago, Chemical said: Weird. Well don’t want to hear lack of weapons for an excuse for Allen from you then. ...yup...AB is the ONLY weapon on the planet.......an astute observation.....SMH.... 19 hours ago, Chemical said: Nope. Having the best receiver (or at least top 3) on what is essentially a 2 year deal when we have plenty of cap space this year and next would have been nice. Would have left no excuses for Allen. There is no aspect of the AB deal that is a negative. You didn’t counter anything he said. Just pointed out that it’s negative. ...oh joy...YOU again.......IGNORE is a beautiful thing....try it......PLEASE..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...yup...AB is the ONLY weapon on the planet.......an astute observation.....SMH.... Antonio Brown has more td catches last season than Buffalo had passing TDS. Adding him makes it impossible for anyone to make excuses if Allen can’t produce. Right now it’s very possible I’m hearing excuses next offseason. Brown/Beasley have a combined 1 1,000 yard season. I never said he’s the only weapon on the planet but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I’m only trying to give Beane credit for trading for the best player at our biggest need position. Beane didn’t back out Brown did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 5:00 PM, Chemical said: Stop with this. AB didn't want to come here it's a FACT. Keep telling yourself AB wasn’t going to the highest bidder, buffalo included. His scorn ore might be 100% to do with buffalo passing with a ‘not worth it’ vote. So your “fact” is at best an out of context inference ... unless you were in the middle of discussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 1:45 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: I feel like all this should have been said about Whaley after his 2nd year when we went 9-7 with the number 2 defense. I hear you. Whaley was also the architect of the playoff roster. How would folks feel about him if he wanted mahommes and mcderm overrode him as a dead man walking and the new defacto ‘decider’ Doug found good players- and wasn’t helped with multiple schematic overhauls. I see Beane as even better, but I’m not sure Doug was ever the biggest problem. BTW - his cap hell moves were out of an arrogant assumption the team was close and going for flashy talent without a concept of team chemistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, Chemical said: Antonio Brown has more td catches last season than Buffalo had passing TDS. Adding him makes it impossible for anyone to make excuses if Allen can’t produce. Right now it’s very possible I’m hearing excuses next offseason. Brown/Beasley have a combined 1 1,000 yard season. I never said he’s the only weapon on the planet but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I’m only trying to give Beane credit for trading for the best player at our biggest need position. Beane didn’t back out Brown did. ...where the hell did I EVER say it was McBeane?....secondly, McBeane & McDermott are "in the know", not me....at the same time, I offered by lowly opinion of the move "from the posting bowels of the TBD basement" with humility and looking up at those here far more astute...my apology........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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