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1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but seems to me that if your "friend" acts that way, then the business exposed their numbskullery as opposed to creating it.

In the case of my friend I mentioned earlier, he was making a considerable salary before he was laid off. From what I could see, his desperate situation made him that way.

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6 hours ago, Gugny said:

Here's a snapshot of a couple weeks' worth of posts by my "soon to be a gazillionaire" facebook friend:

 

 

"Don't adapt to the energy in the room; influence the energy in the room."

 

"Would your income stop if you couldn't work?  What plan do you have in place if it does?  Curious ..."

 

"Two days ... another satisfied customer..."  (pushing the magic coffee that he's now peddling)

 

"I've tried keto ... couldn't do it, too restrictive and complicated for me.  Cup of happy coffee in the morning, down 14 lbs.  No restrictions."

 

"With a GIF, tell me what you want out of life right now."

 

"FACT:  Most people are looking for a side gig.

FACT:  And extra $500-$1000/month would change most families

FACT:  Most people fear what their friends and family would say.

FACT:  Your friends and family don't pay your bills, do they?"

FACT: This was me 8 years ago.  Don't be like me."

 

"For a lot of years I chased the money because I was conditioned to do so.  The last few years I've focused on helping others see the possibility in themselves.  It's by far more rewarding and by default by helping others.  The money follows"

 

"Real people, real results.  It's just coffee.  Simple."  (side by side pics of a man who lost weight)

 

"You weren't put here to just slave away building somebody else's dreams!!  Go after your passion and forget about what others say about it."  "If you are not willing to risk the unusual, you will have to settle for the ordinary."

let me guess...Lenny Dykstra ?

13 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Family as well

My wife's cousin sold her a Kirby vacuum cleaner.

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19 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

 

See that I've never understood. I've always just said "no thanks, but I'm happy for you and hope you do well". Never had an issue 

I was one of the last people to hear about their "new business". I got a bunch of calls and texts from other people asking if they tired to pitch me on this scheme. They told me the company, I did a little research and there was a bunch of info saying it's a scheme. I jokingly asked the person if they got tricked into a pyramid scheme and they lost it.

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1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I was one of the last people to hear about their "new business". I got a bunch of calls and texts from other people asking if they tired to pitch me on this scheme. They told me the company, I did a little research and there was a bunch of info saying it's a scheme. I jokingly asked the person if they got tricked into a pyramid scheme and they lost it.

 

be there when you can to help out, the person means a lot to you, as if you needed special projects at this time of year though, right?

 

 

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10 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I was one of the last people to hear about their "new business". I got a bunch of calls and texts from other people asking if they tired to pitch me on this scheme. They told me the company, I did a little research and there was a bunch of info saying it's a scheme. I jokingly asked the person if they got tricked into a pyramid scheme and they lost it.

 

Ha!  They hate the "P" word!

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On 12/20/2018 at 11:46 AM, Gugny said:

 

The first party someone has is always successful.  Friends are into it because it's a party and they also want to be of some support.

 

But then comes the next party.  Attendance is lower and many people come, but don't buy anything because it's just the same crap.

 

At this time, my ex realized that there was no money to be made and she was basically reduced to harassing/begging friends to attend parties.  So she told the friend who got her started that she didn't want to do it anymore.  That friend is the one who basically said, "okay ... eff you, then."

 

So through this process, she pissed off multiple friends with the harassment about attending parties and lost a friend because she wanted out.

I didn't really like this, but gave you a "Like."  I agree with the sentiment.  Sales is nothing but crap... Then there is the cut, the commision.  Just not me.  I harass family and friends enough with my ideals... I can't imagine selling something.

 

Anyway... I am off to the Festivus thread to air my grievance that there is no "in between" button between "Thanks" & "Like."  I would give your post the "Sad" rating... But it doesn't totally make me sad.  LoL... It kinda makes me happy, I like telling salespeople to ***** -off... LoL... Well, unless they get their meat hooks in Me first.  But, we all got a least a little bit of brutal consumer in us!

 

EDIT: This isn't saying I don't respect the hustle. I do respect the hustle, just leave me the ***** alone with the sales pitch.

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On 12/20/2018 at 11:42 AM, Chef Jim said:

 

There is this really cool feature on FB called unfriending.  You should try it.  

 

After unfriending the pyramid scheme dopes, the idiots who hyperventilate over politics every day, and the people who constantly post pictures of their dog or cat, or other uninteresting minutia, all I had left was ads.  It was an improvement.

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On ‎12‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 2:42 PM, Chef Jim said:

 

There is this really cool feature on FB called unfriending.  You should try it.  

 

I use "unfollow," pretty frequently.  I don't unfriend many.

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27 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

After unfriending the pyramid scheme dopes, the idiots who hyperventilate over politics every day, and the people who constantly post pictures of their dog or cat, or other uninteresting minutia, all I had left was ads.  It was an improvement.

 

The cat people are the good ones of that crew, not as recklessly active, mind you.

 

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The wife of someone I friended on Facebook is into the "BeachBody" pyramid scheme.  She tags him on all her BeachBody posts, so I constantly see them.  If you are not familiar with it, just google "BeachBody Scam".

 

Yet here she is touting it as the greatest thing ever.

 

People are gullible.

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15 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

The wife of someone I friended on Facebook is into the "BeachBody" pyramid scheme.  She tags him on all her BeachBody posts, so I constantly see them.  If you are not familiar with it, just google "BeachBody Scam".

 

Yet here she is touting it as the greatest thing ever.

 

People are gullible.

Ain't that the truth.  The check is in the mail.  Boy, the mail from Mexico City is really slow these days.  I give it another week, that's what the "Big Guy" says... In the mean time, we should just pony up our own money.  We'll get paid back... We really will!

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22 hours ago, row_33 said:

usually, the definition is that Pyramids have no product at all

 

basically handing envelopes of cash around

 

 

The products are what make them legally legitimate. The one I spoke about earlier the product was a discount club. Nothing you can't get from AAA, AARP, or even a decent google serach. Yet a two year membership cost $800, and a lifetime was like $2000. 

 

There are a few MLM companies that are legitimate. The way to tell is whether they promote recruiting over the value of the product itself. 

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17 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

The products are what make them legally legitimate. The one I spoke about earlier the product was a discount club. Nothing you can't get from AAA, AARP, or even a decent google serach. Yet a two year membership cost $800, and a lifetime was like $2000. 

 

There are a few MLM companies that are legitimate. The way to tell is whether they promote recruiting over the value of the product itself. 

 

they are legit if they can withstand the scrutiny of some wonderful reps from tax agencies, or the approval of a body that overrides them...  :D

 

i have done expert witness accounting reports both prosecuting and defending pyramids/ponzis/whatever.... it's complicated

 

if a product is tangible or there is a real financial instrument it isn't a pyramid scheme officially, we can call it whatever we like otherwise.

 

we cannot save people from greed and stupidity, a judge declaring FRAUD is another standard... buyer beware...

 

 

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