LSHMEAB Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The difference is....Jackson cant take the hits like Josh does.... And yet Allen has missed a month with injury and LJ has not been hurt. Carson Wentz is a big, strapping dude who can "absorb" hits and he's been hurt 2 years in a row. It's folly to assume a guys size precludes him from injury. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: And yet Allen has missed a month with injury and LJ has not been hurt. Carson Wentz is a big, strapping dude who can "absorb" hits and he's been hurt 2 years in a row. It's folly to assume a guys size precludes him from injury. LJ took a shot this week that had him down on the ground....did you miss it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Josh Allen with a tan 21 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: How about a Marrone / Tyrod Taylor reunion? snicker snicker. They were never together 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The difference is....Jackson cant take the hits like Josh does.... Um, John! Maybe next time, let’s not talk about other QBs getting hurt. Bad mojo! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The difference is....Jackson cant take the hits like Josh does.... Jackson is too (relatively) frail to take his beatings. Even Josh will eventually crack too if he keeps taking (often late) hits, though I do like the way he’s learned to slide and go OB. What burns me is the way he doesn’t get the same level of protection IN the pocket and after the ball is realsed that somebody named....say.... Tom Brady does. They’d be bounced from the league for some of those things that don’t even get flags at times. And they way they target him, it seems like they’re fine to take the 15 yard penalty! It feels like part of the game plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Jackson is too (relatively) frail to take his beatings. Even Josh will eventually crack too if he keeps taking (often late) hits, though I do like the way he’s learned to slide and go OB. What burns me is the way he doesn’t get the same level of protection IN the pocket and after the ball is realsed that somebody named....say.... Tom Brady does. They’d be bounced from the league for some of those things that don’t even get flags at times. And they way they target him, it seems like they’re fine to take the 15 yard penalty! It feels like part of the game plan. It’s the Cam Newton treatment. Mobile qbs don’t get the same safety as pocket guys. I remember a season opener where Cam took multiple headshots with no penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s the Cam Newton treatment. Mobile qbs don’t get the same safety as pocket guys. I remember a season opener where Cam took multiple headshots with no penalties. I get most of the hits when they run, but when you’re in the pocket, you’re the same as Brady, or Brees, or anyone else! Maddening, I tell you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I’m interested in how Jackson plays against a better defence. I was not a fan of his in the predraft process. I thought he would have success against bottom 10 defences because they couldn’t handle his running ability but would really struggle is his running game was taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 With our cap space, can we do a Brock like deal. We will take the salaries of Flacco and Bortles for 2 seconds and a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: I get most of the hits when they run, but when you’re in the pocket, you’re the same as Brady, or Brees, or anyone else! Maddening, I tell you!!! Oh, I agree. It’s BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s the Cam Newton treatment. Mobile qbs don’t get the same safety as pocket guys. I remember a season opener where Cam took multiple headshots with no penalties. yeah but they are not supposed to be taking the hits IN the pocket.....these refs are horrible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, billspro said: I’m interested in how Jackson plays against a better defence. I was not a fan of his in the predraft process. I thought he would have success against bottom 10 defences because they couldn’t handle his running ability but would really struggle is his running game was taken away. It’s worth pointing out he has better passing numbers than Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Wow, there is a serious "changing of the guard" going on in the NFL right now. Very soon Eli, Brady, Brees, Rivers Stafford and Big Ben will be gone as well. In the “olden days” (you know, like maybe a decade ago?), a lot of these guys would be gone already. Blanda was the exception! Guys didn’ty play this long, but between training, nutrition, and the league dressing them in skirts, it’s a brave new world! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s worth pointing out he has better passing numbers than Allen. Pointing out that fact makes you a big time HATER! Josh Allen is a world class passer and Lamar Jackson is a scatback! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s worth pointing out he has better passing numbers than Allen. Yes but if you watch the games Allen is completing a lot more NFL type throws against very good defences. I believe Jackson has played all bottom 5 defences and is still struggling with passing with a much better supporting cast than Allen. I don’t know if any of our offensive players would start on the Ravens. Maybe McCoy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Wow, there is a serious "changing of the guard" going on in the NFL right now. Very soon Eli, Brady, Brees, Rivers Stafford and Big Ben will be gone as well. I'm getting old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: yeah but they are not supposed to be taking the hits IN the pocket.....these refs are horrible I think we all agree on THAT! Brady is the Coach K of the NFL. Whine enough, and you become the boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: Pointing out that fact makes you a big time HATER! Josh Allen is a world class passer and Lamar Jackson is a scatback! The stats are the stats. I don’t think anyone would want Jackson over Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Was never a Joe Flacco fan. Baltimore drafted a QB high for a reason defenses will figure out jackson just like every other new trend. flacco will lead another team to a conference championship. either he or carr will be a jag. question is what do the bucs and giants/redskins do? i don't see either flacco or carr changing confs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: defenses will figure out jackson just like every other new trend. flacco will lead another team to a conference championship. either he or carr will be a jag. question is what do the bucs and giants/redskins do? i don't see either flacco or carr changing confs. You do realize that our QB has really only succeeded running the ball, correct? Will he be "figured out?" This thread is starting to get weird. Edited December 12, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...could be a package deal with Harbaugh............ I think Harbaugh has seen more than enough of Joe to last his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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