Doc Brown Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I wonder what Trump's poll numbers would be with an even semi-honest press? Those "national polls" are interesting. The Fox poll was during the shutdown (Jan 20-22). The "top priority" for the wall grew 12%, but "quit/resign" grew 5% too. SMH. They also asked if people were better off than a year prior, most were, but the country was worse off?!? (well, maybe due to the shutdown?) 24% Thought it was a good thing to move away from capitalism and toward socialism!? WTF were these 1000 people surveyed!?!?! The ABC Poll was also done during the shutdown (Jan 8-11). About half the people surveyed think the border is a crisis... among the people who do not want a wall, 48% see it as a serious problem. What in the world do they expect to hold back people from crossing into the United States illegally? Fairy dust and unicorns!? This poll has the shift for a wall at +11 for independents from one year prior. 788 people surveyed, 31% D, 26% R, 39% I. The CBS poll (also during the shutdown (Jan 18-21)) is really screwy... The answers make little sense.... the shutdown isn't worth wall funding, but the Democrats should give wall funding in the budget!? Weighted respondents 277 R (22%) 349 D, (31%), 476 I (43%) The link to the Quinnipiac poll did not work. I wonder if there is a way to get a better sample size? 1K people with Rs under-represented isn't going to give a great representation of the American public's views, especially with slanted push or pull questions. I know internal polls generally do a better job (less of a push or a pull), but no one ever seems to get that data except the person paying. You're going to get that breakdown with all polls as their are more reigstered Democrats than Republicans. Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are the strongest polls and they have more Dems than Republicans. Every one of these pollsters were within a couple points of accurately predicting the generic ballot that coincided with the midterm votes. The 24% doesn't surprise me with the move from capitalism towards socialism with the economic inequality rhetoric we're seeing on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 National Emergency https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/purge-of-undocumented-workers-by-the-presidents-company-spreads-to-at-least-5-trump-golf-courses/2019/02/04/99454e4a-2690-11e9-ba08-caf4ff5a3433_story.html?utm_term=.1a905ea074e4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nanker Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 3:14 PM, Chef Jim said: Would they be equipped with "laser beams"? Dragons would be more effective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Specifically, b(7) "Construction of roads and fences and installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States." Not a lot of ambiguity there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Specifically, b(7) "Construction of roads and fences and installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States." Not a lot of ambiguity there. Would love to see the solution to construct roads & fences across every international boundary of the United States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: What changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Koko78 said: What changed? I'm guessing they saw the poll numbers after the SOTU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I'm guessing they saw the poll numbers after the SOTU. Going to be interesting to see how she spins her earlier stance of the wall being immoral. I'm guessing they're going to play the name game. It's not a wall, it's a barrier/fence/peaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Someone whispered in a group I follow that the DNC internal polls after the SOTU showed a much higher approval rating than the 70+% reported by abc, cbs, etc. Methinks that whisper must be correct if this is true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: so... if indeed Trump gets his wall funding, does then the shutdown become Nancy's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: SMH The Ds are screwed. The wall (barrier, whatever your preferred descriptive is) is being built with or without them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: SMH The Ds are screwed. The wall (barrier, whatever your preferred descriptive is) is being built with or without them. And not to be that guy, but I am that guy so I might as well: The DNC has known this whole time Trump can build the wall without Congress, and without an EO through the 10 USC 284 - which also could not be stopped with an injunction. Trump knows this as well and has for a long time. That makes me suspect 99% of this back and forth was cover for whatever they're really negotiating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And not to be that guy, but I am that guy so I might as well: The DNC has known this whole time Trump can build the wall without Congress, and without an EO through the 10 USC 284 - which also could not be stopped with an injunction. Trump knows this as well and has for a long time. That makes me suspect 99% of this back and forth was cover for whatever they're really negotiating. to my way of thinking, he either wants it for re-election fodder and/or he wants them to be his little B words. Edited February 7, 2019 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And not to be that guy, but I am that guy so I might as well: The DNC has known this whole time Trump can build the wall without Congress, and without an EO through the 10 USC 284 - which also could not be stopped with an injunction. Trump knows this as well and has for a long time. That makes me suspect 99% of this back and forth was cover for whatever they're really negotiating. I don't think it's even that nefarious. Trump just trolled them in to looking weak on borders security and admitting they prioritize illegal aliens over citizens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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