Iron Maiden Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 DA is not going to look good IMO.....I get the " hopefully, he can hold down the fort " thinking, but nothing really in his past indicates that he'll bring a spark to our offense...and, it's not like our awful Oline is suddenly going to play like the 90's Cowboys.....We're @Indy , hosting NE and then the Bears....whatever record you thought we'd have after those 3 games, stick with it...Derek Anderson doesn't change anything..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 As much as I wouldn’t like it for Allen, you would have to leave Anderson in there. Bills could then say: 1. We’re winning now 2. Allen is developing by watching a veteran and that was the original plan 3. It would take the Peterman stink off Beane/McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 10 hours ago, SoTier said: Seriously dude, after the Bills play the Colts, they face NE, Chicago, the Jets, and Jacksonville. Even if you allow them a fighting chance against the Jets (I wouldn't at this point but it's the most likely), Derek Anderson is never going to develop a "hot hand" against the Pats, the Bears, and the Jags. Not happening. It's not about the QB we just need one to make a few plays and not screw up. This D is better than last year and 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 2:46 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...sounds like "Happy Hour" started WAAAAAAAAAY too early bud............ And this time it wasn't me that started drinking before the crows start making noise. 18 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: It's not about the QB we just need one to make a few plays and not screw up. This D is better than last year and 2014. We do make plays and then either Miller or duckass get flagged for doing something stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:30 PM, Mike147 said: Derek Anderson has never proven to be an NFL quality starting quarterback in his career to date. He had one decent(ish) year but even that wasn't particularly great considering the stat line he posted. If the guy steps in and wins a few games, good on him, but all that proves is that all we need is a quarterback that can move the chains and get the offense going. All it shows is that the front office potentially made the wrong decision in getting rid of Tyrod Taylor because despite his shortcomings we did make it to the play offs with his style of play combined with good defense. Will sitting on the bench teach Josh Allen to be an accurate quarterback? I doubt it. We drafted a mid-50s PCT guy and that is going to be difficult for him to improve on in the NFL. We might have to accept a similar PCT to someone like Cam Newton (generally sub-60), but you can win with that as Cam Newton has shown, Allen just needs to make use of his arm talent and athletic ability. Sitting Allen isn't going to help significantly, what will is being out there with a better supporting cast and learning the ropes first hand. At the end of the day being accurate is great but as a friend highlighted to me the other day (he's a Broncos fan), John Elway only completed three seasons with a pass completion above 60 in his career, and that guy is in the hall of fame and won two out of five Super Bowl appearances. Granted different era but with the right supporting cast we can have success with Allen even though he's unlikely to become one of the more accurate quarterbacks in the league. John Elway is absolutely NOT any kind of "proof" that Allen can be an effective NFL QB despite his inaccuracy. Elway was drafted 35 years ago. If he had been drafted 30 years later (2013 rather than 1983), you can bet your last $ that his completion percentage would have been significantly higher (consistently in the 60s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Wait, did we change the whole WR staff or Just swap Foster for Phillips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I’ll be a really happy Bills fan. But I won’t even have a hint of a feeling like “we finally found our starter.” Allen is the future- if he’s healthy, he should play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike147 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, SoTier said: John Elway is absolutely NOT any kind of "proof" that Allen can be an effective NFL QB despite his inaccuracy. Elway was drafted 35 years ago. If he had been drafted 30 years later (2013 rather than 1983), you can bet your last $ that his completion percentage would have been significantly higher (consistently in the 60s). First, I’m not an advocate of drafting inaccurate quarterbacks. I’d rather take an accurate quarterback with good decision making skills and pocket awareness with a decent arm over a prospect with a cannon of an arm with questionable accuracy, decision making and pocket awareness. However, our front office drafted the guy with the big arm and question marks so we as fans have to accept that and deal with it until the experiment fails. Second, I’m not saying that because Elway was sub 60 that he wouldn’t have been more accurate in the modern era. Another QB with a sub 60 pct was Dan Marino, now imagine what stats he could post in the modern era. The difference in the game obviously would boost their stats because they had to deal with more physicality and less offensive bias than current era quarterbacks deal with. However, I do feel the comparison still has some merit because a sub-60 guy in Carolina has been successful. Like I said, if we can utilise Josh’s arm strength and dual threat ability - ie like Carolina do with Cam - then Josh can be success if he’s completing sub-60. Another point is it all depends on what throws a quarterback is attempting. Eli Manning is currently completing 68.7 percent of his pass attempts. He has a qb rating over 90. All sounds great until you watch the guy check down the majority of his pass attempts and not take as many shots down the field. Eli is playing it very safe this season and their passing game is hurting because of it. Granted his oline isn’t helping him a great deal but he’s not helping his offense by throwing near lateral passes for next to no gain. Alex Smith is another checkdown Charlie, and Tyrod was at times with us. It’s great to see their pct stat, but if you aren’t taking more shots downfield and airing it out, and instead playing it safe, give me the quarterback that’s willing to bet on their arm and make plays over the checkdown guys. Essentially I don’t expect Josh to be a regular 60 plus pct guy, but he can be an effective quarterback in this era with a sub 60 pct as long as he makes use of his athleticism, moves the chains, and is successful taking those shots with his elite arm strength and talent. Accuracy is great, but unless you’re doing what Brees and Rodgers do rather Eli does, that high pct can sometimes be wasted because the qb is being overly conservative. I don’t see Josh being that type of quarterback and he’ll either thrive or fail because of that gunslinger mentality. Elway took his shots, so did Marino and a Kelly off what I’ve read and seen (I’m not old enough to have watched them live). Ok different era, but in today’s offensive friendly nfl you can still have success with questionable accuracy because the rules are in the offenses favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Right now, I'm hoping like heck he doesn't get himself injured behind this O-line tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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