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1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Ha I am pumped too! I only know because I looked yesterday thinking they were playing today as well

Houston is a great offensive rebounding squad, but they don't have the greatest size

 

We need our Length to bother them

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Houston is a great offensive rebounding squad, but they don't have the greatest size

 

We need our Length to bother them

 

I doubt they have played against a zone much this year, and then add on how much differently we play ours.

 

If we slow down the pace we can give them fits, just need to make a few threes to keep our confidence up

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1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

I doubt they have played against a zone much this year, and then add on how much differently we play ours.

 

If we slow down the pace we can give them fits, just need to make a few threes to keep our confidence up

The one person that scares me is shooting guard Quinton Grimes... Five star transfer from Kansas and he's a phenomenal scorer 

 

Can't let him heat up behind the arc because he can win a game by himself

 

 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

The one person that scares me is shooting guard Quinton Grimes... Five star transfer from Kansas and he's a phenomenal scorer 

 

Can't let him heat up behind the arc because he can win a game by himself

 

 

Yeah like that kid from wvu did, we have some time to prepare and boeheim is pretty good at focusing on one guy. Our guards should be aware that as soon as he catches it to get in his face and contest

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1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said:

Yeah like that kid from wvu did, we have some time to prepare and boeheim is pretty good at focusing on one guy. Our guards should be aware that as soon as he catches it to get in his face and contest

Absolutely. You don't win a thousand games for no reason 

 

Tomorrow is going to be Quincy's game to eat on the boards... He's probably going to be the most physical person in the game..

 

And boeheim has been saying he's on the verge of breaking out

 

 

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4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Absolutely. You don't win a thousand games for no reason 

 

Tomorrow is going to be Quincy's game to eat on the boards... He's probably going to be the most physical person in the game..

 

And boeheim has been saying he's on the verge of breaking out

 

 


Agreed re Quincy. All I am reading is how Houston’s “best offense is a missed shot.”  Quincy is going to have to kill it down low for us to win this game. Everyone really needs to crash the boards. 
 

I am really hoping Griffin has a breakout performance. He’s due. 

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13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

If we lose I put it all on Boeheim taking Edwards out.

 

What the hell is Boeheim thinking not just keeping Edwards in permanently for this game after the impact he had on the 1st half on D?????

 

I say this as the 1st half ends. I hope I can eat crow after a great 2nd half.


We lost all aggression with taking him out, no logical reason to do so, esp to be putting dolezaj with two fouls back in the middle

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16 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Refs reeeeeeeeeeeeally giving it a good try for the Cuse.

Just called a foul on Houston guy for getting shoved in the back.  Pathetic.


Houston defenders foul every time on every play. They hand check and body check and play ultra aggressively and out of control on the glass. That’s why they are so good. But that’s also why at the end of their games, every guy on their team has like 4 fouls. 

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There is absolutely no pinning this game on the refs.

 

Syracuse will lose this game because of the one thing that's irritated me in my decades as a Syracuse fan:

 

Jim Boeheim and his personnel choices.

 

This game was the Orange's for the taking the moment Edwards stepped into the game in the first half and Syracuse went on a 15-3 run.

 

Then Boeheim took him out and Houston went on a 15-3 run.

 

Edwards was the difference today and it SERIOUSLY pisses me off that we're under 4 minutes and for some STUPID reason he's still not in the game.

 

This is a "screw you Boeheim!!!" moment for me.

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12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

There is absolutely no pinning this game on the refs.

 

Syracuse will lose this game because of the one thing that's irritated me in my decades as a Syracuse fan:

 

Jim Boeheim and his personnel choices.

 

This game was the Orange's for the taking the moment Edwards stepped into the game in the first half and Syracuse went on a 15-3 run.

 

Then Boeheim took him out and Houston went on a 15-3 run.

 

Edwards was the difference today and it SERIOUSLY pisses me off that we're under 4 minutes and for some STUPID reason he's still not in the game.

 

This is a "screw you Boeheim!!!" moment for me.

Edwards plays good for spurts but he really does struggle to rebound and hold the ball.. like boeheim says he loses to many balls he has his hands on 

 

And he did today too..

 

He lost alot of balls that won't show up in the box score..but he will be good next year

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11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

There is absolutely no pinning this game on the refs.

 

Syracuse will lose this game because of the one thing that's irritated me in my decades as a Syracuse fan:

 

Jim Boeheim and his personnel choices.

 

This game was the Orange's for the taking the moment Edwards stepped into the game in the first half and Syracuse went on a 15-3 run.

 

Then Boeheim took him out and Houston went on a 15-3 run.

 

Edwards was the difference today and it SERIOUSLY pisses me off that we're under 4 minutes and for some STUPID reason he's still not in the game.

 

This is a "screw you Boeheim!!!" moment for me.


i would be curious to hear what he says in his presser about it, though the beat reporters don’t usually push him much.

 

As best as I can tell, it was either he was worried about Edwards’ conditioning or worried about Edwards picking up fouls, and so felt he had to pace and protect him. I suspect it was more of the latter, as Edwards does have the tendency to pick up fouls in spades. 
 

I do think that really was the game. I also think that Our offense was just poor. It was a blood bath out there, and so everything was contested or fouled. 

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Edwards plays good for spurts but he really does struggle to rebound and hold the ball.. like boeheim says he loses to many balls he has his hands on 

 

And he did today too..

 

He lost alot of balls that won't show up in the box score..but he will be good next year


lot to be excited about for next year about Edwards, and Braswell. Is Sidibe coming back too? The zone will be a lot more effective with those three guys in the rotation. 

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1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


i would be curious to hear what he says in his presser about it, though the beat reporters don’t usually push him much.

 

As best as I can tell, it was either he was worried about Edwards’ conditioning or worried about Edwards picking up fouls, and so felt he had to pace and protect him. I suspect it was more of the latter, as Edwards does have the tendency to pick up fouls in spades. 
 

I do think that really was the game. I also think that Our offense was just poor. It was a blood bath out there, and so everything was contested or fouled. 

We just got out muscled , it is what it is .. edwards will be really good when he adds 15 pounds

 

edwards struggles with physicality.. he really does.. he has moments but he fouls alot and doesn't hold on to the ball consistently

 

 

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


i would be curious to hear what he says in his presser about it, though the beat reporters don’t usually push him much.

 

As best as I can tell, it was either he was worried about Edwards’ conditioning or worried about Edwards picking up fouls, and so felt he had to pace and protect him. I suspect it was more of the latter, as Edwards does have the tendency to pick up fouls in spades. 
 

I do think that really was the game. I also think that Our offense was just poor. It was a blood bath out there, and so everything was contested or fouled. 


lot to be excited about for next year about Edwards, and Braswell. Is Sidibe coming back too? The zone will be a lot more effective with those three guys in the rotation. 

If sidibes knees are healthy he will return.. it's a medical call

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8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

We just got out muscled , it is what it is .. edwards will be really good when he adds 15 pounds

 

edwards struggles with physicality.. he really does.. he has moments but he fouls alot and doesn't hold on to the ball consistently

 

 

If sidibes knees are healthy he will return.. it's a medical call


what’s neat about Edwards is he has some of the finesse parts of his game. I know JB almost died when he took that little transition pull-up today, but he can make that. I’d love to see him

put on weight and get more PT. I think he could be a very well-rounder center. Make some 10-footers; some baby hooks; develop a little post-up game. You can tell the raw talent is there. 

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1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


what’s neat about Edwards is he has some of the finesse parts of his game. I know JB almost died when he took that little transition pull-up today, but he can make that. I’d love to see him

put on weight and get more PT. I think he could be a very well-rounder center. Make some 10-footers; some baby hooks; develop a little post-up game. You can tell the raw talent is there. 

Definitely. He has that finesse game but it's not fully there yet 

 

And when he's getting 25 minutes a night and he's in rhythm that might be a good shot attempt.. in that fast break moment Edwards did make a bad decision.. but you live and learn

 

this whole season every time he gets in he always takes a 15 ft jumper lol it's definitely in his repertoire he just needs to get it to game speed

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I feel like edwards fouls when he isn’t moving his feet on defense. We lost this game because we couldn’t shoot for *****. I’d love for dolezaj to come back and we run Edwards guerrier and dolezaj on the back line with boeheim girard and Richmond on rotation. If griffin gets his head out of his ass to then he can play up top or back corner too

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20 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

I feel like edwards fouls when he isn’t moving his feet on defense. We lost this game because we couldn’t shoot for *****. I’d love for dolezaj to come back and we run Edwards guerrier and dolezaj on the back line with boeheim girard and Richmond on rotation. If griffin gets his head out of his ass to then he can play up top or back corner too


I’d rather see Newton get minutes than Griffin. I think Griffin is gone. 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Edwards plays good for spurts but he really does struggle to rebound and hold the ball.. like boeheim says he loses to many balls he has his hands on 

 

And he did today too..

 

He lost alot of balls that won't show up in the box score..but he will be good next year

 

I think you're trying way too hard here.

 

If you watched the game you really can't deny the impact Edwards had on the game.

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4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I think you're trying way too hard here.

 

If you watched the game you really can't deny the impact Edwards had on the game.

I think Edward was solid, but like Jim has been saying all year.. he does struggle with physicality and I see it

 

Yeah he had six rebounds but it easily could have been 11 + , And hes a little quick to foul 

 

Once he starts holding on to the ball consistently I think he will be really good.. like Jim says he's just not fully there

 

 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

We just got out muscled , it is what it is .. edwards will be really good when he adds 15 pounds

 

edwards struggles with physicality.. he really does.. he has moments but he fouls alot and doesn't hold on to the ball consistently

 

 

Edwards was the most physical guy on the floor tonight, yet Boeheim took him off in favor of the twig Dolezjai at Center.

 

On this you are wrong.

 

Edwards was pretty clearly the difference in the game.

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13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Edwards was the most physical guy on the floor tonight, yet Boeheim took him off in favor of the twig Dolezjai at Center.

 

On this you are wrong.

 

Edwards was pretty clearly the difference in the game.

We can agree to disagree. Our whole team had problems with the physicality

 

But Dolezaj has been our most important player the whole season. We run the offense through him at the top of the key

 

And I'm not trying to say Jesse had a bad game. I'm just saying I don't think him getting 10 more minutes would have made us win the game.. you win as a team and lose as a team

 

And he has a fouling problem which keeps him off the court for extended periods..

 

Next year, he should be a pretty nice player. He has nice offensive potential

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

We can agree to disagree. Edwards had problems with the physicality today.. his six rebounds easily could have been 11 plus, if he held on to the ball 

 

How many rebounds or turnovers did he cause that weren't attributed to him in the stat sheet?

 

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Our whole team had problems with the physicality.

 

Agreed. But every time Edwards was on the court the team was different.

 

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Jesse loses a lot of balls do you not see that? Yes he has great potential but like Jim says he's just not there yet

 

Did he? How many balls did he lose tonight? Next... how many balls did Girard, Griffin, Buddy, Dolezjai, Richmond, and Guerrier lose tonight?

 

Jim Boeheim is a fantastic coach... but unfortunately I don't see him getting a 2nd Championship that would put him in Elite conversation ala Coach K or Roy Williams.

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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

How many rebounds or turnovers did he cause that weren't attributed to him in the stat sheet?

 

 

Agreed. But every time Edwards was on the court the team was different.

 

 

Did he? How many balls did he lose tonight? Next... how many balls did Girard, Griffin, Buddy, Dolezjai, Richmond, and Guerrier lose tonight?

 

Jim Boeheim is a fantastic coach... but unfortunately I don't see him getting a 2nd Championship that would put him in Elite conversation ala Coach K or Roy Williams.

I can't disagree with you. Edwards was actually very active in the middle of the zone today

 

He was deflecting a lot of balls

 

He just has a hard time right now holding rebounds in his hands. 

 

And you're right guerrier lost some that were maddening, same with Buddy and Joe 

 

You are right

 

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1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


what’s neat about Edwards is he has some of the finesse parts of his game. I know JB almost died when he took that little transition pull-up today, but he can make that. I’d love to see him

put on weight and get more PT. I think he could be a very well-rounder center. Make some 10-footers; some baby hooks; develop a little post-up game. You can tell the raw talent is there. 

 

That was a good shot. It's a shot he needs to take and make.

 

The problem is he doesn't get the reps so it looks like an awful shot despite the fact that he was wide open.

 

I'm sorry... we saw more awful shots tonight than that taken by every other Syracuse player not named Edwards.

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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

That was a good shot. It's a shot he needs to take and make.

 

The problem is he doesn't get the reps so it looks like an awful shot despite the fact that he was wide open.

 

I'm sorry... we saw more awful shots tonight than that taken by every other Syracuse player not named Edwards.

I think it's a good shot when Jesse is getting a lot of playing time and those reps your talking about 

 

He definitely has that in his repertoire, he just needs game time

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I can't disagree with you. Edwards was actually very active in the middle of the zone today

 

He was deflecting a lot of balls

 

He just has a hard time right now holding rebounds in his hands. 

 

And you're right guerrier lost some that were maddening, same with Buddy and Joe 

 

You are right

 

 

I'm sorry I'm just so friggin angry at Boeheim right now. Maybe I'm oversimplifying but what was the point differential with vs without Edwards?

 

Having him on the court on D made a WORLD of difference!!! Isn't that the entire reason Sidibe saw so much playing time over his career??? He sure as hell wasn't a scorer.

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4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I'm sorry I'm just so friggin angry at Boeheim right now. Maybe I'm oversimplifying but what was the point differential with vs without Edwards?

 

Having him on the court on D made a WORLD of difference!!! Isn't that the entire reason Sidibe saw so much playing time over his career??? He sure as hell wasn't a scorer.

Jesse Edwards finished today at a plus 10 which validates your point that he was active on defense 

 

When asked why he took him out with 2 minutes left in the half, which Houston went on a 10-0 run... Boeheim said jesse was tired

 

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42 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Jesse Edwards finished today at a plus 10 which validates your point that he was active on defense 

 

When asked why he took him out with 2 minutes left in the half, which Houston went on a 10-0 run... Boeheim said jesse was tired

 

 

What a bullchit copout.

 

This has always been my issue with Boeheim: he pulls his younger players incredibly early and keeps his older players in despite often head scratching mistakes.

 

There's this ridiculous seniority thing he has going his entire career for pretty much everyone other than 'Melo who basically forced his hand because of how great he was.

 

This is why Boeheim is stuck where he is. He underutilizes his great players. Just ask Dion Waiters.

 

Even at the weight he was this year Edwards should have gotten a lot more PT.

 

And honestly now I'm actually praying Sidibe doesn't come back because you can darn well guarantee Sidibe will start over Edwards even though he probably shouldn't.

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@transplantbillsfan hang in there buddy. We're all feeling rough rn

 

From where we were in February, this team has overachieved, and gave us a fun year 

 

Jim will reload

7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

What a bullchit copout.

 

This has always been my issue with Boeheim: he pulls his younger players incredibly early and keeps his older players in despite often head scratching mistakes.

 

There's this ridiculous seniority thing he has going his entire career for pretty much everyone other than 'Melo who basically forced his hand because of how great he was.

 

This is why Boeheim is stuck where he is. He underutilizes his great players. Just ask Dion Waiters.

 

Even at the weight he was this year Edwards should have gotten a lot more PT.

 

And honestly now I'm actually praying Sidibe doesn't come back because you can darn well guarantee Sidibe will start over Edwards even though he probably shouldn't.

To be fair boeheim always uses his sixth Man great and waiters was always on the court late over Jr Brandon triche.. even played more minutes on the year off the bench

 

But I hear you Jim , always has a short bench and prefers guys with experience. .. even nba star Jerami Grant came off the bench his 2 years

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

@transplantbillsfan hang in there buddy. We're all feeling rough rn

 

From where we were in February, this team has overachieved, and gave us a fun year 

 

Jim will reload

 

I get it. And I won't pay much attention to the regular season until the last few games and Syracuse will make another "surprising" NCAA run but come up short of the ultimate goal of a championship.

 

It's become the norm.

 

And next year I do expect the regular season team to be better... but who the heck cares about the Syracuse regular season anymore???

 

Win a darn Championship Boeheim!!!

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I get it. And I won't pay much attention to the regular season until the last few games and Syracuse will make another "surprising" NCAA run but come up short of the ultimate goal of a championship.

 

It's become the norm.

 

And next year I do expect the regular season team to be better... but who the heck cares about the Syracuse regular season anymore???

 

Win a darn Championship Boeheim!!!

If Jesse Edwards continues to develop , we have all the pieces to win a national championship

 

We are a dominant big man away. We have size, athleticism, shooting ability, playmaking, and a five-star scorer coming in

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7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I'm sorry I'm just so friggin angry at Boeheim right now. Maybe I'm oversimplifying but what was the point differential with vs without Edwards?

 

Having him on the court on D made a WORLD of difference!!! Isn't that the entire reason Sidibe saw so much playing time over his career??? He sure as hell wasn't a scorer.


I was surprised with JB’s presser answer re Edwards being “tired.” I think he could have given him a quick breather and used his own TO’s and the TV TO’s, and Edwards may have only needed to go out for like 3-4

total game minutes. 


Edwards was a game changer on defense. Probably his best game. 
 

That said, our O was stymied all night anyway. We made 13 shots! We needed someone to hit some outside shots— JG started to at the end, but it was too late. 

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