Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, PeterDude said: I listened to a lot of interviews after the game. I found it very interesting that a few of the Bills' defensive players mentioning that Allen should never do that again. Being defensive players, I'm kind of wondering if that type of move is seen as a slight to the defender, and if tried again it means there goes the man parts, personal foul penalty be damned. I'm hoping some of our guys who played will weigh in here, but I think you got it exactly. It is seen as disrespect of the defender from a QB that has extra protection from defenders on every play. It's different for an RB or TE or WR who puts their body out there on the line every play just like the defenders do. Several announcers who played defense mentioned Barr gonna get worked over in the Film room today. It's bad enough that he's also the defender Allen easily outran for his 15 yd TD dive. I think being defenders, our guys also know all the tricks of the trade and exactly how severe the potential injuries Allen is courting by doing that. The defender could get a PF or even ejected, Big Help that would be to us if Allen is out for the season or even 3 games. Hopefully they'll have a man-to-man with Allen about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice bowl 67 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: You going into forums and sucking up Which forum? Your making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, bobblehead said: Well I’m hoping they were keeping McCoy back for this. This is the game to go heavy run. I don’t want to see Allen have big passing numbers this week I think Allen even knows his track career is over lol I don't mind the TD run, but hurdling was needed against Minn at that point. Likely never again unless a huge game. Although I want to see Allen throw as much, but have some WR's and Clay make catches that receivers on other teams make for their QB's. 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm hoping some of our guys who played will way in here, but I think you got it exactly. It is seen as disrespect of the defender from a QB that has extra protection from defenders on every play. Several announcers who played defense mentioned Barr gonna get worked over in the Film room today. It's bad enough that he's also the defender Allen easily outran for his 15 yd TD dive. This is a clear message to Barr. Sign with the Bills in the off-season or have Allen embarrass you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, bobblehead said: Well I’m hoping they were keeping McCoy back for this. This is the game to go heavy run. I don’t want to see Allen have big passing numbers this week I think Allen even knows his track career is over lol Pettine is their DC so I was thinking the same thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm hoping some of our guys who played will way in here, but I think you got it exactly. It is seen as disrespect of the defender from a QB that has extra protection from defenders on every play. Several announcers who played defense mentioned Barr gonna get worked over in the Film room today. It's bad enough that he's also the defender Allen easily outran for his 15 yd TD dive. I even cringe a bit when I see a QB try to make a move on the sidelines to get a few more inches. I can see how it would feel almost like taunting to the defender due to all the QB protections from the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ice bowl 67 said: ? What are you talking about A few guys, forget who, saying that you go to every teams message boards and just repeating exactly what you say to us over here. I dunno. I don’t care either way. Good luck on Sunday. Jerry’s coming to getcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice bowl 67 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, NewEra said: A few guys, forget who, saying that you go to every teams message boards and just repeating exactly what you say to us over here. I dunno. I don’t care either way. Good luck on Sunday. Jerry’s coming to getcha Nope not me. Most teams I've never been to their message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: You going into forums and sucking up 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: A few guys, forget who, saying that you go to every teams message boards and just repeating exactly what you say to us over here. I dunno. I don’t care either way. Good luck on Sunday. Jerry’s coming to getcha I do care either way. Even if true, there's nothing against a fan to go to multiple message boards of various teams then coming here. Play nice or be seated. Consider that locked thread as the no-action warning here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I can't blame the defenders for being salty. I agree, the game table is being slanted away from their side, it's not fair. Also, Clay Matthews is being victimized by this league, though I hope next week he's not even given the opportunity, don't need to see him taking it out on Allen. Right now, defenders must feel like public enemy #1 in the eyes of the NFL, not a good scenario. I think a lot because of the CTE stuff, which iirc it has been shown that there is no correlation between concussions and CTE, it's more of the accumulation of micro hits to the head during all aspects of the game as opposed to the big hits. Edited September 24, 2018 by PeterDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, PeterDude said: I agree, the game table is being slanted away from their side, it's not fair. Also, Clay Matthews is being victimized by this league, though I hope next week he's not even given the opportunity, don't need to see him taking it out on Allen. Right now, defenders must feel like public enemy #1 in the eyes of the NFL, not a good scenario. I think a lot because of the CTE stuff, which I iirc it has been shown that there is no correlation between concussions and CTE, it's more of the accumulation micro hits to the head during all aspects of the game as opposed to the big hits. Well, enough concussions can knock a guy out of the game for good - Kolb, Troy Aikman, Steve Young off the top of my head. So in a QB-starved league it's understandable that the league is trying to protect players from concussions with or without a CTE connection. But it's just gone a step too far. If they want a non-contact league, bring out the flag belts. You're darn straight, Matthews has legit beefs. He is not and has never been Suh with his kicking and stomping after the whistle, he's a (relatively) clean player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Ice bowl 67 said: Im not excited at all now for this game after us getting trounced and the Bills blowing out the Vikes. If nothing else it made things a bit more interesting. I fly in on Saturday and can't wait for the fun to begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I don't mind the TD run, but hurdling was needed against Minn at that point. Likely never again unless a huge game. Although I want to see Allen throw as much, but have some WR's and Clay make catches that receivers on other teams make for their QB's. This is a clear message to Barr. Sign with the Bills in the off-season or have Allen embarrass you! I hope eventually Benjamin and Clay get with the process and do whatever they need to start hauling those in. Romo is a players' announcer and he was calling them out (indirectly, but clearly: "that was a perfect throw from Allen" "that was a a perfectly placed ball") I agree, hopefully Allen was trying to pull out all the stops to send a message to his teammates: "I will put everything out there, totally put myself out on the line to help this team win. Are you with me, or not?" Haha on Barr! As a defender, I'm sure it's more fun to watch your QB do that stuff from the sideline than to watch those plays in the Defense film room on Monday. 55 minutes ago, Gugny said: I hope Allen works on his flopping. He needs to go down every time Matthews gets near him. Easy 15 yards! The thing is, as he's shown, Allen does know how to slide. Doesn't look like he's happy about it, but as one would expect from a guy who played baseball, he's competent at the move. 25 minutes ago, NewEra said: Good luck on Sunday. Jerry’s coming to getcha I hope Trent Murphy's ankle injury is a ding and he's full go. That move from behind he laid on Cousins was sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The thing is, as he's shown, he does know how to slide. Doesn't look like he's happy about it, but as one would expect from a guy who played baseball, he's competent at the move. Agreed, although he's sliding head first a little too much for my liking. Self-preservation is a big part of QB longevity. I love his fire, but he's got to be smart (which he clearly knows, based on his post-game interview yesterday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I hope eventually Benjamin and Clay get with the process and do whatever they need to start hauling those in. Romo is a players' announcer and he was calling them out (indirectly, but clearly: "that was a perfect throw from Allen" "that was a a perfectly placed ball") I agree, hopefully Allen was trying to pull out all the stops to send a message to his teammates: "I will put everything out there, totally put myself out on the line to help this team win. Are you with me, or not?" Haha on Barr! As a defender, I'm sure it's more fun to watch your QB do that stuff from the sideline than to watch those plays in the Defense film room on Monday. I really enjoyed listening to Romo yesterday. He speculates on the plays they should call, etc. and very often seems to get it right. He is also very realistic in his praise and negativity. I agree regarding Allen. That was an instinctive play by someone trying to will his team to victory. His effort will pay off by getting other players to buy in and increase their effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice bowl 67 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 They need to get rid of this QB protection rule where you can't put all your weight on the QB. Terrible rule and Rodgers getting hurt made it this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Finish Rogers off !! "You have a problem with that?" "No, sensei" "No mercy" Edited September 24, 2018 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice bowl 67 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, eball said: So Ice, tell me -- what's the issue (or issues) up there? The Pack are legitimately 2 lucky plays away from being 0-3. Is it Aaron's injury? What's going on? Terrible defense mostly and we always start off slow year after year. I don't know why but we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ice bowl 67 said: They need to get rid of this QB protection rule where you can't put all your weight on the QB. Terrible rule and Rodgers getting hurt made it this way. I understand what they're trying to do but it's poorly written and being enforced in a way that makes normal football defense impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I hope eventually Benjamin and Clay get with the process and do whatever they need to start hauling those in. Romo is a players' announcer and he was calling them out (indirectly, but clearly: "that was a perfect throw from Allen" "that was a a perfectly placed ball") I agree, hopefully Allen was trying to pull out all the stops to send a message to his teammates: "I will put everything out there, totally put myself out on the line to help this team win. Are you with me, or not?" Haha on Barr! As a defender, I'm sure it's more fun to watch your QB do that stuff from the sideline than to watch those plays in the Defense film room on Monday. The thing is, as he's shown, Allen does know how to slide. Doesn't look like he's happy about it, but as one would expect from a guy who played baseball, he's competent at the move. I hope Trent Murphy's ankle injury is a ding and he's full go. That move from behind he laid on Cousins was sick. Yes it was. I didn’t even realize he was hurt. ? Jerry is the tone setter though.....15 pressures...woooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Ice bowl 67 said: They need to get rid of this QB protection rule where you can't put all your weight on the QB. Terrible rule and Rodgers getting hurt made it this way. Adam Schefter Retweeted Cameron Wolfe @CameronWolfe · 22m Dolphins DL William Hayes tore his ACL, he’s out for the season. Big loss. It happened when he tried not to put his body weight on Derek Carr while sacking him and got his foot caught in the ground. This was tweeted earlier. Could be something to watch out for as the big bodies arent made to twist mid air to avoid contact on the ground. Edited September 24, 2018 by No Place To Hyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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