BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: does that work? Also are they outside the strike zone when they actually hit the catcher's glove and fall out? Did I miss the part where the WRs started playing more poorly after Allen came in? The EXACT SAME THING happened in the first half, arguably worse, but that's just because the QB was bad. No one caught a thing, and Benjamin was jogging short-arming passes the whole game. The biggest difference was that the first half was against a starting unit trying to win, but by the fourth quarter it was a glorified 5th preseason game. It's so bizarre to me that the first half blame is on the QB, but the second half is on the WRs when the WRs didn't change, and their play didn't decrease. They were awful start to finish. If that tipped pass to Logan Thomas goes for a pick that's on him, but the slant route right to Benjamin who got outworked is just another pick for a QB we hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The Foster pass could have been better but it hit his hands. Watch some other games. Receivers make tougher catches than that in any other game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The Foster throw hit the Raven in the back...hard to catch that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Did I miss the part where the WRs started playing more poorly after Allen came in? The EXACT SAME THING happened in the first half, arguably worse, but that's just because the QB was bad. No one caught a thing, and Benjamin was jogging short-arming passes the whole game. The biggest difference was that the first half was against a starting unit trying to win, but by the fourth quarter it was a glorified 5th preseason game. It's so bizarre to me that the first half blame is on the QB, but the second half is on the WRs when the WRs didn't change, and their play didn't decrease. They were awful start to finish. If that tipped pass to Logan Thomas goes for a pick that's on him, but the slant route right to Benjamin who got outworked is just another pick for a QB we hate. That doesn't work Josh Allen got first downs Peterman did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Drops all over the place. I am not sure how they'll draft an entire wideout corps next year, but they will need to. Who will be available in FA? We can draft one and fill the rest with our $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: That doesn't work Josh Allen got first downs Peterman did not. against 3rd stringers. For whatever reason they also refused to run the ball in the first half. i think McCoy had 2 carries for -1 yards. Edited September 9, 2018 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) So much of playing QB well is the repetition, the timing subtleties...they blew it. How much better would Allen be if he had gotten the reps in training camp? Gotten the reps this week? Even a play like the non-handoff to McCoy might have been different if he had run it a bunch in practice. 7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Did I miss the part where the WRs started playing more poorly after Allen came in? The EXACT SAME THING happened in the first half, arguably worse, but that's just because the QB was bad... hate. Troll. You're blocked. Edited September 9, 2018 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Thats not what I said. And why are you more concerned about the Alabama WR and not the fact that Benjamin dropped a TD pass? Benjamin has been awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Who will be available in FA? We can draft one and fill the rest with our $$$ Not a lot of help in free agency. The giant sloth we currently have on our team may be the best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, BullBuchanan said: against 3rd stringers. So what are you saying that Allen did bad or that it doesn't count you really need to pick one and stick with it. Seriously what is your argument here that Allen didn't do enough? That Peterman despite doing essentially absolutely nothing with a 0 for his QB rating should still start? What are you trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, OJ Tom said: So much of playing QB well is the repetition, the timing subtleties...they blew it. How much better would Allen be if he had gotten the reps in training camp? Gotten the reps this week? Even a play like the non-handoff to McCoy might have been different if he had run it a bunch in practice. You're blocked. It's hard listening to things outside your echo chamber, I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, mabden said: I can see next years draft going like this: 1)WR 2)OL 3)WR 4)OL 5)WR 5)OL 6)WR 7)OL Its really kind of amazing how bad the line is. You need a LG, C, RG, and RT. At least at Wr you have potential. Line is a complete and utter mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 If only Allen could throw a more accurate ball. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Will be hard to draft an entire wideout corps and entire offensive line! Especially when this FO loves trading all their picks away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: If only Allen could throw a more accurate ball. Makes me hear the banana peel slipping sound effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: The biggest difference was... ...the multiple interceptable passes, 2 of which were actually intercepted. And the ability to throw downfield. And the ability to avoid the pass rush. What game did you watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: So what are you saying that Allen did bad or that it doesn't count you really need to pick one and stick with it. Seriously what is your argument here that Allen didn't do enough? That Peterman despite doing essentially absolutely nothing with a 0 for his QB rating should still start? What are you trying to say? What I'm trying to say is that there's a really strange double standard going on here where the same facts are being used to trash one player and praise another who had pretty similar results. They both played poorly, but their WRs were worse than both of them, the O-line was awful, they couldn't and didn't run and the defense was a sieve. The entire team around both QBs was a constant. They performed the same start to finish. The QBs were the only variable on the Bills side and neither had any success. What I'm also saying is the minute edge that Allen had in production should be considered with respect that the Ravens had their defensive stars on the sidelines. I'm super confused how one guy was trash and the other "must absolutely start" based off the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, BullBuchanan said: What I'm trying to say is that there's a really strange double standard going on here where the same facts are being used to trash one player and praise another who had pretty similar results. They both played poorly, but their WRs were worse than both of them, the O-line was awful, they couldn't and didn't run and the defense was a sieve. The entire team around both QBs was a constant. They performed the same start to finish. The QBs were the only variable on the Bills side and neither had any success. What I'm also saying is the minute edge that Allen had in production should be considered with respect that the Ravens had their defensive stars on the sidelines. I'm super confused how one guy was trash and the other "must absolutely start" based off the same results. No, Allen threw 5-6 very good passes and Nate threw none. I don't know the math but it's about 872,700% better. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Well it's on youtube and the options menu lets you slow down to quarter speed. Are you talking about the ball that Benjamin muffed that was perfectly thrown? I don’t need to slow that down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: What I'm trying to say is that there's a really strange double standard going on here where the same facts are being used to trash one player and praise another who had pretty similar results. They both played poorly, but their WRs were worse than both of them, the O-line was awful, they couldn't and didn't run and the defense was a sieve. The entire team around both QBs was a constant. They performed the same start to finish. The QBs were the only variable on the Bills side and neither had any success. What I'm also saying is the minute edge that Allen had in production should be considered with respect that the Ravens had their defensive stars on the sidelines. I'm super confused how one guy was trash and the other "must absolutely start" based off the same results. So what you're missing is one guy moved the ball down the field and the other didn't? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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