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Cohen's Plea Deal and its Implications for Trump


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"Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of tax evasion; one count of making false statements to a financial institution; one count of willfully causing an unlawful corporation contribution; and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-cohen-plea-deal-details-today-2018-08-21/

 

Putting this here because it's glomming up the other thread about Manafort's First Trial in which he was found guilty of fraud, etc for crimes he committed dating from 2011 through 2014 which is before he ever had a relationship with Trump. 

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3 minutes ago, Nanker said:

"Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of tax evasion; one count of making false statements to a financial institution; one count of willfully causing an unlawful corporation contribution; and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-cohen-plea-deal-details-today-2018-08-21/

 

Putting this here because it's glomming up the other thread about Manafort's First Trial in which he was found guilty of fraud, etc for crimes he committed dating from 2011 through 2014 which is before he ever had a relationship with Trump. 

He's been working with Trump for over a decade. 

 

If you saw Cohens lawyer on the networks last night, he is saying Cohen has the dirt and can't want to sing like a canary. Literally saying he wants to bury Trump. I'll find link 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/22/lanny-davis-michael-cohen-trump-russia-hacking-new-day-vpx.cnn

 

Lanny Davis, the attorney representing President Donald Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen, suggests that his client may have knowledge implicating Trump in Russia's alleged hacking of Democratic emails.

Source: CNN

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He's been working with Trump for over a decade. 

 

If you saw Cohens lawyer on the networks last night, he is saying Cohen has the dirt and can't want to sing like a canary. Literally saying he wants to bury Trump. I'll find link 

I think you seem to have a problem translating the english language to russian. 

Keep digging comrade.

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3 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Sorry...aren't we missing the part where Russia...helps Trump...and he is their toady?

 

I think instead the vodka is mixed with lemonade powder. It's called "Trump drizzle juice"

 

 

Aren't you missing the part that after two years of investigations into "russian collusion ", not one piece of evidence has been found? 

You can't say that about hillary though....

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Lol, ok. Next up to try to take Trump down!

 

This is laughable....

 

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If the accusations are true, Trump will have committed a crime, should be impeached and, after leaving office, prosecuted. The framers surely would agree that committing a crime in order to obtain the presidency falls in the category of “High Crimes & Misdemeanors.” This is not a prediction of what will occur, but what should follow from our constitutional system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/08/22/what-you-may-have-missed-in-the-cohen-plea/?utm_term=.0924507f8b57

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Election fraud of this type is a pretty small crime. She's trying to conflate this into more than it is. It's offensive, and it shows the "character" of the man, but this is not an impeachable offense. Democrats should use this for what it is, not what it's not. It's embarrassing when they do this. 

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2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

The president's fixer is going to talk. Cohen will be able to pull in witnesses, and provide documentary support. 

 

I don't know where this is going but isn't good for Trump. 

 

He already talked and the best he could offer was coping to a violation which they could juice up with spicy (and legally meaningless) language to control a news cycle for a few days. 

 

The he amount of "this time they got Trump" on display is hilarious. You'd think y'all would have learned your lessons by now to stop trusting the reporting of mindless partisans pushing a narrative... But nope.

 

 

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Just now, BeginnersMind said:

 

Election fraud of this type is a pretty small crime. She's trying to conflate this into more than it is. It's offensive, and it shows the "character" of the man, but this is not an impeachable offense. 

 

It's not even a criminal offense, but rather a civil offense.

 

And that's if Trump is even guilty, because his campaign was almost entirely self-funded.

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6 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Election fraud of this type is a pretty small crime. She's trying to conflate this into more than it is. It's offensive, and it shows the "character" of the man, but this is not an impeachable offense. Democrats should use this for what it is, not what it's not. It's embarrassing when they do this. 

He broke the law to get elected. No small crime at all. He is a law breaker. I'm sure you guys will try and minimize it all to hell, "Who cares about laws?" 

 

Would he have won if he wasn't shelling out hundreds of thousands of dollars in hush money? We can never say for sure, but we know Trump thought he couldn't, or he wouldn't have paid out that money. 

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Anyone who hires Lanny Davis as their attorney has no facts on his side but needs a filthy partisan to make up a bunchofshit.

Great evidence! 

 

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We will see.  For those of you trying to write this off as nothing against the president think again.  If Cohen and/or Manafort have material they can trade to provide evidence about whatever went on with the Russians, odds are they'll use it. 


As I keep saying, let the investigation run its course.

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22 minutes ago, westside said:

Aren't you missing the part that after two years of investigations into "russian collusion ", not one piece of evidence has been found? 

You can't say that about hillary though....

Lol, ok. Next up to try to take Trump down!

 

This is laughable....

 

I'm sorry...did I vividly hallucinate Trump himself saying that Don Jr. met with Russian intelligence in Trump tower, and that he knew about it but the information "wasn't good"

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/giuliani-trump-tower-meeting-was-originally-for-the-purpose-of-getting-information-about-clinton/ar-BBM7LgG

 

If you want to say that it didn't have an effect, and that Trump would have won anyway...fine. But come on, how much more evidence do you need that Trump is a lying con? He lied repeatedly about what the Russia meeting was about, his campaign manager has been convicted of bank and election fraud and his personal lawyer paid off prostitutes. 

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