Cohen's Plea Deal and its Implications for Trump

[Wagon Circler]

On 8/22/2018 at 10:32 AM, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

It's not even a criminal offense, but rather a civil offense.

 

And that's if Trump is even guilty, because his campaign was almost entirely self-funded.

Yeah the 15 million he got from Putin via the NRA doesn't count. Or the Kochs.

Edited August 24, 2018 by Wagon Circler

[Thurmal34]

1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

You forgot to call me a misogynist racist 

 

Why would I? Did you say something negative about women?

Pecker with complete immunity. Cohen about to spill to the SDNY. 

 

The best people. 

[Teddy KGB]

Just now, Thurmal34 said:

 

Why would I? Did you say something negative about women?

 

Because I’ve written you off as a clown after your remarks about the media suppression 

 

 

 

[Thurmal34]

Just now, Teddy KGB said:

 

Because I’ve written you off as a clown after your remarks about the media suppression 

 

 

 

 

And yet you reply. If you’ve written me off, don’t say another word. Just stop and let my buffoonery speak for itself.

 

 

[B-Man]

13 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said:

Yeah the 15 million he got from Putin via the NRA doesn't count. Or the Kochs.

 

 

Holey Moley, how do you type with that straight jacket on ?

 

Please say that you were trying to be funny.

 

[Thurmal34]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Holey Moley, how do you type with that straight jacket on ?

 

Please say that you were trying to be funny.

 

 

Keep telling us about the best people and the best economy (that’s been rising for the last 30 quarters).

 

Come on, tell us how we are all wrong and can’t think for ourselves! 

[Teddy KGB]

19 minutes ago, Thurmal34 said:

 

And yet you reply. If you’ve written me off, don’t say another word. Just stop and let my buffoonery speak for itself.

 

 

 

K, was checking to see if you really believed the media line you stated.   

 

Obviously you do.      Obviously you’re a shmuck. ??‍♂️

[Thurmal34]

2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

     Obviously you’re a shmuck. ??‍♂️

 

Thanks! If you believe it, it must be true. 

 

Bottom line - we have a president who cares more about himself than America. You pointed that out so thanks!

[Teddy KGB]

1 minute ago, Thurmal34 said:

 

Thanks! If you believe it, it must be true. 

 

Bottom line - we have a president who cares more about himself than America. You pointed that out so thanks!

 

You should thank him for winning.     We dodged a major bullet.   

 

 

[Thurmal34]

27 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

You should thank him for winning.     We dodged a major bullet.   

 

 

 

Right so we don’t care about moral life. 

 

What’s he been winning at?

[Teddy KGB]

9 minutes ago, Thurmal34 said:

 

Right so we don’t care about moral life. 

 

What’s he been winning at?

 

What hasn’t he been winning at ? 

 

Life is good for all out my way.      Everyone holds the door for each other and has a job. 

 

The cnn life you describe is fake news 

 

I’ll let you caterwaul and act like anything has changed besides all the kooks and the tears 

Edited August 24, 2018 by Teddy KGB

[Buffalo_Gal]

11 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

 

Maybe I’m wrong, but aren’t they actively working to suppress freedom of the press?

If you are saying the left, particularly the Democratic leadership and their handlers (big donators) are working to suppress free speech, you are absolutely correct.  ? Antifa and "shut up racist!" isn't out there to engage in a lively discussion. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

10 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

caterwaul

 

You'll be hearing from my copyright attorney

 

[B-Man]

The 'Echo Chamber' Isn't A Conspiracy Theory, It's A Fact

By David Harsanyi

 

 

The New Yorker’s new blockbuster piece exposing the 'echo chamber' conspiracy memo only helps prove the document's contention.

 

When I finally got to the end of a supposed blockbuster piece by the New Yorker’s Adam Entous and Ronan Farrow regarding a dark conspiracy theory that had been spreading within the Trump White House, I was struck by two things: 1) the innocuousness of the memo in question, and 2) how the basis of the memo was plainly true. The piece, in fact, goes a long way in substantiating the memo’s contention about the media, allowing former Obama administration officials and their allies to offer ludicrous claims without even a scintilla of journalistic skepticism.

 

To put the reporting in some perspective, the memo is 478 words long. Much of the short document is nothing more than names and titles. The breathless piece, more conspiratorial than the memo, contains 1,360 words of assumptions and misleading characterizations about the both the document and Obama officials.

 

Here is a taste: “Some of the same conspiracy theories expressed in the memo appear in internal documents from an Israeli private-intelligence firm that mounted a covert effort to collect damaging information about aides to President Obama who had advocated for the Iran deal,” claims the New Yorker.

For one thing, you don’t need an Israeli private-intelligence firm (in this case, the scary sounding and secretive “Black Cube”) to write a run-of-the-mill political oppo memo that could have been thrown together by anyone using public reports in less than an hour. This was my thought as I fruitlessly read the piece once again searching for these supposed conspiracy theories.

 

The unsigned memo alleges that the “communications infrastructure” of the Obama White House that was used to “sell Obamacare and the Iran Deal to the public” had been moved to the private sector. This is a circumstance known to be true to anyone who’s paid any attention to the news over the past two years. The memo also cites former Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes as “likely the brain behind this operation” and Colin Kahl, Vice-President Joe Biden’s former national-security adviser, as its “likely ops chief.” All this is “likely” true.

 

Rhodes and Kahl told the reporters that the “allegations” are false “and no such organization exists.” That’s nice. But the memo doesn’t say anything about being part of an official “organization,” it claims there is a “communications infrastructure” engaged in undermining the administration. People can work in concerted ways without being official members of SPECTRE.

 

So, a more useful question for Rhodes (and others) would have been: ‘Do you communicate with the former Obama officials named in the memo to plan and implement strategies intended to undercut the Trump administration’s foreign policy goals — especially on Iran? For instance, did you have a role in former Secretary of State John Kerry’s meeting with Iran’s foreign minister and other world leaders and diplomats to save the nuclear deal despite the official position of the U.S. government?  Do you engage in any other shadow diplomacy?’

 

Or perhaps they could have asked, ‘Do you, or do you know if other former Obama officials continue to leak intel they have gathered from allies still working in government to feed it to friendly reporters at mainstream media outlets? Do these reporters, at places like The Atlantic, NBC News and CNN, still regurgitate those politically motivated leaks willingly and without question, as you once claimed?’

 

Now, of course, NBC News’s Andrea Mitchell or The New York Times’ Max Fisher aren’t sitting down and plotting their pro-Iran talking points with former Obama officials; but in effect, it doesn’t matter. Both of them, and many other supposedly unbiased journalists, simultaneously parroted a litany of lies that Iran-deal proponents fed (or signaled) to them.

 

More at the link: http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/24/the-echo-chamber-isnt-a-conspiracy-theory-its-a-fact/#.W4AxQ-oHogw.twitter

[DC Tom]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Now, of course, NBC News’s Andrea Mitchell or The New York Times’ Max Fisher aren’t sitting down and plotting their pro-Iran talking points with former Obama officials

 

And why would they?  They've been parroting the official White House line well before Obama.  Hell, their biggest complaint about Bush 2 was that the White House wasn't giving them talking points, but was actually making them work for a living.  Realistically, they've been doing this since 1991 - Peter Arnett was one of the last to actively pursue a story on his own, staying in Baghdad to report from the Iraqi side of Desert Storm.

 

Since then, it's been increasingly just parroting official statements.  And parrots have no need for plotting.

 

Really, if the NYT wasn't so busy staring at their own navels and smelling their own farts, they'd see this.

[Wagon Circler]

On 8/22/2018 at 10:35 AM, 3rdnlng said:

Anyone who hires Lanny Davis as their attorney has no facts on his side but needs a filthy partisan to make up a bunchofshit.

As opposed to like,  Giuliani?

[Nanker]

Lanny Davis is a lawyer and lobbyist and political advisor.

Giuliani was a Federal Prosecutor who brought the Mob down in NYC, was mayor of our country's largest city, and was a stabilizing, uniting force in the wake of the 911 attacks.

 

Davis is just a political opportunist. Love how his "pro bono" work for Cohen suddenly has a Go Fund Me account. It should be a Go !@#$ Me account.

[B-Man]

Lanny Davis, Michael Cohen's lawyer, tells the Post on the record that he was saying things he did not know to be true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/attorney-for-michael-cohen-backs-away-from-confidence-that-cohen-has-information-about-trumps-knowledge-on-russian-efforts/2018/08/26/09d7f26e-a876-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html?utm_term=.54898e1de238

 

 

But, we got the latest Fake Trump slant out there anyway.

 

Great work everyone !

 

 

 

 

 

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[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

For the life of me, I don't understand how Rosenstein still has a job.